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  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,020
    Dj Qualls GIFs Tenor
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  • evenflow82
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    Dave A ftw.
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  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,851
    Nice compilation. Dang
  • dreamweaver
    dreamweaver New York Posts: 736
    edited October 2023
    McCready!
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  • demetrios
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    eboweddie said:
    https://youtu.be/QbluWPfg3_k?si=pbok9KetT_0Swxth


  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,794
    Pearl Jam - 8/14/93 {NEW Complete Pro-Shot SBD Concert} NEW SBD Audio & over 1,000 New Video Edits 


  • RS151862
    RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,726
    demetrios said:
    Pearl Jam - 8/14/93 {NEW Complete Pro-Shot SBD Concert} NEW SBD Audio & over 1,000 New Video Edits 


    I don’t get the point of this.. none of the audio is from Mudfest… why bother. 
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  • The Rock
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    RS151862 said:
    demetrios said:
    Pearl Jam - 8/14/93 {NEW Complete Pro-Shot SBD Concert} NEW SBD Audio & over 1,000 New Video Edits 


    I don’t get the point of this.. none of the audio is from Mudfest… why bother. 
    I've watched 30 mins or so and I have to say its pretty great. Th average fan watching wouldn't have a clue that the audio is from other shows. It's really well done. 

    It must have taken a long time to put this together. 
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  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,876
    Still don’t understand how Dave A didn’t get with another “big” band. He must truly be an asshole

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  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437
    edited November 2023
    mr bungle said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    93 has to be Ed at his grumpiest.  He just looks pissed the whole time lol.  
    Yep.  My first PJ show was the first of three Mercer arena shows in December of 93.  Eddie was SO intense/pissed the whole show.  I remember just having adrenalin running through me the entire show because of the bands energy.
    My 1st PJ shows ever were '93, and I was front row for 2 of them. Ed was intense but he didn't at all seem pissed at my 2 shows, though I agree he looks very testy in these clips. But also he'd been living with being "Eddie Vedder" and probably the most in demand human to meet or talk to or want to hang with or try to date for going on 2 years then, and that was probably stressful and exhausting as hell. He looks so much older here than a year earlier... But all that angst and frustration made for intense insane incredible f'in shows for sure!
  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437
    The Rock said:
    RS151862 said:
    demetrios said:
    Pearl Jam - 8/14/93 {NEW Complete Pro-Shot SBD Concert} NEW SBD Audio & over 1,000 New Video Edits 


    I don’t get the point of this.. none of the audio is from Mudfest… why bother. 
    I've watched 30 mins or so and I have to say its pretty great. Th average fan watching wouldn't have a clue that the audio is from other shows. It's really well done. 

    It must have taken a long time to put this together. 
    So the videos are all from one show, right? But the audio from a bunch of different '93 shows, is that how this was made? It mostly looks very very aligned, like it matches. 
  • The Rock
    The Rock Posts: 1,439
    JH6056 said:
    The Rock said:
    RS151862 said:
    demetrios said:
    Pearl Jam - 8/14/93 {NEW Complete Pro-Shot SBD Concert} NEW SBD Audio & over 1,000 New Video Edits 


    I don’t get the point of this.. none of the audio is from Mudfest… why bother. 
    I've watched 30 mins or so and I have to say its pretty great. Th average fan watching wouldn't have a clue that the audio is from other shows. It's really well done. 

    It must have taken a long time to put this together. 
    So the videos are all from one show, right? But the audio from a bunch of different '93 shows, is that how this was made? It mostly looks very very aligned, like it matches. 
    I think so, yeah. He's inserted some crowd shots from some of the pro-shot MTV footage from 1993 but everything else is the Mudfest show. 

    The audio is almost flawless, it matches very well. I'm impressed.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    nautical_disaster said:
    Classic show!

    To my Canadian friends (or anyone who might know) - the 1993 shows in Canada seem to list very small venues (Calgary, Edmonton, ect..) Does anyone know if these were warm up shows? Non ticketmaster venues only? I know the joke is that Canada discovers popular bands years later, but 1993 was peak pearl jam fandom no? 
    they were opening for Neil on that tour. Except Gimli. That was a 30,000 festival in bumfuck Manitoba. It was amazing. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mcgruff10 said:
    93 has to be Ed at his grumpiest.  He just looks pissed the whole time lol.  
    he was pretty drunk and fighting Manitoba Pterodactyls (mosquitos) all night. my boss at the time met them in their trailer and he mentioned that eddie seemed really pissy then too. (same guy got me backstage at Soundgarden 3 years later)
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  • goldrush
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    DM282158 said:
    Those early renditions of Animal were beyond intense
    My first PJ show was in 93 as well and they opened with Animal. Unreal way to start my live PJ journey (hard to believe it was 30 years ago!)
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  • Loujoe
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    93 has to be Ed at his grumpiest.  He just looks pissed the whole time lol.  
    he was pretty drunk and fighting Manitoba Pterodactyls (mosquitos) all night. my boss at the time met them in their trailer and he mentioned that eddie seemed really pissy then too. (same guy got me backstage at Soundgarden 3 years later)
    Inspired red mosquito perhaps. More details on backstage soundgarden please...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    Loujoe said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    93 has to be Ed at his grumpiest.  He just looks pissed the whole time lol.  
    he was pretty drunk and fighting Manitoba Pterodactyls (mosquitos) all night. my boss at the time met them in their trailer and he mentioned that eddie seemed really pissy then too. (same guy got me backstage at Soundgarden 3 years later)
    Inspired red mosquito perhaps. More details on backstage soundgarden please...
    nothing to really talk about. My boss was the caterer for the show. so we were down there pre-show and post-show. I saw Cornell walk by preshow, but he looked focused, so I was too intimidated to talk to him. 

    after the show, my buddy and I met Matt by an exit door as he was laughing his ass off watching Ben run around the parking lot drunk out of his mind, pissing off the roadies who were trying to move the tour busses around. chatted with matt for a good 20 minutes or so. he was super chill, just like talking to an old buddy I hadn't seen in a while. 
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  • demetrios
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    JH6056 said:
    The Rock said:
    RS151862 said:
    demetrios said:
    Pearl Jam - 8/14/93 {NEW Complete Pro-Shot SBD Concert} NEW SBD Audio & over 1,000 New Video Edits 


    I don’t get the point of this.. none of the audio is from Mudfest… why bother. 
    I've watched 30 mins or so and I have to say its pretty great. Th average fan watching wouldn't have a clue that the audio is from other shows. It's really well done. 

    It must have taken a long time to put this together. 
    So the videos are all from one show, right? But the audio from a bunch of different '93 shows, is that how this was made? It mostly looks very very aligned, like it matches. 

    Yes.

    Pearl Jam - 08/14/93 (Video)
    Gimli Motorsport Park
    Gimli, Manitoba - Canada
    Sunfest '93 (Mudfest)

    Set:
    00. Intro...
    01. Evenflow
    02. Why Go
    03. Deep
    04. Jeremy
    05. Animal
    06. Glorified G
    07. Daughter
    08. Go
    09. State of Love and Trust
    10. Garden
    11. Blood
    12. Alive
    13. Black
    14. Once
    15. Porch
    -------------------
    16. Indifference
    17. Sonic Reducer
    18. Rockin' in the Free World
    19. Baba O'Riley

    Run Time: 1:31:37

    When viewing on a larger screen the quality will improve if you reduce the brightness & contrast a bit.

    Audio Sources:
    Tracks 1,2,7,10,12,17 - Recorded 7/16/93 Rotterdam, HD
    Tracks 3,9,13,15,16 - Recorded 4/03/94 Atlanta, GA
    Tracks 4,6,8,11 - Recorded 11/05/93 Indio, CA
    Track 5 - Recorded 12/08/93 Seattle, WA
    Track 14 - Recorded 11/30/93 Las Vegas, NV
    Track 18 - Recorded 12/08/93 Seattle, WA & 6/18/92 Zurich, CH
    Track 19 - Recorded 9/02/92 Los Angeles, CA (short guitar solo is from 8/10/00 FL.)

    My original purpose for this project was to upgrade the audio quality. The original audio source from the video was from one of the video camera microphones. The audio mix was thick and dull, and you can't hear Mike's guitar well at all in most areas. Ed’s vocals are also very muffled and there is too much natural reverb. On the other hand, the video footage was great, and contains 3 different professional camera angles. Even with this great video footage, because of the poor-quality audio, I only watch this video occasionally anymore.

     So, I figured I would try a song or two to see if matching the audio from a different show would work with this footage. I was very excited with how it was coming out, so I decided to do the entire concert. It then took on a life of its own, and thus began an extensive process of over 1,000 video edits, video remastering and the most extensive audio work I have attempted to date. Below is a description of the process.

    For the purists that feel this is not “authentic”or "live" because the video and audio are not from the same show, I completely understand, and this is not for you. Feel free not to watch, or complain.

     The goal is to match the newly edited video to the new audio source as closely as possible. As tight as Pearl Jam were in this era. it would still be impossible to match it up perfectly. That’s when we have to get a little creative. I added edits of video footage to cover up minor speed / tempo changes from the original. Before the footage starts to go out of sync, I would add in some crowd footage, and then take the next video clip and pull it or push it to match up. My goal is to try not to notice the changes at all when I watch it back.

    Audio Notes:
    I started with the 6 SBD audio sources from the Vs. 93/94' Tours. For the last song I had to widen the net and use the Pre-FM source from Zurich 6/18/1992, and fill in the short guitar solo from 8/10/00 WPB, FL.
    There were several factors in selecting which audio sources were chosen. (Performance quality, Performance similarities, Speed/Tempo, Sound Quality etc...)
    My preference was to leave the audio as is , and do the more extensive editing to the video. On certain tracks audio edits were still needed.
    All of the audio was spectral-analyzed and adjusted accordingly, to create similar EQ settings, and make the songs from different shows sound as similar to each other as possible. The volume and EQ was adjusted to create one listening tone & volume for the entire concert.
    The in between song talking, and banter remains included from the original video source. Most audio tracks are in their originally recorded tempo and pitch. The audio speed and pitch needed to be adjusted in Alive, Once, and Rockin' in the Free World, and cuts were made to Jeremy, Daughter, Garden, Porch, and Rockin’ in the Free World.

    Video Notes:
    All video footage was remastered and upconverted to HD. There are adjustments to contrast, brightness, color, tint, denoise filters, smoothing filters, and deblocking filters. In addition to editing the video extensively to match the different audio performances, there are reused parts of the concert to help capture parts of the show when the cameramen didn't follow the music. Doing it perfectly for the entire concert would not be possible. If you spend your time playing detective, you will pick up on imperfections, or inconsistencies, but if you sit back relax and enjoy, they should not be very noticeable at all. I literally went frame by frame trying to make the best choices possible for each situation with the footage available. This process for the most part is subjective, so I tried to balance the choices I made to improve the overall viewing experience.

    This was a complicated project, but there was a large amount of great material to work with. I don’t even want to admit how many hours I put into this, but I enjoyed every minute of it. I feel that the overall improvement from the original is substantial, and I am extremely excited about how it came out.

    I hope you enjoy!
    Steve D.

  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437
    Super cool, thank you again!
  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715


    The goal is to match the newly edited video to the new audio source as closely as possible. As tight as Pearl Jam were in this era. it would still be impossible to match it up perfectly. That’s when we have to get a little creative. I added edits of video footage to cover up minor speed / tempo changes from the original. Before the footage starts to go out of sync, I would add in some crowd footage, and then take the next video clip and pull it or push it to match up. My goal is to try not to notice the changes at all when I watch it back.

    I watched and enjoyed it, and I had no idea the audio was not from the show. Thanks and nice work!

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