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StardogChamp79StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,022
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That is my question! It is more just for discussion and hearing others’ opinions. I have heard from some record aficionados that you should leave a record sealed as it is worth more. I have also heard that the plastic wrap/ shrink wrap never stops shrinking, thus creating spine splits, etc. So those babies should be opened up. I use poly sleeves to store all my records to keep them happy! Personally, I bought the vinyl to spin it, so keeping it on wraps is of no interest to me. What are everyone else’s thoughts?

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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,903
    Find out the value of the album sealed. 
    Find out the value of the album unsealed
    Take the delta and put that in the stock market
    Rip open and spin away
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  • StardogChamp79StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,022
    mookeywrench said:
    Find out the value of the album sealed. 
    Find out the value of the album unsealed
    Take the delta and put that in the stock market
    Rip open and spin away
    I love your mindset!
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Posts: 1,789
    edited June 2023
    All pJ shit will be worthless soon. Open it or sell it
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  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,911
    Foriginal Sin said:
    All pJ shit will be worthless soon. Open it or sell it

    Not necessarily. Some Elvis records are still top dollar.
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  • GibsonGibson Posts: 2,646
    I don't believe there's any songs called "Keep the Records Sealed."
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,357
    Gibson said:
    I don't believe there's any songs called "Keep the Records Sealed."
    Buy the record and download the songs.  Problem solved.

    Or just buy opened vinyl.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,454
    To each, their own....but I open everything and enjoy it.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,592
    Buy 2 copies. One to seal and one to play.
  • LoujoeLoujoe Posts: 9,489
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Foriginal Sin said:
    All pJ shit will be worthless soon. Open it or sell it

    Not necessarily. Some Elvis records are still top dollar.
    Sure. But I see the collectability value tank as everything is reissued. Vaults/sevens/other one offs may increase bc they most likely wont be reissued.

    Just my dumb opinion.

    I've picked up old records that were sealed and when I cracked them opened they were like new. Depends on humidity/how it's stored. 
  • StardogChamp79StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,022
    demetrios said:
    Buy 2 copies. One to seal and one to play.
    This is a dangerous road to go down...
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,931
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Foriginal Sin said:
    All pJ shit will be worthless soon. Open it or sell it

    Not necessarily. Some Elvis records are still top dollar.
    Of course, comparing PJ to Elvis from a cultural significance standpoint is like comparing apples to blue whales.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,531
    Poncier said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Foriginal Sin said:
    All pJ shit will be worthless soon. Open it or sell it

    Not necessarily. Some Elvis records are still top dollar.
    Of course, comparing PJ to Elvis from a cultural significance standpoint is like comparing apples to blue whales.
    Elvis is on a steady decline though. 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,931
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Poncier said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Foriginal Sin said:
    All pJ shit will be worthless soon. Open it or sell it

    Not necessarily. Some Elvis records are still top dollar.
    Of course, comparing PJ to Elvis from a cultural significance standpoint is like comparing apples to blue whales.
    Elvis is on a steady decline though. 
    He's getting fatter by the day.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,592
    StardogChamp79 said:
    demetrios said:
    Buy 2 copies. One to seal and one to play.
    This is a dangerous road to go down...

    Oh, it is. It very much is.
  • JT167846JT167846 Posts: 937
    If you want an investment buy sealed records of bands you don't like. That way you don't give a monkey's when you sell them 😂
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Posts: 1,789
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Foriginal Sin said:
    All pJ shit will be worthless soon. Open it or sell it

    Not necessarily. Some Elvis records are still top dollar.
    Pearl Jam is not Elvis, never will be, not even comparable in terms of popularity and cultural influence 
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  • Naked JohnNaked John Posts: 323
    Foriginal Sin said:
    All pJ shit will be worthless soon. Open it or sell it
    Yes, Sir.
  • Naked JohnNaked John Posts: 323
    demetrios said:
    Buy 2 copies. One to seal and one to play.
    demetrios said:
    Buy 2 copies. One to seal and one to play.
    demetrios said:
    Buy 2 copies. One to seal and one to play.

    This.
  • goldrushgoldrush Posts: 7,542
    I’ve never understood why people keep records sealed. I’m sure they look very nice on the shelf, but they don’t sound as good inside the wrap!

    Open them up, drop the needle, read the liner notes, enjoy the experience.
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  • mrk2mrk2 Posts: 2,067
    PJ vinyl sounds like ass anyway. Keep em sealed and stream lossless.
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  • apirk72apirk72 Posts: 503
    Personally If I was going to spend some coin on a record I would rather know it was taken care of rather then sealed.  If I was buying online from two people claiming they had a mint sealed and an NM+ where they kept the record outside the sleeve and will ship it that way I would take the NM+ everyday.  I would at least know the record is fine and I would also know that they would ship it to me in the best way to avoid damage, plus if we are being honest mint records rarely exist and are even rarer among old records still wrapped in tight plastic.  If you explain how you store them, why, and how you'll ship it you will probably be better off then having a "mint" sealed record because other record collectors would know they are buying from an actual record collector.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    edited June 2023
    Unless you have multiple copies for the sole purpose of eventually selling the sealed ones to make a profit, I don't see the point in ever keeping a record sealed. Otherwise, wouldn't you want to play it? 
    FWIW, while I have read about this idea that plastic wrap can eventually warp a record, I have never bought a sealed older album that was warped at all.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    Foriginal Sin said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Foriginal Sin said:
    All pJ shit will be worthless soon. Open it or sell it

    Not necessarily. Some Elvis records are still top dollar.
    Pearl Jam is not Elvis, never will be, not even comparable in terms of popularity and cultural influence 

    That doesn't matter in most cases, because there were usually so many Elvis albums made that most of them are barely worth anything. Most PJ albums had small runs and will therefore retain value better.
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,050
    I feel that if you own a turntable then you should open them, if you don’t then keep them sealed
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 23,308
    LukinFan said:
    I feel that if you own a turntable then you should open them, if you don’t then keep them sealed
    Bingo. 
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,592
    JT167846 said:
    If you want an investment buy sealed records of bands you don't like. That way you don't give a monkey's when you sell them 😂

    Lol
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