"Dress sneakers" in the Oval Office: Yea or Nay?

brianlux

Apparently the "Congressional Sneaker Caucus" is cool with it:

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4018786-bipartisan-sneaker-caucus-unequivocally-supports-mccarthy-jeffriess-oval-office-shoe-choices/

Some examples in case you think I'm making this sh*t up:

F Me In The Brain

Who cares what they wear on their feet?  Some of those are far nicer than so called dress shoes.
They should be more concerned about sending representatives/soles with souls. 

Signed,
Someone with thousands and thousands of dollars of suits in his closet....who likes comfortable kicks.

brianlux

F Me In The Brain said:

Who cares what they wear on their feet?  Some of those are far nicer than so called dress shoes.
They should be more concerned about sending representatives/soles with souls. 

Signed,
Someone with thousands and thousands of dollars of suits in his closet....who likes comfortable kicks.

I care.

My sole objection (inserts exclamation point) is that casual dress by our leaders indicates a lack of seriousness about their position.  Their tongues move and make noise but when they presume a casual stance they merely treating their constituents as heels.  All the while their arch disregard for formality only makes it easier for them to grind us under there... yeah...

Etc.  Ain't no big deal, and of course there are way bigger issues to think about, but to me this whole sneaker in the Oval Office thing is tacky and just as low-brow as Sinema wearing a jeans jacket to vote on an issue in the Senate.  Really?  Are we really supposed to take these lawmakers seriously?  Hardly.

F Me In The Brain

Nice footwork 

Could not disagree more on the conclusion you come to....but, to each their own.

(Jeans jackets may represent poor taste- we can agree on that, though. )  

mickeyrat

https://apnews.com/article/debt-ceiling-deal-food-aid-student-loans-3c284b01d95f8e193bca8d873386400e

Spiritual_Chaos

brianlux said:

Are these considered sneakers?

Spiritual_Chaos

brianlux said:

Etc.  Ain't no big deal, and of course there are way bigger issues to think about, but to me this whole sneaker in the Oval Office thing is tacky and just as low-brow as Sinema wearing a jeans jacket to vote on an issue in the Senate.  Really?  Are we really supposed to take these lawmakers seriously?  Hardly.

Is this a joke?

jwhjr17

I could care less what they wear.  Quite honestly if they wore clown shoes at least they'd be authentic.

nicknyr15

jwhjr17 said:

I could care less what they wear.  Quite honestly if they wore clown shoes at least they'd be authentic.

Ha! Excellent post. 

F Me In The Brain

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Are these considered sneakers?

I don't think most people consider them sneakers 

F Me In The Brain

jwhjr17 said:

I could care less what they wear.  Quite honestly if they wore clown shoes at least they'd be authentic.

Couldn't care less?
Feel the same.
Clown shoes would be a nice touch

Lerxst1992

Wow Bri surprised you’re not 100% on board with the casual look. Unfortunately I have to attend a funeral this week and I don’t think I own a suit anymore. Oh well..I have black sneakers that look like shoes, it’ll have to do

brianlux

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Are these considered sneakers?

Yes

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Etc.  Ain't no big deal, and of course there are way bigger issues to think about, but to me this whole sneaker in the Oval Office thing is tacky and just as low-brow as Sinema wearing a jeans jacket to vote on an issue in the Senate.  Really?  Are we really supposed to take these lawmakers seriously?  Hardly.

Is this a joke?

A joke?  No, certainly not.

jwhjr17 said:

I could care less what they wear.  Quite honestly if they wore clown shoes at least they'd be authentic.

Haha!  Well said.  "We're all bozos on this bus" does, sadly seem like an appropriate epithet for much of congress today.

Lerxst1992 said:

Wow Bri surprised you’re not 100% on board with the casual look. Unfortunately I have to attend a funeral this week and I don’t think I own a suit anymore. Oh well..I have black sneakers that look like shoes, it’ll have to do

In my own every day life, I'm totally Mr. Casual dress.  In the winter it's, jeans, skate shoes, t-shirt layered with flannel or corduroy shirt, jacket.  In the summer, lose the outer layers. 
But were talking about people who represent us and when they meet in the oval office or in the Senate chamber, I would think they would want to look professional at that level.  Federal government is not a casual business.  It serious stuff and I don't appreciate these lawmakers taking cavalier, casual approach to what they do.  To me, it's just one more sign that these people don't take their job seriously.

And by the way, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. You're going, that shows you care and that counts the most.

tempo_n_groove

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Are these considered sneakers?

That's a dress show, not a sneaker.

tempo_n_groove

The fashion gurus are making high quality dress "sneakers" though you won't hear them called that.

The brown leather upper with laces and a white or gum sole is considered accepted and fashionable nowadays.

I stopped wearing dress shoes 10 years ago.  I wear a nice pair of Jordans now.

Spiritual_Chaos

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Are these considered sneakers?

That's a dress show, 

tempo_n_groove

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Are these considered sneakers?

That's a dress show, 

hahahaha!  shoe.

Wheres Shannon Hoon and Weiland photos?

James?

jwhjr17

F Me In The Brain said:

jwhjr17 said:

I could care less what they wear.  Quite honestly if they wore clown shoes at least they'd be authentic.

Couldn't care less?
Feel the same.
Clown shoes would be a nice touch

Ha yes!  Couldn't  

Lerxst1992

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Are these considered sneakers?

Yes

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Etc.  Ain't no big deal, and of course there are way bigger issues to think about, but to me this whole sneaker in the Oval Office thing is tacky and just as low-brow as Sinema wearing a jeans jacket to vote on an issue in the Senate.  Really?  Are we really supposed to take these lawmakers seriously?  Hardly.

Is this a joke?

A joke?  No, certainly not.

jwhjr17 said:

I could care less what they wear.  Quite honestly if they wore clown shoes at least they'd be authentic.

Haha!  Well said.  "We're all bozos on this bus" does, sadly seem like an appropriate epithet for much of congress today.

Lerxst1992 said:

Wow Bri surprised you’re not 100% on board with the casual look. Unfortunately I have to attend a funeral this week and I don’t think I own a suit anymore. Oh well..I have black sneakers that look like shoes, it’ll have to do

In my own every day life, I'm totally Mr. Casual dress.  In the winter it's, jeans, skate shoes, t-shirt layered with flannel or corduroy shirt, jacket.  In the summer, lose the outer layers. 
But were talking about people who represent us and when they meet in the oval office or in the Senate chamber, I would think they would want to look professional at that level.  Federal government is not a casual business.  It serious stuff and I don't appreciate these lawmakers taking cavalier, casual approach to what they do.  To me, it's just one more sign that these people don't take their job seriously.

And by the way, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. You're going, that shows you care and that counts the most.

Thanks Bri, let's keep on rocking on.

OnWis97

Yea! And while they're at it, allow jeans jackets with sparklies for women.

I'm noticing sneakers with khakis a lot more in the professional world over the last two years than ever before. I personally wouldn't do it because I can't pull it off (at least I'd feel self-conscious about it) but I legitimately could care less if others do it, including legislators, Biden, Trump, Putin, or Elon.

Kat

I would like to see them all dress appropriately and by that I mean, really dress up. They are there to do serious business and it's just possible it would help them to remember that if they look serious - and they might even try to feel it and seriously do the work. Gym attire doesn't inspire confidence...at least in me.  It might be just me though. This excludes sports figures. 

F Me In The Brain

Have you seen these types of shoes?  Nobody would wear them to the gym.
(Actually, it would be funny to see someone wearing these like a pair of Nikes.)

I've been saying for years that women should be wearing sneakers or at least normal shoes vs. Those torture device looking high heeled shoes.  (Of course, if they want to wear them and are comfortable,  more power to them.)

HughFreakingDillon

I have no issue with the "business casual" look. many executives at very big companies are taking on that type of look. I think it looks kind of "actionable wear". 

tempo_n_groove

https://www.menswearhouse.com/p/cole-haan-zerogrand-wingtip-oxfords-tan-41FX05

cincybearcat

Yea! And while they're at it, allow jeans jackets with sparklies for women.

Do people honestly care if they wear comfortable nice looking shoes just cause they don't meet some standard of dress shoes from the 50's?

brianlux

cincybearcat said:

Do people honestly care if they wear comfortable nice looking shoes just cause they don't meet some standard of dress shoes from the 50's?

I doubt most people care. 

This is the 2020's and their are dress shoes that are not sneakers but that are comfortable, unlike the foot-torture shoes of the 50's.

mickeyrat

would it be fair to say the party leaders of the house are on their feet alot and do a fair amount of walking?

would you have noticed if the soles had been a matching color?

brianlux

Kat said:

I would like to see them all dress appropriately and by that I mean, really dress up. They are there to do serious business and it's just possible it would help them to remember that if they look serious - and they might even try to feel it and seriously do the work. Gym attire doesn't inspire confidence...at least in me.  It might be just me though. This excludes sports figures. 

Exactly how I feel, Kat. 

I just can't take people seriously if they are not taking the job seriously.  I would feel the same way of a fire fighter were wearing a Brooks Brother suit  or if a surgeon was wearing Grateful Dead t-shirt while trying to save my life.

mickeyrat said:

would it be fair to say the party leaders of the house are on their feet alot and do a fair amount of walking?

would you have noticed if the soles had been a matching color?

I don't have any idea how much walking Senators and Representatives do but when meeting in the oval office with the President, I would expect them to dress appropriately.

mickeyrat

brianlux said:

Kat said:

I would like to see them all dress appropriately and by that I mean, really dress up. They are there to do serious business and it's just possible it would help them to remember that if they look serious - and they might even try to feel it and seriously do the work. Gym attire doesn't inspire confidence...at least in me.  It might be just me though. This excludes sports figures. 

Exactly how I feel, Kat. 

I just can't take people seriously if they are not taking the job seriously.  I would feel the same way of a fire fighter were wearing a Brooks Brother suit  or if a surgeon was wearing Grateful Dead t-shirt while trying to save my life.

mickeyrat said:

would it be fair to say the party leaders of the house are on their feet alot and do a fair amount of walking?

would you have noticed if the soles had been a matching color?

I don't have any idea how much walking Senators and Representatives do but when meeting in the oval office with the President, I would expect them to dress appropriately.

both were in suit and tie.

cincybearcat

Yea! And while they're at it, allow jeans jackets with sparklies for women.

Man all this talk about what people wear actually pisses me off.  

Serious business means you have to wear certain clothes?  I suppose we all have our lines on what is nice enough, but man this just all seems so petty.  It's got some serious "Get off my lawn" vibes.

Hobbes

Is this the new tan suit?