2023 - Noblesville - Fan to Fan drops
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 We should test this with some Lawn tixPJNB said:
 So what you are saying is if I go cart something in STP night 1 that has not sold and has been there for awhile, and you come in 30 seconds later and try to purchase the same ticket you think it will give you an error? I do not think that will happen. I think the sale will go through on your end.chukdotcom said:
 That has not been my experience at all. I have bought at least 50 F2F tickets since the 2020 F5 days.SHZA said:
 When standard tickets go to a cart, anyone else who tries to cart the tickets gets an error message "sorry another fan beat you" and can't even get to the checkout page. If that's how F2F works as well, why wouldn't the same thing happen?chukdotcom said:
 Yes, they were F2F. I think the issue here is that everyone is fast to get to the checkout page. They then (wrongly) assume that they didn't get them because they weren't fast enough to check out. The reality is (imo) that they actually weren't fast enough to GET to the check out page, and there is nothing they could do about it.SHZA said:
 I've never heard of anyone else leisurely going through the checkout process and actually scoring on F2F. Are you sure they weren't standard tickets (which have a timer)?chukdotcom said:
 I'm not 100% sure, but I am 95% sure. I have missed out on SOOO many tickets that I had in my cart. Not just this tour, but prior ones. I know how fast they go, and there is zero chance these pavilions would have survived the minutes I had them on my phone. Sure, could have been some weird fluke, but I tend to think not.sfrduder said:
 Not sure if this is true. I think you just got luckychukdotcom said:Not sure if this was covered previously, but if you get to the checkout page and you are the one that has the tickets "locked" you will get them regardless of how fast you are on that page. My proof:
 Saw a pair of F2F tickets. Had both my phone and laptop going. Both were on checkout page. Tried to checkout with laptop. Got the error occurred message. Figured I had missed out yet again. After more than a minute, realized I still had checkout page open on phone. Put in my CC, etc and was able to checkout and got the tickets. This was well after I got the error on my laptop.
 I have had at least a dozen Noblesville tickets in my cart that I couldn't check out with. I have always been very fast to enter CC etc. I am telling you it was a good 2 minutes before I checked out on my phone. I had already been complaining to my wife that I missed again. It was only out of frustration that I even bothered to complete it on my phone.
 My qualifications for the above: computer programmer.“Another fan beat you to it” is when you aren’t even close. The ticket has been bought already. Multiple people can get to the cart page until it’s bought. But only one of them is able to check out. And it doesn’t have to do with how fast you check out. That’s my hill and I’m willing to die on it…
 you will see the “another fan” if you randomly check the page and a ticket looks available. The cart ones happen when you see the tickets pop up between refreshes. That means you are close. But only the first person will lock the ticket. If that person abandons the cart then someone else may be enable to check out.
 Edit: I am not saying we actually do this as the risk of eating tickets would not be worth the trial imo.0
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 Something like that would work for sure since it would be a guarantee sell. Except it would have to be at a slow time where you could guarantee you were the first to cart and the second person coming in later to actually purchase would have no competition either.NewfieintheUSA said:
 We should test this with some Lawn tixPJNB said:
 So what you are saying is if I go cart something in STP night 1 that has not sold and has been there for awhile, and you come in 30 seconds later and try to purchase the same ticket you think it will give you an error? I do not think that will happen. I think the sale will go through on your end.chukdotcom said:
 That has not been my experience at all. I have bought at least 50 F2F tickets since the 2020 F5 days.SHZA said:
 When standard tickets go to a cart, anyone else who tries to cart the tickets gets an error message "sorry another fan beat you" and can't even get to the checkout page. If that's how F2F works as well, why wouldn't the same thing happen?chukdotcom said:
 Yes, they were F2F. I think the issue here is that everyone is fast to get to the checkout page. They then (wrongly) assume that they didn't get them because they weren't fast enough to check out. The reality is (imo) that they actually weren't fast enough to GET to the check out page, and there is nothing they could do about it.SHZA said:
 I've never heard of anyone else leisurely going through the checkout process and actually scoring on F2F. Are you sure they weren't standard tickets (which have a timer)?chukdotcom said:
 I'm not 100% sure, but I am 95% sure. I have missed out on SOOO many tickets that I had in my cart. Not just this tour, but prior ones. I know how fast they go, and there is zero chance these pavilions would have survived the minutes I had them on my phone. Sure, could have been some weird fluke, but I tend to think not.sfrduder said:
 Not sure if this is true. I think you just got luckychukdotcom said:Not sure if this was covered previously, but if you get to the checkout page and you are the one that has the tickets "locked" you will get them regardless of how fast you are on that page. My proof:
 Saw a pair of F2F tickets. Had both my phone and laptop going. Both were on checkout page. Tried to checkout with laptop. Got the error occurred message. Figured I had missed out yet again. After more than a minute, realized I still had checkout page open on phone. Put in my CC, etc and was able to checkout and got the tickets. This was well after I got the error on my laptop.
 I have had at least a dozen Noblesville tickets in my cart that I couldn't check out with. I have always been very fast to enter CC etc. I am telling you it was a good 2 minutes before I checked out on my phone. I had already been complaining to my wife that I missed again. It was only out of frustration that I even bothered to complete it on my phone.
 My qualifications for the above: computer programmer.“Another fan beat you to it” is when you aren’t even close. The ticket has been bought already. Multiple people can get to the cart page until it’s bought. But only one of them is able to check out. And it doesn’t have to do with how fast you check out. That’s my hill and I’m willing to die on it…
 you will see the “another fan” if you randomly check the page and a ticket looks available. The cart ones happen when you see the tickets pop up between refreshes. That means you are close. But only the first person will lock the ticket. If that person abandons the cart then someone else may be enable to check out.
 Edit: I am not saying we actually do this as the risk of eating tickets would not be worth the trial imo.0
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 The other test could be to wait 30 seconds or more after carting at a busy time and see if you still get the tickets when finishing checkout, understanding that you may not have been the first to cart, but if you are able to complete, it supports this theoryPJNB said:
 Something like that would work for sure since it would be a guarantee sell. Except it would have to be at a slow time where you could guarantee you were the first to cart and the second person coming in later to actually purchase would have no competition either.NewfieintheUSA said:
 We should test this with some Lawn tixPJNB said:
 So what you are saying is if I go cart something in STP night 1 that has not sold and has been there for awhile, and you come in 30 seconds later and try to purchase the same ticket you think it will give you an error? I do not think that will happen. I think the sale will go through on your end.chukdotcom said:
 That has not been my experience at all. I have bought at least 50 F2F tickets since the 2020 F5 days.SHZA said:
 When standard tickets go to a cart, anyone else who tries to cart the tickets gets an error message "sorry another fan beat you" and can't even get to the checkout page. If that's how F2F works as well, why wouldn't the same thing happen?chukdotcom said:
 Yes, they were F2F. I think the issue here is that everyone is fast to get to the checkout page. They then (wrongly) assume that they didn't get them because they weren't fast enough to check out. The reality is (imo) that they actually weren't fast enough to GET to the check out page, and there is nothing they could do about it.SHZA said:
 I've never heard of anyone else leisurely going through the checkout process and actually scoring on F2F. Are you sure they weren't standard tickets (which have a timer)?chukdotcom said:
 I'm not 100% sure, but I am 95% sure. I have missed out on SOOO many tickets that I had in my cart. Not just this tour, but prior ones. I know how fast they go, and there is zero chance these pavilions would have survived the minutes I had them on my phone. Sure, could have been some weird fluke, but I tend to think not.sfrduder said:
 Not sure if this is true. I think you just got luckychukdotcom said:Not sure if this was covered previously, but if you get to the checkout page and you are the one that has the tickets "locked" you will get them regardless of how fast you are on that page. My proof:
 Saw a pair of F2F tickets. Had both my phone and laptop going. Both were on checkout page. Tried to checkout with laptop. Got the error occurred message. Figured I had missed out yet again. After more than a minute, realized I still had checkout page open on phone. Put in my CC, etc and was able to checkout and got the tickets. This was well after I got the error on my laptop.
 I have had at least a dozen Noblesville tickets in my cart that I couldn't check out with. I have always been very fast to enter CC etc. I am telling you it was a good 2 minutes before I checked out on my phone. I had already been complaining to my wife that I missed again. It was only out of frustration that I even bothered to complete it on my phone.
 My qualifications for the above: computer programmer.“Another fan beat you to it” is when you aren’t even close. The ticket has been bought already. Multiple people can get to the cart page until it’s bought. But only one of them is able to check out. And it doesn’t have to do with how fast you check out. That’s my hill and I’m willing to die on it…
 you will see the “another fan” if you randomly check the page and a ticket looks available. The cart ones happen when you see the tickets pop up between refreshes. That means you are close. But only the first person will lock the ticket. If that person abandons the cart then someone else may be enable to check out.
 Edit: I am not saying we actually do this as the risk of eating tickets would not be worth the trial imo.0
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 Maybe thats whats going with that single lawn right now everyone is getting an error on. Carted for hours lolNewfieintheUSA said:
 The other test could be to wait 30 seconds or more after carting at a busy time and see if you still get the tickets when finishing checkout, understanding that you may not have been the first to cart, but if you are able to complete, it supports this theoryPJNB said:
 Something like that would work for sure since it would be a guarantee sell. Except it would have to be at a slow time where you could guarantee you were the first to cart and the second person coming in later to actually purchase would have no competition either.NewfieintheUSA said:
 We should test this with some Lawn tixPJNB said:
 So what you are saying is if I go cart something in STP night 1 that has not sold and has been there for awhile, and you come in 30 seconds later and try to purchase the same ticket you think it will give you an error? I do not think that will happen. I think the sale will go through on your end.chukdotcom said:
 That has not been my experience at all. I have bought at least 50 F2F tickets since the 2020 F5 days.SHZA said:
 When standard tickets go to a cart, anyone else who tries to cart the tickets gets an error message "sorry another fan beat you" and can't even get to the checkout page. If that's how F2F works as well, why wouldn't the same thing happen?chukdotcom said:
 Yes, they were F2F. I think the issue here is that everyone is fast to get to the checkout page. They then (wrongly) assume that they didn't get them because they weren't fast enough to check out. The reality is (imo) that they actually weren't fast enough to GET to the check out page, and there is nothing they could do about it.SHZA said:
 I've never heard of anyone else leisurely going through the checkout process and actually scoring on F2F. Are you sure they weren't standard tickets (which have a timer)?chukdotcom said:
 I'm not 100% sure, but I am 95% sure. I have missed out on SOOO many tickets that I had in my cart. Not just this tour, but prior ones. I know how fast they go, and there is zero chance these pavilions would have survived the minutes I had them on my phone. Sure, could have been some weird fluke, but I tend to think not.sfrduder said:
 Not sure if this is true. I think you just got luckychukdotcom said:Not sure if this was covered previously, but if you get to the checkout page and you are the one that has the tickets "locked" you will get them regardless of how fast you are on that page. My proof:
 Saw a pair of F2F tickets. Had both my phone and laptop going. Both were on checkout page. Tried to checkout with laptop. Got the error occurred message. Figured I had missed out yet again. After more than a minute, realized I still had checkout page open on phone. Put in my CC, etc and was able to checkout and got the tickets. This was well after I got the error on my laptop.
 I have had at least a dozen Noblesville tickets in my cart that I couldn't check out with. I have always been very fast to enter CC etc. I am telling you it was a good 2 minutes before I checked out on my phone. I had already been complaining to my wife that I missed again. It was only out of frustration that I even bothered to complete it on my phone.
 My qualifications for the above: computer programmer.“Another fan beat you to it” is when you aren’t even close. The ticket has been bought already. Multiple people can get to the cart page until it’s bought. But only one of them is able to check out. And it doesn’t have to do with how fast you check out. That’s my hill and I’m willing to die on it…
 you will see the “another fan” if you randomly check the page and a ticket looks available. The cart ones happen when you see the tickets pop up between refreshes. That means you are close. But only the first person will lock the ticket. If that person abandons the cart then someone else may be enable to check out.
 Edit: I am not saying we actually do this as the risk of eating tickets would not be worth the trial imo.0
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 LolPJNB said:
 Maybe thats whats going with that single lawn right now everyone is getting an error on. Carted for hours lolNewfieintheUSA said:
 The other test could be to wait 30 seconds or more after carting at a busy time and see if you still get the tickets when finishing checkout, understanding that you may not have been the first to cart, but if you are able to complete, it supports this theoryPJNB said:
 Something like that would work for sure since it would be a guarantee sell. Except it would have to be at a slow time where you could guarantee you were the first to cart and the second person coming in later to actually purchase would have no competition either.NewfieintheUSA said:
 We should test this with some Lawn tixPJNB said:
 So what you are saying is if I go cart something in STP night 1 that has not sold and has been there for awhile, and you come in 30 seconds later and try to purchase the same ticket you think it will give you an error? I do not think that will happen. I think the sale will go through on your end.chukdotcom said:
 That has not been my experience at all. I have bought at least 50 F2F tickets since the 2020 F5 days.SHZA said:
 When standard tickets go to a cart, anyone else who tries to cart the tickets gets an error message "sorry another fan beat you" and can't even get to the checkout page. If that's how F2F works as well, why wouldn't the same thing happen?chukdotcom said:
 Yes, they were F2F. I think the issue here is that everyone is fast to get to the checkout page. They then (wrongly) assume that they didn't get them because they weren't fast enough to check out. The reality is (imo) that they actually weren't fast enough to GET to the check out page, and there is nothing they could do about it.SHZA said:
 I've never heard of anyone else leisurely going through the checkout process and actually scoring on F2F. Are you sure they weren't standard tickets (which have a timer)?chukdotcom said:
 I'm not 100% sure, but I am 95% sure. I have missed out on SOOO many tickets that I had in my cart. Not just this tour, but prior ones. I know how fast they go, and there is zero chance these pavilions would have survived the minutes I had them on my phone. Sure, could have been some weird fluke, but I tend to think not.sfrduder said:
 Not sure if this is true. I think you just got luckychukdotcom said:Not sure if this was covered previously, but if you get to the checkout page and you are the one that has the tickets "locked" you will get them regardless of how fast you are on that page. My proof:
 Saw a pair of F2F tickets. Had both my phone and laptop going. Both were on checkout page. Tried to checkout with laptop. Got the error occurred message. Figured I had missed out yet again. After more than a minute, realized I still had checkout page open on phone. Put in my CC, etc and was able to checkout and got the tickets. This was well after I got the error on my laptop.
 I have had at least a dozen Noblesville tickets in my cart that I couldn't check out with. I have always been very fast to enter CC etc. I am telling you it was a good 2 minutes before I checked out on my phone. I had already been complaining to my wife that I missed again. It was only out of frustration that I even bothered to complete it on my phone.
 My qualifications for the above: computer programmer.“Another fan beat you to it” is when you aren’t even close. The ticket has been bought already. Multiple people can get to the cart page until it’s bought. But only one of them is able to check out. And it doesn’t have to do with how fast you check out. That’s my hill and I’m willing to die on it…
 you will see the “another fan” if you randomly check the page and a ticket looks available. The cart ones happen when you see the tickets pop up between refreshes. That means you are close. But only the first person will lock the ticket. If that person abandons the cart then someone else may be enable to check out.
 Edit: I am not saying we actually do this as the risk of eating tickets would not be worth the trial imo.0
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 Ghost tickets are a whole other thing…PJNB said:
 Maybe thats whats going with that single lawn right now everyone is getting an error on. Carted for hours lolNewfieintheUSA said:
 The other test could be to wait 30 seconds or more after carting at a busy time and see if you still get the tickets when finishing checkout, understanding that you may not have been the first to cart, but if you are able to complete, it supports this theoryPJNB said:
 Something like that would work for sure since it would be a guarantee sell. Except it would have to be at a slow time where you could guarantee you were the first to cart and the second person coming in later to actually purchase would have no competition either.NewfieintheUSA said:
 We should test this with some Lawn tixPJNB said:
 So what you are saying is if I go cart something in STP night 1 that has not sold and has been there for awhile, and you come in 30 seconds later and try to purchase the same ticket you think it will give you an error? I do not think that will happen. I think the sale will go through on your end.chukdotcom said:
 That has not been my experience at all. I have bought at least 50 F2F tickets since the 2020 F5 days.SHZA said:
 When standard tickets go to a cart, anyone else who tries to cart the tickets gets an error message "sorry another fan beat you" and can't even get to the checkout page. If that's how F2F works as well, why wouldn't the same thing happen?chukdotcom said:
 Yes, they were F2F. I think the issue here is that everyone is fast to get to the checkout page. They then (wrongly) assume that they didn't get them because they weren't fast enough to check out. The reality is (imo) that they actually weren't fast enough to GET to the check out page, and there is nothing they could do about it.SHZA said:
 I've never heard of anyone else leisurely going through the checkout process and actually scoring on F2F. Are you sure they weren't standard tickets (which have a timer)?chukdotcom said:
 I'm not 100% sure, but I am 95% sure. I have missed out on SOOO many tickets that I had in my cart. Not just this tour, but prior ones. I know how fast they go, and there is zero chance these pavilions would have survived the minutes I had them on my phone. Sure, could have been some weird fluke, but I tend to think not.sfrduder said:
 Not sure if this is true. I think you just got luckychukdotcom said:Not sure if this was covered previously, but if you get to the checkout page and you are the one that has the tickets "locked" you will get them regardless of how fast you are on that page. My proof:
 Saw a pair of F2F tickets. Had both my phone and laptop going. Both were on checkout page. Tried to checkout with laptop. Got the error occurred message. Figured I had missed out yet again. After more than a minute, realized I still had checkout page open on phone. Put in my CC, etc and was able to checkout and got the tickets. This was well after I got the error on my laptop.
 I have had at least a dozen Noblesville tickets in my cart that I couldn't check out with. I have always been very fast to enter CC etc. I am telling you it was a good 2 minutes before I checked out on my phone. I had already been complaining to my wife that I missed again. It was only out of frustration that I even bothered to complete it on my phone.
 My qualifications for the above: computer programmer.“Another fan beat you to it” is when you aren’t even close. The ticket has been bought already. Multiple people can get to the cart page until it’s bought. But only one of them is able to check out. And it doesn’t have to do with how fast you check out. That’s my hill and I’m willing to die on it…
 you will see the “another fan” if you randomly check the page and a ticket looks available. The cart ones happen when you see the tickets pop up between refreshes. That means you are close. But only the first person will lock the ticket. If that person abandons the cart then someone else may be enable to check out.
 Edit: I am not saying we actually do this as the risk of eating tickets would not be worth the trial imo.0
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 I agree that for F2F tickets, “another fan beat you to it “ means you weren’t close. I’m talking about STANDARD, not resale. The type of tickets that give you a timer when it’s in your cart. If someone else tries to add tickets that are in a standard cart, they’ll get the “another fan” message and cannot proceed to checkout. If F2F gives the same type of lock to the first to cart as you say, why doesn’t it give the “another fan” message from the jump like standard does? Why let others go to checkout if they have no chance?chukdotcom said:
 That has not been my experience at all. I have bought at least 50 F2F tickets since the 2020 F5 days.SHZA said:
 When standard tickets go to a cart, anyone else who tries to cart the tickets gets an error message "sorry another fan beat you" and can't even get to the checkout page. If that's how F2F works as well, why wouldn't the same thing happen?chukdotcom said:
 Yes, they were F2F. I think the issue here is that everyone is fast to get to the checkout page. They then (wrongly) assume that they didn't get them because they weren't fast enough to check out. The reality is (imo) that they actually weren't fast enough to GET to the check out page, and there is nothing they could do about it.SHZA said:
 I've never heard of anyone else leisurely going through the checkout process and actually scoring on F2F. Are you sure they weren't standard tickets (which have a timer)?chukdotcom said:
 I'm not 100% sure, but I am 95% sure. I have missed out on SOOO many tickets that I had in my cart. Not just this tour, but prior ones. I know how fast they go, and there is zero chance these pavilions would have survived the minutes I had them on my phone. Sure, could have been some weird fluke, but I tend to think not.sfrduder said:
 Not sure if this is true. I think you just got luckychukdotcom said:Not sure if this was covered previously, but if you get to the checkout page and you are the one that has the tickets "locked" you will get them regardless of how fast you are on that page. My proof:
 Saw a pair of F2F tickets. Had both my phone and laptop going. Both were on checkout page. Tried to checkout with laptop. Got the error occurred message. Figured I had missed out yet again. After more than a minute, realized I still had checkout page open on phone. Put in my CC, etc and was able to checkout and got the tickets. This was well after I got the error on my laptop.
 I have had at least a dozen Noblesville tickets in my cart that I couldn't check out with. I have always been very fast to enter CC etc. I am telling you it was a good 2 minutes before I checked out on my phone. I had already been complaining to my wife that I missed again. It was only out of frustration that I even bothered to complete it on my phone.
 My qualifications for the above: computer programmer.“Another fan beat you to it” is when you aren’t even close. The ticket has been bought already. Multiple people can get to the cart page until it’s bought. But only one of them is able to check out. And it doesn’t have to do with how fast you check out. That’s my hill and I’m willing to die on it…
 you will see the “another fan” if you randomly check the page and a ticket looks available. The cart ones happen when you see the tickets pop up between refreshes. That means you are close. But only the first person will lock the ticket. If that person abandons the cart then someone else may be enable to check out.0
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 Because, computers.SHZA said:
 I agree that for F2F tickets, “another fan beat you to it “ means you weren’t close. I’m talking about STANDARD, not resale. The type of tickets that give you a timer when it’s in your cart. If someone else tries to add tickets that are in a standard cart, they’ll get the “another fan” message and cannot proceed to checkout. If F2F gives the same type of lock to the first to cart as you say, why doesn’t it give the “another fan” message from the jump like standard does? Why let others go to checkout if they have no chance?chukdotcom said:
 That has not been my experience at all. I have bought at least 50 F2F tickets since the 2020 F5 days.SHZA said:
 When standard tickets go to a cart, anyone else who tries to cart the tickets gets an error message "sorry another fan beat you" and can't even get to the checkout page. If that's how F2F works as well, why wouldn't the same thing happen?chukdotcom said:
 Yes, they were F2F. I think the issue here is that everyone is fast to get to the checkout page. They then (wrongly) assume that they didn't get them because they weren't fast enough to check out. The reality is (imo) that they actually weren't fast enough to GET to the check out page, and there is nothing they could do about it.SHZA said:
 I've never heard of anyone else leisurely going through the checkout process and actually scoring on F2F. Are you sure they weren't standard tickets (which have a timer)?chukdotcom said:
 I'm not 100% sure, but I am 95% sure. I have missed out on SOOO many tickets that I had in my cart. Not just this tour, but prior ones. I know how fast they go, and there is zero chance these pavilions would have survived the minutes I had them on my phone. Sure, could have been some weird fluke, but I tend to think not.sfrduder said:
 Not sure if this is true. I think you just got luckychukdotcom said:Not sure if this was covered previously, but if you get to the checkout page and you are the one that has the tickets "locked" you will get them regardless of how fast you are on that page. My proof:
 Saw a pair of F2F tickets. Had both my phone and laptop going. Both were on checkout page. Tried to checkout with laptop. Got the error occurred message. Figured I had missed out yet again. After more than a minute, realized I still had checkout page open on phone. Put in my CC, etc and was able to checkout and got the tickets. This was well after I got the error on my laptop.
 I have had at least a dozen Noblesville tickets in my cart that I couldn't check out with. I have always been very fast to enter CC etc. I am telling you it was a good 2 minutes before I checked out on my phone. I had already been complaining to my wife that I missed again. It was only out of frustration that I even bothered to complete it on my phone.
 My qualifications for the above: computer programmer.“Another fan beat you to it” is when you aren’t even close. The ticket has been bought already. Multiple people can get to the cart page until it’s bought. But only one of them is able to check out. And it doesn’t have to do with how fast you check out. That’s my hill and I’m willing to die on it…
 you will see the “another fan” if you randomly check the page and a ticket looks available. The cart ones happen when you see the tickets pop up between refreshes. That means you are close. But only the first person will lock the ticket. If that person abandons the cart then someone else may be enable to check out.0
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 I've been coming to Deer Creek for years now and they've never been great about keeping people where they below. At least compared to all of the other venues I have visited. But, they also don't crack down on most of the other rules as well.Kwieneke said:
 same situation at matchbox 20 a few weeks ago. I couldn't believe all the people on the lawn and it was spilling down into the aisle between the pavilion and lawn as wellGern Blansten said:We were at the Snoop show which probably wasn't as packed as Dead but I remember the front of the lawn had no separation whatsoever. Deer Creek is usually pretty big on making people stay out of the aisles, etc., but they were not clearing people at all even in the pavilion. I thought that was strange. Definitely different than what I'm used to there. People were in the pavilion aisles and staff were walking right around them.
 It does seem like they will oversell the lawn this year. Maybe that's why...if they clear the aisles on the lawn that pushes a few thousand people onto the grass.
 Maybe it's because they are outnumbered 500 to 1?1998: Noblesville, IN 08-172000: Noblesville, IN 08-182003: Noblesville, IN 06-222006: Cincinnati, OH 06-242010: Noblesville, IN 05-072016: Lexington, KY 04-26, Wrigley Field 2 08-222018: Wrigley Field 1 08-18, Wrigley Field 2 08-202022: St. Louis, MO 09-182024: Noblesville, IN 08-26, Wrigley Field 1 08-29, Wrigley Field 2 08-31
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 disagree....last year they were constantly moving people out of the aisles for sure. They actually threatened to kick a guy out for repeated violations.BSully said:
 I've been coming to Deer Creek for years now and they've never been great about keeping people where they below. At least compared to all of the other venues I have visited. But, they also don't crack down on most of the other rules as well.Kwieneke said:
 same situation at matchbox 20 a few weeks ago. I couldn't believe all the people on the lawn and it was spilling down into the aisle between the pavilion and lawn as wellGern Blansten said:We were at the Snoop show which probably wasn't as packed as Dead but I remember the front of the lawn had no separation whatsoever. Deer Creek is usually pretty big on making people stay out of the aisles, etc., but they were not clearing people at all even in the pavilion. I thought that was strange. Definitely different than what I'm used to there. People were in the pavilion aisles and staff were walking right around them.
 It does seem like they will oversell the lawn this year. Maybe that's why...if they clear the aisles on the lawn that pushes a few thousand people onto the grass.
 Maybe it's because they are outnumbered 500 to 1?Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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            Mercury said:
 The kind of inspirational content I’m here for! Also, still enjoying my Charlotte 96 print very much my dude! Makes me happy seeing it on my wall each and every day!SHZA said:
 So true. It was fast and furious those last few days. I scored PIT while in the uber on the way to the venuedanofun said:Kwieneke said:
 so inspirational. im BACK indanofun said:
 19 days until the show. Plenty of Premiums that'll become standards if we don't cave. Be persistent and you'll no doubt be in the pavilion.PJammin said:Damnit - all this negative lawn discussion is now raising my anxiety in my quest to find a pavilion seat and get out of the lawn. 
 When we did the 2022 Camden alerts, the thread had 613 comments. The thread was opened 143 days before the show yet 360 (58.7%) of those comments were made in the 48 hours prior to show time. Plans change. Pack the pavilion! I love the purple you did (love purp) and wish I hadn’t let the framer talk me into green after seeing yours but still pretty darn happy with how it came out.0 I love the purple you did (love purp) and wish I hadn’t let the framer talk me into green after seeing yours but still pretty darn happy with how it came out.0
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 That is great to hear, maybe they are getting better. I was there on Sunday for ZZ Top and Skynryd and it was a laid-back crowd, so there really wasn't much to police, no one was in the aisles or anything.Gern Blansten said:
 disagree....last year they were constantly moving people out of the aisles for sure. They actually threatened to kick a guy out for repeated violations.BSully said:
 I've been coming to Deer Creek for years now and they've never been great about keeping people where they below. At least compared to all of the other venues I have visited. But, they also don't crack down on most of the other rules as well.Kwieneke said:
 same situation at matchbox 20 a few weeks ago. I couldn't believe all the people on the lawn and it was spilling down into the aisle between the pavilion and lawn as wellGern Blansten said:We were at the Snoop show which probably wasn't as packed as Dead but I remember the front of the lawn had no separation whatsoever. Deer Creek is usually pretty big on making people stay out of the aisles, etc., but they were not clearing people at all even in the pavilion. I thought that was strange. Definitely different than what I'm used to there. People were in the pavilion aisles and staff were walking right around them.
 It does seem like they will oversell the lawn this year. Maybe that's why...if they clear the aisles on the lawn that pushes a few thousand people onto the grass.
 Maybe it's because they are outnumbered 500 to 1?1998: Noblesville, IN 08-172000: Noblesville, IN 08-182003: Noblesville, IN 06-222006: Cincinnati, OH 06-242010: Noblesville, IN 05-072016: Lexington, KY 04-26, Wrigley Field 2 08-222018: Wrigley Field 1 08-18, Wrigley Field 2 08-202022: St. Louis, MO 09-182024: Noblesville, IN 08-26, Wrigley Field 1 08-29, Wrigley Field 2 08-31
 2025: Pitt 1 05-16, Pitt 2 05-180
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 I don't know....they were getting better maybe but recently they haven't done shit. I would guess that PJ is going to be a free for all.BSully said:
 That is great to hear, maybe they are getting better. I was there on Sunday for ZZ Top and Skynryd and it was a laid-back crowd, so there really wasn't much to police, no one was in the aisles or anything.Gern Blansten said:
 disagree....last year they were constantly moving people out of the aisles for sure. They actually threatened to kick a guy out for repeated violations.BSully said:
 I've been coming to Deer Creek for years now and they've never been great about keeping people where they below. At least compared to all of the other venues I have visited. But, they also don't crack down on most of the other rules as well.Kwieneke said:
 same situation at matchbox 20 a few weeks ago. I couldn't believe all the people on the lawn and it was spilling down into the aisle between the pavilion and lawn as wellGern Blansten said:We were at the Snoop show which probably wasn't as packed as Dead but I remember the front of the lawn had no separation whatsoever. Deer Creek is usually pretty big on making people stay out of the aisles, etc., but they were not clearing people at all even in the pavilion. I thought that was strange. Definitely different than what I'm used to there. People were in the pavilion aisles and staff were walking right around them.
 It does seem like they will oversell the lawn this year. Maybe that's why...if they clear the aisles on the lawn that pushes a few thousand people onto the grass.
 Maybe it's because they are outnumbered 500 to 1?
 They do still monitor who gets in the pavilion...they just don't walk up and down telling people to stay out of the aisles. Maybe they just don't have enough people to mess with it. That's probably the answer.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 Looks good! My framer originally suggested something different as well but I’m glad we changed it up. Can always switch mats down the roadMercury said:Mercury said:
 The kind of inspirational content I’m here for! Also, still enjoying my Charlotte 96 print very much my dude! Makes me happy seeing it on my wall each and every day!SHZA said:
 So true. It was fast and furious those last few days. I scored PIT while in the uber on the way to the venuedanofun said:Kwieneke said:
 so inspirational. im BACK indanofun said:
 19 days until the show. Plenty of Premiums that'll become standards if we don't cave. Be persistent and you'll no doubt be in the pavilion.PJammin said:Damnit - all this negative lawn discussion is now raising my anxiety in my quest to find a pavilion seat and get out of the lawn. 
 When we did the 2022 Camden alerts, the thread had 613 comments. The thread was opened 143 days before the show yet 360 (58.7%) of those comments were made in the 48 hours prior to show time. Plans change. Pack the pavilion! I love the purple you did (love purp) and wish I hadn’t let the framer talk me into green after seeing yours but still pretty darn happy with how it came out.0 I love the purple you did (love purp) and wish I hadn’t let the framer talk me into green after seeing yours but still pretty darn happy with how it came out.0
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            Does anyone know anything about this venue? If I have pavilion seats, are any of the upgrades worth it? How does parking work? I see some VIP parking options. Can I just pull up to venue and pay someone to park or is it all reserved in advance?0
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 If you are in the pavilion you're set. No upgrades necessary.chukdotcom said:Does anyone know anything about this venue? If I have pavilion seats, are any of the upgrades worth it? How does parking work? I see some VIP parking options. Can I just pull up to venue and pay someone to park or is it all reserved in advance?
 Parking is included with your ticket in the general lot. Premium parking is like $60 or so...that gets you out of the lot a bit quicker. The premium lots have different entry points so be sure to look into that prior to arriving at the venue.
 If you stay until the end of the show you might expect to wait about an hour to get out of the lot. If you aren't in a big hurry then no big deal...Premium probably gets you out of there about 45 minutes quicker at least.
 It's just a cluster leaving the place unfortunately. If you leave right when they start playing ALive/YLB you'll drive right out.Post edited by Gern Blansten onRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 Thanks so much for the detailed response. I have a rental car and am staying at a Hyatt about 7 miles away. Is there any chance Uber is an option to/from the show?Gern Blansten said:
 If you are in the pavilion you're set. No upgrades necessary.chukdotcom said:Does anyone know anything about this venue? If I have pavilion seats, are any of the upgrades worth it? How does parking work? I see some VIP parking options. Can I just pull up to venue and pay someone to park or is it all reserved in advance?
 Parking is included with your ticket in the general lot. Premium parking is like $60 or so...that gets you out of the lot a bit quicker. The premium lots have different entry points so be sure to look into that prior to arriving at the venue.
 If you stay until the end of the show you might expect to wait about an hour to get out of the lot. If you aren't in a big hurry then no big deal...Premium probably gets you out of there about 45 minutes quicker at least.
 It's just a cluster leaving the place unfortunately. If you leave right when they start playing ALive/YLB you'll drive right out.0
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 yes...they have a nice uber/lyft lot right on Boden Road at the NW corner of the property chukdotcom said: chukdotcom said:
 Thanks so much for the detailed response. I have a rental car and am staying at a Hyatt about 7 miles away. Is there any chance Uber is an option to/from the show?Gern Blansten said:
 If you are in the pavilion you're set. No upgrades necessary.chukdotcom said:Does anyone know anything about this venue? If I have pavilion seats, are any of the upgrades worth it? How does parking work? I see some VIP parking options. Can I just pull up to venue and pay someone to park or is it all reserved in advance?
 Parking is included with your ticket in the general lot. Premium parking is like $60 or so...that gets you out of the lot a bit quicker. The premium lots have different entry points so be sure to look into that prior to arriving at the venue.
 If you stay until the end of the show you might expect to wait about an hour to get out of the lot. If you aren't in a big hurry then no big deal...Premium probably gets you out of there about 45 minutes quicker at least.
 It's just a cluster leaving the place unfortunately. If you leave right when they start playing ALive/YLB you'll drive right out.
 where that turnaround is in the upper left of the photoPost edited by Gern Blansten onRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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            Hey @Gern Blansten Do you know how the Premium parking works? I want to park in the south lot. Would I have a choice on the day of show or is it assigned at purchase?Things were different then0
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 I always park off Boden road but I'm pretty sure the premium lot that you enter is just based on how you approach the property...so if you go to the south lot they should just let you in there.Evel K said:Hey @Gern Blansten Do you know how the Premium parking works? I want to park in the south lot. Would I have a choice on the day of show or is it assigned at purchase?
 Actually I have a better answer...I just looked at my premium ticket and it says enter at gates 1,2 or 4...I'm guessing the south lot is 4Post edited by Gern Blansten onRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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