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    kdiddykdiddy Posts: 733
    kdiddy said:
    Just scored  a single pit ticket for St Paul 1. Going to put up sec 115 row 22 in 5 minutes 
    NICE! I'm hoping to score one Pit ticket to STP as well.... Did you know someone about to drop or did you randomly refresh and find it? Gonna start looking everyday now. You've given me hope!
    Based on the scalpers re-selling, which happened to my last night, see if you can wait a while and set up a time drop with a real person, a real fan. We can work together to keep tix out of the hands of these a-holes! 
    I hear that too!
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    danofundanofun Posts: 809
    goblues82 said:
    SHZA said:
    These are up!  FW1, Section 114


    AND SOLD.... less than 3 minutes.

    I hope a fan got them. If you did, let us know.... 

    Sold at 3:06 pm, listed 34 minutes later 


    Wait what??? What is Ticket Club??? This is bullshit right? What happen to F2F sales only.

    UGH! Infuriating!!
    And this is exactly why you set up a time to drop with someone instead of saying “I’m going to drop at 3 pm exact” they are probably lurking on this page and buying when someone drops when they announce a time. You have 6 weeks to sell them.. you can wait a few hours to set up a drop time with someone!!! And make sure their profile says they have been a member for a while!!!! 


    I sent an email to Ticket Club...this was the reply



    As the tickets are non-transferable, how is TicketClub getting the tickets into the hands of the buyer? Burner Ticketmaster accounts?
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,548
    Could be burner accounts or meeting buyer at venue. On the Cure tour which had the same type of restrictions apparently vivid sent the buyer a digital file that put the tickets in their wallet. 
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    craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,249
    danofun said:
    goblues82 said:
    SHZA said:
    These are up!  FW1, Section 114


    AND SOLD.... less than 3 minutes.

    I hope a fan got them. If you did, let us know.... 

    Sold at 3:06 pm, listed 34 minutes later 


    Wait what??? What is Ticket Club??? This is bullshit right? What happen to F2F sales only.

    UGH! Infuriating!!
    And this is exactly why you set up a time to drop with someone instead of saying “I’m going to drop at 3 pm exact” they are probably lurking on this page and buying when someone drops when they announce a time. You have 6 weeks to sell them.. you can wait a few hours to set up a drop time with someone!!! And make sure their profile says they have been a member for a while!!!! 


    I sent an email to Ticket Club...this was the reply



    As the tickets are non-transferable, how is TicketClub getting the tickets into the hands of the buyer? Burner Ticketmaster accounts?
    this is a BS response, they are not a ticket broker selling tickets on behalf of.. they are buying them with newly created TM accounts, then changing the email/login for the account to the person that they sell to... there is an easy solution - TM needs a policy that IF account details change, email, Login, name etc.. then the account gets flagged and puts the tickets into secondary validation. TM sends the account an email that states to use this ticket you will need to produce the CC ending in XXXX to use the ticket in your account. This will sent up an issue with people selling tickets and force refunds or other actions.. of course buyers will be disenfranchised, but that is the risk buying non-transferable tickets from a scalper. 

    They will require the use of those tickets for entry to be accommodated with the Original Credit card holder info.. This is what we were told ALL tickets would need in 2020, you would need to show the CC as well as the Digital ticket, They backed off this policy when they realized it would create a nightmare at the venue.. For the few hundred tickets that were scalped, it would not be a big deal,. And if you alerted the buyer in advance that their ticket would require secondary review, its most likely they will not attempt to use the tickets. 
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    baldog27baldog27 Posts: 176
    This whole thread has devolved into laugh out loud tell me you don't know how the world works BY TELLING ME
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,516
    If they are serious about preventing scaling they just need to personalize the tickets like plane tickets.  The downside is the photo ID checks at the entrance would make it take forever to enter the venue.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,516
    Scalping 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,548
    Biometric scans. Like CLEAR at the airport. Makes it quicker than an ID check 
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    Alpine BoundAlpine Bound Posts: 1,809
    Stool samples

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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 10,224
    They could always use the microchips the government implanted in us when we got the Covid vaccine  ;)
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    steven87steven87 Posts: 1,335
    GlowGirl said:
    They could always use the microchips the government implanted in us when we got the Covid vaccine  ;)
    Ah I totally forgot about those microchips! Does that explain why my arm is now magnetic? 🤣
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,548
    No vaccine no tickets

    FTC is cracking down! 


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    Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 4,512
    SHZA said:
    No vaccine no tickets

    FTC is cracking down! 


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    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II. Michael Jordan's #!

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are (thank you, Vegas!), Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job (Vegas!), low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
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    CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,272
    edited July 2023
    Two singles for AUS 2 up in 115. Both on the aisle. 
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    07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa
    5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin
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    sfrdudersfrduder Posts: 263
    two for INDY Section H, row Z were posted and went fast. 
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    KwienekeKwieneke Indiana Posts: 1,366
    Chicago 1, some 200s behind stage 
    Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022.
    Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. 
    *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) 
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    Floor row 6 st paul 2 up
    Sunfest Gimli, Manitoba 1993. Winnipeg 2005,2011. St Paul 2014,St Paul 1&2 2023  N1&2. Chicago 1&2 Sept 5&7.  Austin,Texas 1&2 Sept 18&19,2023
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    pjungerspjungers Posts: 77
    With the scalper concerns that popped up today, I'm just going to throw this out there - I'm looking for 2 GA to STP2 if anyone has extras or can't go. I took my older son to a show in 2014 and we were in GA. This time I'm taking my younger son and he really wants a similar experience. You'd really make this kid's day if we can work something out.

    If not, no big deal, I'll keep checking F2F. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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    steven87steven87 Posts: 1,335
    Floor row 6 st paul 2 up
    Got ‘em! I’m inching closer and closer to the pit! 
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    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,937
    Floor row 6 st paul 2 up
    Damn! Was refreshing and never even saw them. 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
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    steven87 said:
    Floor row 6 st paul 2 up
    Got ‘em! I’m inching closer and closer to the pit! 
    Nice!
    Sunfest Gimli, Manitoba 1993. Winnipeg 2005,2011. St Paul 2014,St Paul 1&2 2023  N1&2. Chicago 1&2 Sept 5&7.  Austin,Texas 1&2 Sept 18&19,2023
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    SU25397SU25397 California Posts: 41
    I have 2 117 Row 5 for STP 2 that I am looking to trade for 2 GA.
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    steven87steven87 Posts: 1,335
    Since I upgraded, I’m going to be posting my STP N2 FLRR row 12 pair. I won’t post the time on here because of the scalper issue we’ve been having. But if anyone is interested, shoot me a DM and we’ll arrange a time. 
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    danofundanofun Posts: 809
    Just to be clear, scalpers aren’t sitting at their computers, watching these forums, and hitting F5 like the rest of us. F2F was born because bands wanted to limit 3rd parties from profiting on their ticket sales. In 2022, they succeeded and PJ F2F was spared the scalper bots. That may no longer be the case. 

    If a profit is possible, scalper bots will be spinning 24/7 and timed drops, be it public, private, day or night, will have a very small chance of being successful.

    Here’s hoping this fear is not yet realized.
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    danofundanofun Posts: 809
    edited July 2023
    F2F CHI2 Sec 1 Row 12
    Hope a human grabbed them..
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    KwienekeKwieneke Indiana Posts: 1,366
    danofun said:
    F2F CHI2 Sec 1 Row 12
    Hope a human grabbed them..
    As soon as I’m off the forum there’s a drop lol 
    Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022.
    Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. 
    *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) 
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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,681
    Austin 1
    Section 102 Row S
    Pair
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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    goblues82goblues82 Posts: 260
    goblues82 said:
    SHZA said:
    These are up!  FW1, Section 114


    AND SOLD.... less than 3 minutes.

    I hope a fan got them. If you did, let us know.... 

    Sold at 3:06 pm, listed 34 minutes later 


    Wait what??? What is Ticket Club??? This is bullshit right? What happen to F2F sales only.

    UGH! Infuriating!!
    And this is exactly why you set up a time to drop with someone instead of saying “I’m going to drop at 3 pm exact” they are probably lurking on this page and buying when someone drops when they announce a time. You have 6 weeks to sell them.. you can wait a few hours to set up a drop time with someone!!! And make sure their profile says they have been a member for a while!!!! 
    That is a good point and I have done private times with my last few drops.  I don’t think I would fault someone for trying to give the community a chance though.  
    I think the problem with that is by giving the “community” a chance that someone has acquired 110 pairs of tickets. 
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    goblues82goblues82 Posts: 260
    danofun said:
    goblues82 said:
    SHZA said:
    These are up!  FW1, Section 114


    AND SOLD.... less than 3 minutes.

    I hope a fan got them. If you did, let us know.... 

    Sold at 3:06 pm, listed 34 minutes later 


    Wait what??? What is Ticket Club??? This is bullshit right? What happen to F2F sales only.

    UGH! Infuriating!!
    And this is exactly why you set up a time to drop with someone instead of saying “I’m going to drop at 3 pm exact” they are probably lurking on this page and buying when someone drops when they announce a time. You have 6 weeks to sell them.. you can wait a few hours to set up a drop time with someone!!! And make sure their profile says they have been a member for a while!!!! 


    I sent an email to Ticket Club...this was the reply



    As the tickets are non-transferable, how is TicketClub getting the tickets into the hands of the buyer? Burner Ticketmaster accounts?
    this is a BS response, they are not a ticket broker selling tickets on behalf of.. they are buying them with newly created TM accounts, then changing the email/login for the account to the person that they sell to... there is an easy solution - TM needs a policy that IF account details change, email, Login, name etc.. then the account gets flagged and puts the tickets into secondary validation. TM sends the account an email that states to use this ticket you will need to produce the CC ending in XXXX to use the ticket in your account. This will sent up an issue with people selling tickets and force refunds or other actions.. of course buyers will be disenfranchised, but that is the risk buying non-transferable tickets from a scalper. 

    They will require the use of those tickets for entry to be accommodated with the Original Credit card holder info.. This is what we were told ALL tickets would need in 2020, you would need to show the CC as well as the Digital ticket, They backed off this policy when they realized it would create a nightmare at the venue.. For the few hundred tickets that were scalped, it would not be a big deal,. And if you alerted the buyer in advance that their ticket would require secondary review, it’s most likely they will not attempt to use the tickets. 
    I think what you’re taking out of the equation is the fact Ticketmaster doesn’t care. They’re already unhappy they can’t do resale and mark up tickets on the site so asking them to do no work and still not get paid for it isn’t gonna happen. 
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    goblues82goblues82 Posts: 260
    steven87 said:
    Since I upgraded, I’m going to be posting my STP N2 FLRR row 12 pair. I won’t post the time on here because of the scalper issue we’ve been having. But if anyone is interested, shoot me a DM and we’ll arrange a time. 
    I sent you a PM… 
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