Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

JBob87

Edved007 said:

BRWilly said:

Abe Froman said:

wsimon74 said:

Edved007 said:

I have tried to remain patient during this whole process, but now Tickets Today has confirmed (at least for Austin) that seats were totally random and the seats available for 10C were evenly split with the Verified Fan on sale, and this is not even counting the 10% that were held back for premium that was communicated to us. 

Almost everyone that had seats reassigned became significantly worse and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they screwed up and assigned seats to 10C folks that were meant either for premium and/or held back for other on sale opportunities. My patience has officially run out, this whole things has soured me to a point that is really sad.  

It was communicated that more seats were available and spread throughout the venues, but at least in the case of Chicago it appears that the entire 10C has been moved to the 300 level.  The lack of transparency and communication about this debacle is the most frustrating part of the whole thing. 

And i do agree with some others, I personally can't wait until I have all these tickets officially delivered to me so I can dump them ASAP.

They need to pull a Taylor Swift, cancel or reschedule the Verified Sale and clear all of this up and have 10C allocate tix based upon seniority. Will it happen, no. Should it happen, yes. September is a long ways away, there is time to fix this. 

Something should be done. What a colossal fuck up with this whole thing. 

Where is this Austin information from? 

separate thread, copied here for reference....

"Here is email I received from them. There is obviously some sort of miscommunication here. I get people will just say be happy to be in the building but if I am traveling and spending thousands of dollars, I would like to know if my seniority of 20 years will be used in allocating my seats. Maybe some would travel anywhere just to get in the building but am I going to travel to sit all way across stage in Row R? I think we need some sort of clarification here.

Thank you for reaching Ticketstoday Supoort!
 
We apologize that you are dissatisfied with the results of your request.  We are provided seats throughout the entire venue which are randomly assigned to the randomly chosen requests.
 
In order to be fair to people who aren't aware of the opportunity to order tickets, the seating is divided exactly equally by quality (as well as quantity). Therefore, the tickets allotment includes all levels of quality, from front row to lawn or behind stage seats, the exact same range of seating as will be available when the shows go on sale via outlets.
 
As per the user agreement which is posted on each of our ticketing sites and every lottery request page which you must agree to before entering your credit card:  All ticket sales are final and non-refundable unless the show has been cancelled or postponed; no exchanges will be allowed."

If this is true IMO it’s a bombshell. If Verified opens tomorrow and the seat selection is the same range as 10C received that is absolutely new and probably is a huge blow to the 10C. Can’t imagine what the mood will be on here if Verified has substantial selection of 100s and 200s while some 20 year members are in the 300s. 

If this happens along with all the other subscriber changes this year I have to wonder if this is a soft way of thinning out 10C and it’s operations as the band gets older. Probably getting ahead of myself on that. 

Hopefully this is just a generic customer service response written badly. 

Eddieredder

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

cblock4life said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Explain this one to me: my account requested 1:Chicago 1, 2:Chicago 2 and 3: Indy. All unfulfilled. My wife had 1: Indy, 2: Chicago 1 and she got Chicago 2 and noting for Indy. 

How does she get Chicago with her second pick and I get nothing with the same show as my number 1? 

Another piece of evidence that this lottery was completely boned. 

Your name was never chosen, your wife’s was.  

They do not choose names though first though. They choose cities-> type of ticket->priority->then they choose names. 

Nobody has any clue what they did, that's the problem. 

And nobody really has a clue what they've done in the past either. The comical part is people pass of what they "think" or "want" as how it is. Its not like the NBA draft lottery where its witnessed by Deloitte or Ernst and Young. They can do whatever they want in the black box. And its always been a black box.  

The Camaros Hood

troubledsoulsuniteblog said:

RobZ said:

Was just over at the U2 presale....$1400 for "premium" seats.  Fuck Ticketmaster.

That's wild. I got under $200 for a pair of U2 tickets on the floor at Gillette back in 2017. How are costing 7x now? This is nutso.

Those are premium and the new venue probably has added value in their eyes. Still absurd. 

JBob87

PJNB said:

JBob87 said:

PJNB said:

cblock4life said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Explain this one to me: my account requested 1:Chicago 1, 2:Chicago 2 and 3: Indy. All unfulfilled. My wife had 1: Indy, 2: Chicago 1 and she got Chicago 2 and noting for Indy. 

How does she get Chicago with her second pick and I get nothing with the same show as my number 1? 

Another piece of evidence that this lottery was completely boned. 

Your name was never chosen, your wife’s was.  

They do not choose names though first though. They choose cities-> type of ticket->priority->then they choose names. 

That is what they have historically done.

Seems pretty clear to me that is not what happened this time. Fine print of the lottery explanation confirms that a change was made.

To me the ultimate question is was this something the band approved (and if so, why?) or something TM did for their own purposes. Or was it just a fuckup. My money is certainly on the latter. 

For the most part priority worked. GA worked flawlessly. RES some people got missed myself included. They tried to correct it in a redraw saying it had to do with seniority and seating and a lot of the people that got missed won tickets. Nose bleeds for the most part but they got in. 

There is no cases of people getting GA not in your first pick. If they drew names first this would not be the case at all. 

Mostly agreed. It is possible they pick names and then allocate tickets within those names by priority. And there were not enough GA tickets to ever make it beyond priority 1. But the natural question is why would you pick more winning names than you have tickets to distribute. It is most likely just some sort of TM coding fuck up. 

cblock4life

Maybe now it’s easier to understand why they don’t tour as much or don’t like touring.  I wouldn’t want to deal with all the anger and bad energy that comes with this entire process.  

PJNB

Eddieredder said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

cblock4life said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Explain this one to me: my account requested 1:Chicago 1, 2:Chicago 2 and 3: Indy. All unfulfilled. My wife had 1: Indy, 2: Chicago 1 and she got Chicago 2 and noting for Indy. 

How does she get Chicago with her second pick and I get nothing with the same show as my number 1? 

Another piece of evidence that this lottery was completely boned. 

Your name was never chosen, your wife’s was.  

They do not choose names though first though. They choose cities-> type of ticket->priority->then they choose names. 

Nobody has any clue what they did, that's the problem. 

And nobody really has a clue what they've done in the past either. The comical part is people pass of what they "think" or "want" as how it is. Its not like the NBA draft lottery where its witnessed by Deloitte or Ernst and Young. They can do whatever they want in the black box. And its always been a black box.  

We knew exactly how they were done in the past. We had it down to a science. It is a very simple lotto and when things look wrong it is very obvious. Before when they did will call there was almost no priority issues. Whenever one popped up the person would not provide a screenshot or when they did what they said was incorrect. Whatever 10C used then to select the winners worked great. 

Now you are right we have no clue what they are doing or what went wrong on their end. It is all too random to be able to see a pattern enough aside from it worked from the most part but a lot of people got missed. 

wsimon74

The Camaros Hood said:

troubledsoulsuniteblog said:

RobZ said:

Was just over at the U2 presale....$1400 for "premium" seats.  Fuck Ticketmaster.

That's wild. I got under $200 for a pair of U2 tickets on the floor at Gillette back in 2017. How are costing 7x now? This is nutso.

Those are premium and the new venue probably has added value in their eyes. Still absurd. 

what makes it even more absurd is that someone is going to pay that. 

The Camaros Hood

wsimon74 said:

The Camaros Hood said:

troubledsoulsuniteblog said:

RobZ said:

Was just over at the U2 presale....$1400 for "premium" seats.  Fuck Ticketmaster.

That's wild. I got under $200 for a pair of U2 tickets on the floor at Gillette back in 2017. How are costing 7x now? This is nutso.

Those are premium and the new venue probably has added value in their eyes. Still absurd. 

what makes it even more absurd is that someone is going to pay that. 

Facts. 

Kevinman

Eddieredder said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

cblock4life said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Explain this one to me: my account requested 1:Chicago 1, 2:Chicago 2 and 3: Indy. All unfulfilled. My wife had 1: Indy, 2: Chicago 1 and she got Chicago 2 and noting for Indy. 

How does she get Chicago with her second pick and I get nothing with the same show as my number 1? 

Another piece of evidence that this lottery was completely boned. 

Your name was never chosen, your wife’s was.  

They do not choose names though first though. They choose cities-> type of ticket->priority->then they choose names. 

Nobody has any clue what they did, that's the problem. 

And nobody really has a clue what they've done in the past either. The comical part is people pass of what they "think" or "want" as how it is. Its not like the NBA draft lottery where its witnessed by Deloitte or Ernst and Young. They can do whatever they want in the black box. And its always been a black box.  

We have a pretty good idea based on reporting spreadsheets from previous shows how it worked.  Priority, seniority, etc.....it all lined up with no problems...........can you say the same this time?

JimmyV

This should be a fun time. Instead there is just a lingering bad taste. 

Eddieredder

troubledsoulsuniteblog said:

RobZ said:

Was just over at the U2 presale....$1400 for "premium" seats.  Fuck Ticketmaster.

That's wild. I got under $200 for a pair of U2 tickets on the floor at Gillette back in 2017. How are costing 7x now? This is nutso.

"Premium". Thats not the regular tix. I'm also curious what the regular tix were. I'm sure its at least $250-300+.

cblock4life

Wonder if people would get this upset if they were trying to see Jesus?  Oh that’s right, Jesus never charged anyone. 

static111

cblock4life said:

Honestly it was better when you could only get one night or the other when there’s multiple dates for one city.  I believe that widens everyone’s chances of getting tickets. Then we all have to do some work to get the other night.  

I agree 100% and I also will add that postcards and money orders never created this much pandemonium

Eddieredder

PJNB said:

Eddieredder said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

cblock4life said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Explain this one to me: my account requested 1:Chicago 1, 2:Chicago 2 and 3: Indy. All unfulfilled. My wife had 1: Indy, 2: Chicago 1 and she got Chicago 2 and noting for Indy. 

How does she get Chicago with her second pick and I get nothing with the same show as my number 1? 

Another piece of evidence that this lottery was completely boned. 

Your name was never chosen, your wife’s was.  

They do not choose names though first though. They choose cities-> type of ticket->priority->then they choose names. 

Nobody has any clue what they did, that's the problem. 

And nobody really has a clue what they've done in the past either. The comical part is people pass of what they "think" or "want" as how it is. Its not like the NBA draft lottery where its witnessed by Deloitte or Ernst and Young. They can do whatever they want in the black box. And its always been a black box.  

We knew exactly how they were done in the past. We had it down to a science. It is a very simple lotto and when things look wrong it is very obvious. Before when they did will call there was almost no priority issues. Whenever one popped up the person would not provide a screenshot or when they did what they said was incorrect. Whatever 10C used then to select the winners worked great. 

Now you are right we have no clue what they are doing or what went wrong on their end. It is all too random to be able to see a pattern enough aside from it worked from the most part but a lot of people got missed. 

For all we know they drew names out of a hat. Did they use a program? Draw straws? They could rip up entries of people they don't like or deem toxic. They can just give out tixs to the people they love. 

Did they draw by priority first or draw names? I don't know. Based on how many opinions are out there its clear nobody knows. The only ones who know are in the room, and thats nobody here. 

PJNB

Eddieredder said:

PJNB said:

Eddieredder said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

cblock4life said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Explain this one to me: my account requested 1:Chicago 1, 2:Chicago 2 and 3: Indy. All unfulfilled. My wife had 1: Indy, 2: Chicago 1 and she got Chicago 2 and noting for Indy. 

How does she get Chicago with her second pick and I get nothing with the same show as my number 1? 

Another piece of evidence that this lottery was completely boned. 

Your name was never chosen, your wife’s was.  

They do not choose names though first though. They choose cities-> type of ticket->priority->then they choose names. 

Nobody has any clue what they did, that's the problem. 

And nobody really has a clue what they've done in the past either. The comical part is people pass of what they "think" or "want" as how it is. Its not like the NBA draft lottery where its witnessed by Deloitte or Ernst and Young. They can do whatever they want in the black box. And its always been a black box.  

We knew exactly how they were done in the past. We had it down to a science. It is a very simple lotto and when things look wrong it is very obvious. Before when they did will call there was almost no priority issues. Whenever one popped up the person would not provide a screenshot or when they did what they said was incorrect. Whatever 10C used then to select the winners worked great. 

Now you are right we have no clue what they are doing or what went wrong on their end. It is all too random to be able to see a pattern enough aside from it worked from the most part but a lot of people got missed. 

For all we know they drew names out of a hat. Did they use a program? Draw straws? They could rip up entries of people they don't like or deem toxic. They can just give out tixs to the people they love. 

Did they draw by priority first or draw names? I don't know. Based on how many opinions are out there its clear nobody knows. The only ones who know are in the room, and thats nobody here. 

Thats why we are all discussing it but to say we did not know in the past how it was run is not correct. This one I agree was fucked lol.

Abe Froman

PJNB said:

Eddieredder said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

cblock4life said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Explain this one to me: my account requested 1:Chicago 1, 2:Chicago 2 and 3: Indy. All unfulfilled. My wife had 1: Indy, 2: Chicago 1 and she got Chicago 2 and noting for Indy. 

How does she get Chicago with her second pick and I get nothing with the same show as my number 1? 

Another piece of evidence that this lottery was completely boned. 

Your name was never chosen, your wife’s was.  

They do not choose names though first though. They choose cities-> type of ticket->priority->then they choose names. 

Nobody has any clue what they did, that's the problem. 

And nobody really has a clue what they've done in the past either. The comical part is people pass of what they "think" or "want" as how it is. Its not like the NBA draft lottery where its witnessed by Deloitte or Ernst and Young. They can do whatever they want in the black box. And its always been a black box.  

We knew exactly how they were done in the past. We had it down to a science. It is a very simple lotto and when things look wrong it is very obvious. Before when they did will call there was almost no priority issues. Whenever one popped up the person would not provide a screenshot or when they did what they said was incorrect. Whatever 10C used then to select the winners worked great. 

Now you are right we have no clue what they are doing or what went wrong on their end. It is all too random to be able to see a pattern enough aside from it worked from the most part but a lot of people got missed. 

This. 

Kevinman said:

Eddieredder said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

cblock4life said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Explain this one to me: my account requested 1:Chicago 1, 2:Chicago 2 and 3: Indy. All unfulfilled. My wife had 1: Indy, 2: Chicago 1 and she got Chicago 2 and noting for Indy. 

How does she get Chicago with her second pick and I get nothing with the same show as my number 1? 

Another piece of evidence that this lottery was completely boned. 

Your name was never chosen, your wife’s was.  

They do not choose names though first though. They choose cities-> type of ticket->priority->then they choose names. 

Nobody has any clue what they did, that's the problem. 

And nobody really has a clue what they've done in the past either. The comical part is people pass of what they "think" or "want" as how it is. Its not like the NBA draft lottery where its witnessed by Deloitte or Ernst and Young. They can do whatever they want in the black box. And its always been a black box.  

We have a pretty good idea based on reporting spreadsheets from previous shows how it worked.  Priority, seniority, etc.....it all lined up with no problems...........can you say the same this time?

And this 

BRWilly

JBob87 said:

Edved007 said:

BRWilly said:

Abe Froman said:

wsimon74 said:

Edved007 said:

I have tried to remain patient during this whole process, but now Tickets Today has confirmed (at least for Austin) that seats were totally random and the seats available for 10C were evenly split with the Verified Fan on sale, and this is not even counting the 10% that were held back for premium that was communicated to us. 

Almost everyone that had seats reassigned became significantly worse and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they screwed up and assigned seats to 10C folks that were meant either for premium and/or held back for other on sale opportunities. My patience has officially run out, this whole things has soured me to a point that is really sad.  

It was communicated that more seats were available and spread throughout the venues, but at least in the case of Chicago it appears that the entire 10C has been moved to the 300 level.  The lack of transparency and communication about this debacle is the most frustrating part of the whole thing. 

And i do agree with some others, I personally can't wait until I have all these tickets officially delivered to me so I can dump them ASAP.

They need to pull a Taylor Swift, cancel or reschedule the Verified Sale and clear all of this up and have 10C allocate tix based upon seniority. Will it happen, no. Should it happen, yes. September is a long ways away, there is time to fix this. 

Something should be done. What a colossal fuck up with this whole thing. 

Where is this Austin information from? 

separate thread, copied here for reference....

"Here is email I received from them. There is obviously some sort of miscommunication here. I get people will just say be happy to be in the building but if I am traveling and spending thousands of dollars, I would like to know if my seniority of 20 years will be used in allocating my seats. Maybe some would travel anywhere just to get in the building but am I going to travel to sit all way across stage in Row R? I think we need some sort of clarification here.

Thank you for reaching Ticketstoday Supoort!
 
We apologize that you are dissatisfied with the results of your request.  We are provided seats throughout the entire venue which are randomly assigned to the randomly chosen requests.
 
In order to be fair to people who aren't aware of the opportunity to order tickets, the seating is divided exactly equally by quality (as well as quantity). Therefore, the tickets allotment includes all levels of quality, from front row to lawn or behind stage seats, the exact same range of seating as will be available when the shows go on sale via outlets.
 
As per the user agreement which is posted on each of our ticketing sites and every lottery request page which you must agree to before entering your credit card:  All ticket sales are final and non-refundable unless the show has been cancelled or postponed; no exchanges will be allowed."

If this is true IMO it’s a bombshell. If Verified opens tomorrow and the seat selection is the same range as 10C received that is absolutely new and probably is a huge blow to the 10C. Can’t imagine what the mood will be on here if Verified has substantial selection of 100s and 200s while some 20 year members are in the 300s. 

If this happens along with all the other subscriber changes this year I have to wonder if this is a soft way of thinning out 10C and it’s operations as the band gets older. Probably getting ahead of myself on that. 

Hopefully this is just a generic customer service response written badly. 

I'm guessing (hoping) generic especially since they mention "lawn" and "behind stage" and in the case of Austin, which this email is purportedly responding to, those don't apply. Still would definitely be a major failure if TC seats were a) randomly placed around the venue and b) randomly assigned w/o taking into account TC seniority # and preference. Also we're told they have secured majority of tickets for TC in some of the best seats in the house, not a random assortment of the tickets.

aisleseats

RobZ said:

Was just over at the U2 presale....$1400 for "premium" seats.  Fuck Ticketmaster.

Lol. Wait until you see the $4k PJ Premium tickets.

Franklin Delano Bluth

cblock4life said:

JimmyV said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Explain this one to me: my account requested 1:Chicago 1, 2:Chicago 2 and 3: Indy. All unfulfilled. My wife had 1: Indy, 2: Chicago 1 and she got Chicago 2 and noting for Indy. 

How does she get Chicago with her second pick and I get nothing with the same show as my number 1? 

Another piece of evidence that this lottery was completely boned. 

Totally boned. I got Chicago 1 with my third pick. Those tickets should have gone to someone else. 

 No, your name was pulled, his wife’s name was pulled, his wasn’t.  The lottery is totally random.  

You’re missing the priority part of the selection of the names. It’s alright. Keep defending this garbage process

PJNB

aisleseats said:

RobZ said:

Was just over at the U2 presale....$1400 for "premium" seats.  Fuck Ticketmaster.

Lol. Wait until you see the $4k PJ Premium tickets.

Def going to see that for Chicago. I think MSG topped out at $5K. Two nights might help things though.