Silly Question about earplugs

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  • capybaralet
    capybaralet Posts: 145
    yeah you should wear ear plugs.

    I played drums for about 4 months without them, while listening to music at full blast all the time, and I already have a little bit of a harder time hearing people.

    personally, I wear old headphone things used for shooting off guns. I've never worn them at a show, but next one my band plays at I will be...

    those numbers for how long it takes to damage your ears are pretty interesting... I'm not sure how acurate htey are; I've always though it basically had to be about 15 minutes before you started to damage your ears... definately makes me worry and want to look into it, though.

    btw, does anybody know why it's always ear plugs not headset things?
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  • neenerbean
    neenerbean Posts: 205
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    Their show here in Missoula was louder than fuck, too... I had my 28 dB plugs in, and it was still too loud! The show I was at in Denver wasn't nearly as bad. I think they just rock the smaller rooms a little harder, for some reason.

    As far as the guys in PJ, I don't think the stage volume is too terribly bad... Just because it's loud in the audience doesn't mean it's that bad on stage. I have a feeling that Eddie gets blasted a bit, though... have you SEEN how many monitors he has in front and back of him? What a nightmare...

    his floor monitors probably aren't cranked TOO loud - just enough so he can hear over the din of the crowd & amps/drums behind him. I think everyone on stage gets an equal amount of noise up there, though. but the amps, drums and vox are mic'd out for the audience and cranked out of the PA speakers so those closer to the stage get it worse than the band...right?
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    Their show here in Missoula was louder than fuck, too... I had my 28 dB plugs in, and it was still too loud! The show I was at in Denver wasn't nearly as bad. I think they just rock the smaller rooms a little harder, for some reason.

    As far as the guys in PJ, I don't think the stage volume is too terribly bad... Just because it's loud in the audience doesn't mean it's that bad on stage. I have a feeling that Eddie gets blasted a bit, though... have you SEEN how many monitors he has in front and back of him? What a nightmare...


    the massive array of monitors are because Eddie roams too much and won't use an In ear. remember, the stuff posted earlier from the rat sound page about hiding monitors in a chandelier or something because he would roam all over and not stay infront of his monitors?

    In ears have to be a god send for monitor engineers.


    by the way Velvet Revolver besides being remarkably average and almost boring, is ungodly loud. between that and Anti Flag at a RATM show I attended those are the loudest shows I've ever heard. I shant attend anymore without plugs.
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  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    neenerbean wrote:
    his floor monitors probably aren't cranked TOO loud - just enough so he can hear over the din of the crowd & amps/drums behind him. I think everyone on stage gets an equal amount of noise up there, though. but the amps, drums and vox are mic'd out for the audience and cranked out of the PA speakers so those closer to the stage get it worse than the band...right?

    I think he's probably not using the full volume available... those monitors have to be capable of 140 dB. Like Paco said, coverage area is probably the bigger issue... that's why they use side-fill monitors, as well.

    As far as it goes, in-ear-monitors are an audio engineer's best friend. The monitor tech doesn't have to worry about roaming singer/guitarists, no feedback, and the front-of-house engineer doesn't have to fight the stage volume to get a decent mix. And for an artist, they provide a constant, consistent mix no matter where you are on stage, they provide better vocal intelligability, no feedback, and less overall volume. A lot of bands are putting a couple audience mics out front, and running them into the IEM's so they can still hear the crowd.

    As far as distance from the stage, sound acts logrithmically... so every time you double your distance from the stage, you cut the overall sound pressure by 5 dB. And decibels are logrithmic, so every ten dB is either twice or half as loud. So, if the volume 10 feet from the stage is 130 dB, you'd have to move to 40 feet away to get down to 120 dB, and at the back of an arena (160 ft.) you'd still be looking at around 110 dB.
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  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    capybaralet wrote:
    those numbers for how long it takes to damage your ears are pretty interesting... I'm not sure how acurate htey are; I've always though it basically had to be about 15 minutes before you started to damage your ears... definately makes me worry and want to look into it, though.

    btw, does anybody know why it's always ear plugs not headset things?


    The numbers are OSHA numbers... so maybe a little overzealous, but legally employers have to comply with them. But shoot a .357 Magnum 6 times in 5 seconds right next to your ears (about 140-145 dB) and see if you don't have damage.

    Earplugs are low-profile, headsets are painfully obvious.
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  • MissYouAllDay
    MissYouAllDay Posts: 939
    What is the standard in the custom molded ones? It seems these one would be ideal. My ears are shaped weird and earplugs never stay in so I would want the moulded ones.

    Are those ones from the earplug superstore really good?
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