Ed's guitar in No Way (SVT)

celluloid_love

I'm sure this question must have come up a lot over the years since SVT's release, but could someone please tell me what that awesome-looking guitar is that Ed uses during No Way?

Just curious. Thanks.

mccreadyisgod

Thinkin' it was one of his Vox guitars.

celluloid_love

That's probably the likeliest possibility, although I've never seen one that looked anywhere near as cool as Ed's one in SVT.

Anyone know for sure?

mccreadyisgod

Q: I'm curious about Ed's guitar setup and was wondering if you would mind assisting me. It's widely reported that Ed doesn't use effects pedals. How does he switch between clean and dirty tones in songs like "Not For You" and "Corduroy"? Also, in Single Video Theory, a pedal is visible at his feet during Wishlist. Was this an exception or a change in his setup? Thank you for your time.

A: You are correct that Ed typically does not use guitar effect pedals, and the fact that there is a foot pedal present at his feet during the filming of SVT is purely a fluke. At times - such as during those rehearsals - Ed has experimented with using various distortion pedals, but one has never stuck - either because he wasn't happy with the distortion, or because he doesn't want to fuss with a foot pedal by his microphone stand. On top of that, Ed's really interested in guitars with distortion and/or effects built on-board the guitar, such as in the vintage, Italian-made Vox guitars that he owns. With those guitars he can turn the distortion, and/or other effects, on and off at the flip of a switch right on the guitar itself. It's a pretty neat concept, but whereas the Vox guitars naturally sound O.K., they don't sound great. So far though, Ed's never taken one of the Vox's out on tour with him. (You can check out one of his Vox's at the very beginning of "MFC" on the SVT video.)

*courtesy of http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/PearlJam/gear/ed.html

celluloid_love

Cool, that's the MFC one though...I'm interested in the one he plays during No Way.

Pacomc79

Those guitars are fun but fragile. It dosen't shock me he dosen't bring them on the road. I'm sure the electronics are a nightmare. He ought to contact Matt Bellamy from Muse and get with Manson guitars. Have them build whatever he want's right into the guitar.

Pete has been using the strats lately with the volume boosters installed and the fishman acoustic bridges. It dosen't shock me Ed likes the old Voxes

that hiwatt has plenty of bite without using a pedal, we don't really know how those fralins are wound on his SG's they could be a bit hot, and he could have caps on the volume pot to allow him to turn it down without losing the high end.

I know he uses a delay sometimes, It would be cool to see him use some kind of a clean volume booster nothing to color or compress just more of what he's got.

pariah

It's a Jerry Jones electric sitar, and it's butt-ugly.

http://guitargeek.com/gearview/541/

It's another model than Ed's but I'm shure he uses one.

celluloid_love

It's not butt ugly, you are! :( *cries*

Lol, just kidding. Thanks for finding me that. Sitar eh? What the hell was Ed doing using an electric sitar in No Way? Hmm...

Anyway, I think it looks fucking awesome, especially the black one from SVT. Thanks again, I would've never been able to find it.

celluloid_love

Pacomc79 wrote:

Those guitars are fun but fragile. It dosen't shock me he dosen't bring them on the road.

I just realized that this is probably the reason No Way doesn't get played live anymore. The guitar is probably too damn fragile to bring on tour!

pariah

celluloid_love wrote:

It's not butt ugly, you are! :( *cries*

You're welcome.

WhiteMaleRat

I gather that Ed wasn't too thrilled about that pedal he received as a gift anonymously in the Showbox DVD.

He_Who_Forgets

Pacomc79 wrote:

Those guitars are fun but fragile. It dosen't shock me he dosen't bring them on the road. I'm sure the electronics are a nightmare. He ought to contact Matt Bellamy from Muse and get with Manson guitars. Have them build whatever he want's right into the guitar.

Pete has been using the strats lately with the volume boosters installed and the fishman acoustic bridges. It dosen't shock me Ed likes the old Voxes

that hiwatt has plenty of bite without using a pedal, we don't really know how those fralins are wound on his SG's they could be a bit hot, and he could have caps on the volume pot to allow him to turn it down without losing the high end.

I know he uses a delay sometimes, It would be cool to see him use some kind of a clean volume booster nothing to color or compress just more of what he's got.

the fralins are wound 10% under in the neck position according to the people with Mike Lull.

Pacomc79

He_Who_Forgets wrote:

the fralins are wound 10% under in the neck position according to the people with Mike Lull.

ah, ok cool, that makes a lot of sense.

Ed runs the hiwatt very hot.

The underwind, gives him less output a not as fat of a midrange. He can run the amp louder without distortion and his articulation and the high end is more preserved. I'd wager the ohms are around 6.7 or 7.5 something like that. He probably plays with a pretty good amount of force too. He likely uses the volume control to roll off for cleans and then rolls it back up for anything distorted.

mccreadyisgod

Pacomc79 wrote:

The underwind, gives him less output a not as fat of a midrange. He can run the amp louder without distortion and his articulation and the high end is more preserved. I'd wager the ohms are around 6.7 or 7.5 something like that. He probably plays with a pretty good amount of force too. He likely uses the volume control to roll off for cleans and then rolls it back up for anything distorted.

I dunno, Pac...

I've got 10%-under neck, 5%-over bridge, and there's plenty of output there. The nice thing is that you can come closer to matching pickup heights with mis-matched output. But anyways... a 10% under in the neck still has a lot of fatness and plenty of mids. And the bridge pickup... (for me, anyways) is perfect.

Pacomc79

mccreadyisgod wrote:

I dunno, Pac...

I've got 10%-under neck, 5%-over bridge, and there's plenty of output there. The nice thing is that you can come closer to matching pickup heights with mis-matched output. But anyways... a 10% under in the neck still has a lot of fatness and plenty of mids. And the bridge pickup... (for me, anyways) is perfect.

of course there is plenty of output and plenty of mids...it's a p-90 I'm speaking of character. at 7 it's at hot single coil out put The 10% underwind allows more useable cleanish tone with more highs. You can sqeeze more volume out before clip It dosen't eliminate the character of the P-90 it just lets more of the highs come through. It's more bell like and articulate.

The 5% overwind is more fat, round and rude.

Pacomc79

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2384&item=7312659969&rd=1

holy crap, here's a tonesmith for you, but it's going to cost some dough.

pariah

Pacomc79 wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2384&item=7312659969&rd=1

holy crap, here's a tonesmith for you, but it's going to cost some dough.

Damn that has to be one of the coolest guitars I've seen in a long time. Curious at what price it'll go.

KillerIsMe

agreed. that thing is 97% badass and 3% wood.

WiLL75

mccreadyisgod wrote:

I dunno, Pac...

I've got 10%-under neck, 5%-over bridge, and there's plenty of output there. The nice thing is that you can come closer to matching pickup heights with mis-matched output. But anyways... a 10% under in the neck still has a lot of fatness and plenty of mids. And the bridge pickup... (for me, anyways) is perfect.

I was just about to re-ask you about your fralin percentages. I assume you're still loving the sound?

mccreadyisgod

WiLL75 wrote:

I was just about to re-ask you about your fralin percentages. I assume you're still loving the sound?

In a word: fuck yeah.

WiLL75

Awesome. I'm so going with Fralins, but I have to see if they'll ship to Canada.