---The First and Only Convicted Felon President: Donald J Trump ---

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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,496




    https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-mandate-myth-175155368.html

    Donald Trump’s Mandate Is a Myth

    Hafiz Rashid
    Mon, November 18, 2024 at 12:51 PM EST
    2 min read
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    Donald Trump and his allies have characterized the 2024 election as an overwhelming victory—and a mandate for shock politics, mass deportations, and the transformation of the country’s foreign and domestic policy. There’s just one problem: They didn’t actually win by much.

    CNN’s Harry Enten reports that Trump is now under 50 percent for the popular vote, and his margin is the forty-fourth worst out of 51 presidential elections since 1824. Four Democrats won Senate seats in states that Trump won (Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada), compared to zero in the 2016 and 2020 elections. And while Republicans held on to their House majority, if results hold, their 221–214 margin will be the smallest majority in the 50-state era.

    Trump’s appointments are not going to help with the House’s Republican majority, with many of Trump’s choices being elected GOP members. These include Representatives Elise Stefanik as his U.N. ambassadorMike Waltz as his national security adviser, and Matt Gaetz (who has already resigned) as his attorney general, among others.

    Republicans will point out that Trump in 2024 became the first GOP presidential candidate to win the popular vote since 2004 and the second since 1988, but he will arrive in office with a narrow majority in the Senate as well—just a three-seat majority if Democratic Senator Bob Casey loses his seat, which he looks likely to.


    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,012
    2023
    One of the lessons in all this that may well prove to be true is, be careful of how you chose.  You might end up with something you really didn't want.


    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,547
    Was Law and Order even a thing back then
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
    2025
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    edited November 20
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Post edited by teskeinc on
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
    2025
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    2023
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    Everything is a projection, Jose. The poster you responded to was the one who brought up “rape fantasies.” 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
    2025
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    Everything is a projection, Jose. The poster you responded to was the one who brought up “rape fantasies.” 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
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    2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
    2025
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
    Just own it it’s like therapy you’ll feel better! Don’t get mad! He barely got 50% of the popular vote..
    always remember me I’m the one 
    WHO DOESN’T VOTE FOR RAPIST! No matter what or how much $$$ they promise to trickle down to us peasants! I’d rather be poor than stand with a piece of 💩💩 like your boy! Have a great day 😀
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,547
    rape kit? for forceable insertion of fingers against her will? seriously?
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  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,131
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
    Even if you don’t believe he’s a rapist, look at the pattern of behaviour. Touching women without consent is sexual assault and he has a long track record of that, even admitting it. 
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    Damn. I always miss these. Hate seeing a post by you with a . Or nvm 😂😂😂
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    Hawk123 said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
    Even if you don’t believe he’s a rapist, look at the pattern of behaviour. Touching women without consent is sexual assault and he has a long track record of that, even admitting it. 
    You would think charges would be filed, trials and convictions and life in prison for a serial rapist? But nope, nothing. It’s a fantasy for TDS Trump haters. 

    If you guys have evidence please submit it. Rape fantasies aren’t admissible as evidence in the court of law.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    2023
    teskeinc said:
    Hawk123 said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
    Even if you don’t believe he’s a rapist, look at the pattern of behaviour. Touching women without consent is sexual assault and he has a long track record of that, even admitting it. 
    You would think charges would be filed, trials and convictions and life in prison for a serial rapist? But nope, nothing. It’s a fantasy for TDS Trump haters. 

    If you guys have evidence please submit it. Rape fantasies aren’t admissible as evidence in the court of law.

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    Just like a typical man! Blame the victims 
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  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,131
    Just like a typical man! Blame the victims 
    Yup, didn’t know we had our very own Andrew Tate on here. But he also hasn’t been convicted as far as I know, so he’s probably a great guy too, right teskeinc?
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,236
    2023
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
    You know he fucking did it. The Access Hollywood tape spells out very succinctly what his method is.

    You chose to ignore all of that and voted for the piece of shit. Who cares...you got what you wanted.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,141
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
    You know he fucking did it. The Access Hollywood tape spells out very succinctly what his method is.

    You chose to ignore all of that and voted for the piece of shit. Who cares...you got what you wanted.
    I’ve said it a few times on here, but Democrats need to realize that character is not a voter’s top issue anymore, and on the Trump side it doesn’t even make the list. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
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    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president 
    President Trump
    Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
    Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian
    collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.

    He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.

    He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
    Literally no evidence, no rape kit. Just told 2 friends after watching a Law & Order episode that had the exact same story from a department store with the exact name. 2 dozen accusers and couldn’t produce any evidence to convict of rape. All that magically came forward when he decided to run for President. What are the odds? It’s a rape fantasy only the TDS radical left believe. He’s not going to jail, when you come to grips with that you will feel better.


    Bullshit spin spin it anyway you want! You voted for a rapist it’s better to just own dude you’ll feel better! I don’t give a fuck if he ever goes to jail what’s in the record books can’t be erased not even if he wanted to use a sharpie to write I’m not a rapist 😃 
    I don’t vote for rapist! 
    Show some evidence on who he raped? You voted for an unqualified DEI loser anointed by Goege Clooney.  #rapefantasy
    Don’t have to it’s all in the court transcript for ever don’t get twisted like I said just own it you voted for a rapist once you do that you’ll feel better! You can look over at your wife or daughter and be proud that you voted for a sexual predator! Enjoy the golden age when women had no voice if a woman got assaulted or raped back in the golden 50’s or 60’s or 70’s they were and still looked at by cops as the ones that are culpable for it! Even today cops look at rape victims as questionable! I know this because my wife is a forensic nurse that collects evidence from rape victims and she deals with cops and detectives processing rape kits.. 
    So no DNA evidence or convictions? Cool. In your fantasies, rapists don’t serve jail time? And can win Presidential elections by a landslide? You should start a new Series ….. maybe A Moving Train SVU. You really have a great imagination and it would make for some really good TV episodes. Maybe contact Dick Wolf the producer and pitch some of these.
    You know he fucking did it. The Access Hollywood tape spells out very succinctly what his method is.

    You chose to ignore all of that and voted for the piece of shit. Who cares...you got what you wanted.
    That’s why most rape victims don’t file reports or want to get police involved! Not only are they victims of a horrible assault but when the detectives or uniformed cops get the cases! Most of the time they are not compassionate or even take them seriously, my wife sees this all the time 1st hand when she interviews victims most just want to forget about it and not file charges! 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,909
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    rape kit? for forceable insertion of fingers against her will? seriously?
    Maybe it could have detected the presence of Big Mac sauce?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,133
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    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,236
    2023
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,133
    The field
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,903
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    I was really holding out hope that Hulk Hogan would get Secretary of Education. Instead it's Vince McMahon's wife. 

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,236
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    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,903
    2023
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    BF25394 said:
    It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

    The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

    If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)
    I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.
    I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.
    I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.
    Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.


    Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

    BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



    I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 
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