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  • 2024
    My guess: guilty with a suspended sentence. No judge is putting a former prez in pridon. 
    maybe not in this case.

    georgia and the documents case, though. just watch.
    Pence testifying in front of Grand Jury in the J6 probe too. Trump has to be scared shitless with all of this stuff going on
    Why would he be scared, seriously? The guy has never been held accountable for a thing in his life. I’m guessing he views this the same way. 
    Because he's never been arrested and criminally indicted before this week. He will likely be arrested and criminally indicted multiple times in the months ahead. You think it's a cake walk for his lawyers balancing multiple criminal indictments at the same time?

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/30/donald-trump-indictment-r-kelly-michael-avenatti-00088097

    I think he's scared. And should be. 
    I think POOTWH knows Weaselberg and others have flipped and that he’s toast. The NYC case is just a peek into its world of dots. Tick tock.
    This is why^^^

    People have literally been saying “he’s toast” or something similar for years. Out Of Our Minds is correct about that. 

    And he’s a narcissist with a god complex. No chance he thinks he’s going down for any of it. 
    He's criminally indicted for the first time in his life right now and will likely be criminally indicted multiple times in short order, Hugh. That's some new shit for him. 

    He's not president anymore. He's in quite a bit of trouble. lol
    I’m aware. But the suggestion was that he’s scared. In his mind, I don’t think he has any reason to be “at this point”. 

    He may face consequences , he may not. But this is FAR from a slam dunk. People need to stop thinking this is “finally it”. This could easily blow up in democrats’ face in an epic way. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    2023
    My guess: guilty with a suspended sentence. No judge is putting a former prez in pridon. 
    maybe not in this case.

    georgia and the documents case, though. just watch.
    Pence testifying in front of Grand Jury in the J6 probe too. Trump has to be scared shitless with all of this stuff going on
    Why would he be scared, seriously? The guy has never been held accountable for a thing in his life. I’m guessing he views this the same way. 
    Because he's never been arrested and criminally indicted before this week. He will likely be arrested and criminally indicted multiple times in the months ahead. You think it's a cake walk for his lawyers balancing multiple criminal indictments at the same time?

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/30/donald-trump-indictment-r-kelly-michael-avenatti-00088097

    I think he's scared. And should be. 
    I think POOTWH knows Weaselberg and others have flipped and that he’s toast. The NYC case is just a peek into its world of dots. Tick tock.
    This is why^^^

    People have literally been saying “he’s toast” or something similar for years. Out Of Our Minds is correct about that. 

    And he’s a narcissist with a god complex. No chance he thinks he’s going down for any of it. 
    He's criminally indicted for the first time in his life right now and will likely be criminally indicted multiple times in short order, Hugh. That's some new shit for him. 

    He's not president anymore. He's in quite a bit of trouble. lol
    I’m aware. But the suggestion was that he’s scared. In his mind, I don’t think he has any reason to be “at this point”. 

    He may face consequences , he may not. But this is FAR from a slam dunk. People need to stop thinking this is “finally it”. This could easily blow up in democrats’ face in an epic way. 
    This NYC case is not the end but the beginning. It gets worse as the individual cases progress. Way worse.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,903
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    2023
    My guess: guilty with a suspended sentence. No judge is putting a former prez in pridon. 
    maybe not in this case.

    georgia and the documents case, though. just watch.
    Pence testifying in front of Grand Jury in the J6 probe too. Trump has to be scared shitless with all of this stuff going on
    Why would he be scared, seriously? The guy has never been held accountable for a thing in his life. I’m guessing he views this the same way. 
    Because he's never been arrested and criminally indicted before this week. He will likely be arrested and criminally indicted multiple times in the months ahead. You think it's a cake walk for his lawyers balancing multiple criminal indictments at the same time?

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/30/donald-trump-indictment-r-kelly-michael-avenatti-00088097

    I think he's scared. And should be. 
    I think POOTWH knows Weaselberg and others have flipped and that he’s toast. The NYC case is just a peek into its world of dots. Tick tock.
    This is why^^^

    People have literally been saying “he’s toast” or something similar for years. Out Of Our Minds is correct about that. 

    And he’s a narcissist with a god complex. No chance he thinks he’s going down for any of it. 
    He's criminally indicted for the first time in his life right now and will likely be criminally indicted multiple times in short order, Hugh. That's some new shit for him. 

    He's not president anymore. He's in quite a bit of trouble. lol
    I’m aware. But the suggestion was that he’s scared. In his mind, I don’t think he has any reason to be “at this point”. 

    He may face consequences , he may not. But this is FAR from a slam dunk. People need to stop thinking this is “finally it”. This could easily blow up in democrats’ face in an epic way. 
    This NYC case is not the end but the beginning. It gets worse as the individual cases progress. Way worse.
    Yeah it is a completely different situation than anything he, or anyone else for that matter, has ever faced. Unchartered waters. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    2023
    My guess: guilty with a suspended sentence. No judge is putting a former prez in pridon. 
    maybe not in this case.

    georgia and the documents case, though. just watch.
    Pence testifying in front of Grand Jury in the J6 probe too. Trump has to be scared shitless with all of this stuff going on
    Why would he be scared, seriously? The guy has never been held accountable for a thing in his life. I’m guessing he views this the same way. 
    Because he's never been arrested and criminally indicted before this week. He will likely be arrested and criminally indicted multiple times in the months ahead. You think it's a cake walk for his lawyers balancing multiple criminal indictments at the same time?

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/30/donald-trump-indictment-r-kelly-michael-avenatti-00088097

    I think he's scared. And should be. 
    I think POOTWH knows Weaselberg and others have flipped and that he’s toast. The NYC case is just a peek into its world of dots. Tick tock.
    This is why^^^

    People have literally been saying “he’s toast” or something similar for years. Out Of Our Minds is correct about that. 

    And he’s a narcissist with a god complex. No chance he thinks he’s going down for any of it. 
    He's criminally indicted for the first time in his life right now and will likely be criminally indicted multiple times in short order, Hugh. That's some new shit for him. 

    He's not president anymore. He's in quite a bit of trouble. lol
    I’m aware. But the suggestion was that he’s scared. In his mind, I don’t think he has any reason to be “at this point”. 

    He may face consequences , he may not. But this is FAR from a slam dunk. People need to stop thinking this is “finally it”. This could easily blow up in democrats’ face in an epic way. 
    This NYC case is not the end but the beginning. It gets worse as the individual cases progress. Way worse.
    Yeah it is a completely different situation than anything he, or anyone else for that matter, has ever faced. Unchartered waters. 
    I fully expect POOTWH to beat the 34 misdemeanors turned into a felony charge. Tax evasion, not so much. Mar-I-Lieo boxes hoax, not so much.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
    2025
    When are these judges going to throw the book at this POS pig! When is the judge going to issue a gag order on him or bring him in and throw him in a cell! Judge receiving threats and even asswipe calling the judge names! Holy damn how long are they going to treat him for what he is a two bit criminal 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    2023
    Sound familiar? Like, anyone you know? Maybe love? Enough to fly a big 'ol flag? Happens all the time. Follow the money.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,903
    2023
    I cannot fathom how insane 2024 is going to be with multiple trials and an election happening at the same time. As insane as the last 8 years have been...next year could be the topper. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
    2025
    I cannot fathom how insane 2024 is going to be with multiple trials and an lo election happening at the same time. As insane as the last 8 years have been...next year could be the topper. 
    Yeah your correct! It’s a scary thought to think things can get a lot worse than this year. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548

    Donald Trump Jr confirms he signed father’s porn star ‘hush money’ check

    In the criminal indictment unsealed on Tuesday, prosecutors allege a check made out to Mr Trump’s former ‘fixer’ Michael Cohen was falsely recorded in the Trump Organization’s business records

    Eric Trump claims 'tens of thousands' of Trump supporters gathered on arraignment day

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    Donald Trump Jr has admitted that he personally signed one of the hush money checks now at the centre of his father’s arrest on criminal charges.

    The former president’s son told right-wing network Newsmax that part of Mr Trump’s indictment on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records refers to his own actions.

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  • 2023
    daddy still will never love him enough.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,081
    mickeyrat said:
    ikiT said:
    My guess: guilty with a suspended sentence. No judge is putting a former prez in pridon. 
    maybe not in this case.

    georgia and the documents case, though. just watch.
    Pence testifying in front of Grand Jury in the J6 probe too. Trump has to be scared shitless with all of this stuff going on
    pence will plead the 5th like a good little fascist that he is.
    You cannot just take the fifth because you don't want to talk. 

    Talking isn't going to open Mike Pence up to SELF incrimination.  There's ONE fish to fry, and his name isn't Mike Pence.

    There's one FLY to fish and it's on Mike Pence's head.
    maybe he will have forgotten everything he has been asked about. if he wanted to testify he would not have been stalling and trying to get out of it all this time. 

    potential candidate cannot piss off the cult, no?
    None of the candidates can, which makes this even more entertaining. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,948
    2023
    About those oil prices and oh, Hunter's laptop. No wonder POOTWH just claimed not to need the banks. At least he's open about it.

    MBS is still loyal, in his way, to the former president who boasted to Bob Woodward, “I saved his ass” after the 2018 murder of Post contributing columnist Jamal Khashoggi. MBS’s sovereign wealth fund has financed the LIV Golf tour that has showcased Trump’s resorts and has put more than $2 billion in an investment firm run by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and former senior adviser.
    Seriously? I should have guessed that Trump and Kushner have their greasy fingers in LIV. It's a such Trumpy kinda thing.

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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,438
    2024
    I cannot fathom how insane 2024 is going to be with multiple trials and an election happening at the same time. As insane as the last 8 years have been...next year could be the topper. 
    It's going to be crazy, to say the least.
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  • treestrees Posts: 1,868
    2023
    benjs said:
    KP_McMinn said:

    Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America:


    “This is Political Persecution and Election Interference at the highest level in history. From the time I came down the golden escalator at Trump Tower, and even before I was sworn in as your President of the United States, the Radical Left Democrats - the enemy of the hard-working men and women of this Country - have been engaged in a Witch-Hunt to destroy the Make America Great Again movement. You remember it just like I do: Russia, Russia, Russia; the Mueller Hoax; Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine; Impeachment Hoax 1; Impeachment Hoax 2; the illegal and unconstitutional Mar-a-Lago raid; and now this.

    “The Democrats have lied, cheated and stolen in their obsession with trying to ‘Get Trump,’ but now they’ve done the unthinkable - indicting a completely innocent person in an act of blatant Election Interference.

    "Never before in our Nation’s history has this been done. The Democrats have cheated countless times over the decades, including spying on my campaign, but weaponizing our justice system to punish a political opponent, who just so happens to be a President of the United States and by far the leading Republican candidate for President, has never happened before. Ever.

    “Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg, who was hand-picked and funded by George Soros, is a disgrace. Rather than stopping the unprecedented crime wave taking over New York City, he’s doing Joe Biden’s dirty work, ignoring the murders and burglaries and assaults he should be focused on. This is how Bragg spends his time!

    “I believe this Witch-Hunt will backfire massively on Joe Biden. The American people realize exactly what the Radical Left Democrats are doing here. Everyone can see it. So our Movement, and our Party - united and strong - will first defeat Alvin Bragg, and then we will defeat Joe Biden, and we are going to throw every last one of these Crooked Democrats out of office so we can MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

    Donald John Trump
    Thanks for posting this everywhere, KP. It's nice to be reminded of how this weasel is squirming.
    It's so clear buy his language. That he is on the hot seat to jail we hope 


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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    2023
    My guess: guilty with a suspended sentence. No judge is putting a former prez in pridon. 
    maybe not in this case.

    georgia and the documents case, though. just watch.
    Pence testifying in front of Grand Jury in the J6 probe too. Trump has to be scared shitless with all of this stuff going on
    Why would he be scared, seriously? The guy has never been held accountable for a thing in his life. I’m guessing he views this the same way. 
    Because he's never been arrested and criminally indicted before this week. He will likely be arrested and criminally indicted multiple times in the months ahead. You think it's a cake walk for his lawyers balancing multiple criminal indictments at the same time?

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/30/donald-trump-indictment-r-kelly-michael-avenatti-00088097

    I think he's scared. And should be. 
    I think POOTWH knows Weaselberg and others have flipped and that he’s toast. The NYC case is just a peek into its world of dots. Tick tock.
    This is why^^^

    People have literally been saying “he’s toast” or something similar for years. Out Of Our Minds is correct about that. 

    And he’s a narcissist with a god complex. No chance he thinks he’s going down for any of it. 
    Twice impeached and a subverted Team Mueller, plus long standing DOJ policy not to prosecute a sitting POTUS. Should have been toast three times. Chickens coming home to roost now, karma, whatever. Shit takes time and things are moving along. Its a wee little different in 2023 versus 2016-17, 2018 and 2020, no? Mazars, tax returns, Weasleberg, Jack Mack and the Heart Attacks because of Mar-I-Lieo and POOTWH's god complex, 1/6, Georgia SoS and the "perfect" phone call, all a little different than that russia, russia, russia collusion hoax, right?
    You’ve been saying it’s the end for him for about 5 years. 
    It should have been the end of him for five years. There was a shit ton of fuckery that took place to deny justice.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    2023
    PJ_Soul said:
    About those oil prices and oh, Hunter's laptop. No wonder POOTWH just claimed not to need the banks. At least he's open about it.

    MBS is still loyal, in his way, to the former president who boasted to Bob Woodward, “I saved his ass” after the 2018 murder of Post contributing columnist Jamal Khashoggi. MBS’s sovereign wealth fund has financed the LIV Golf tour that has showcased Trump’s resorts and has put more than $2 billion in an investment firm run by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and former senior adviser.
    Seriously? I should have guessed that Trump and Kushner have their greasy fingers in LIV. It's a such Trumpy kinda thing.

    Jared Dear Boy is not part of LIV. He’s got the $2B investment fund funded from the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund despite no previous institutional investment experience and gets $25M per year guaranteed as salary regardless of the fund’s performance. Sure, nothing was exchanged for that deal.

    But Hunter’s laptop. Have you heard about Hunter’s laptop?
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    PJ_Soul said:
    About those oil prices and oh, Hunter's laptop. No wonder POOTWH just claimed not to need the banks. At least he's open about it.

    MBS is still loyal, in his way, to the former president who boasted to Bob Woodward, “I saved his ass” after the 2018 murder of Post contributing columnist Jamal Khashoggi. MBS’s sovereign wealth fund has financed the LIV Golf tour that has showcased Trump’s resorts and has put more than $2 billion in an investment firm run by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and former senior adviser.
    Seriously? I should have guessed that Trump and Kushner have their greasy fingers in LIV. It's a such Trumpy kinda thing.

    Jared Dear Boy is not part of LIV. He’s got the $2B investment fund funded from the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund despite no previous institutional investment experience and gets $25M per year guaranteed as salary regardless of the fund’s performance. Sure, nothing was exchanged for that deal.

    But Hunter’s laptop. Have you heard about Hunter’s laptop?

    no but LIV IS using some of fucksticks courses. Which he desperately needed since PGA told him to pound sand after J6.....
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,081
    And the Saudi government has invested $2 billion in the LIV tour. 🤔🤔

    Can’t wait to hear more about the “Biden crime family” 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    2023
    And the Saudi government has invested $2 billion in the LIV tour. 🤔🤔

    Can’t wait to hear more about the “Biden crime family” 
    It all starts with Hunter's laptop. Get that out there and they're all going down. Brandon, Hillary, Obama, Bill, Carter, all of them.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    2023
    Queue the second warrant. Hey, happens all the time. I look forward to its day in court. You know, to clear up the misunderstanding.

    The application for court approval for that search said agents were pursuing evidence of violations of statutes including 18 U.S.C. 1519, which makes it a crime to alter, destroy, mutilate or conceal a document or tangible object “with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency.”

    A key element in most obstruction cases is intent, because to bring such a charge, prosecutors have to be able to show that whatever actions were taken were performed to try to hinder or block an investigation. In the Trump case, prosecutors and federal agents are trying to gather any evidence pointing to the motivation for Trump’s actions.

    The Washington Post reported in October that Trump’s valet, Walt Nauta, had told investigators that he moved boxes at Mar-a-Lago at the former president’s instruction after the subpoena was issued. Smith’s team has video surveillance footage corroborating that account, The Post reported, and considers the evidence significant.

    In addition, the people familiar with the investigation said, authorities have another category of evidence that they consider particularly helpful as they reconstruct events from last spring: emails and texts of Molly Michael, an assistant to the former president who followed him from the White House to Florida before she eventually left that job last year. Michael’s written communications have provided investigators with a detailed understanding of the day-to-day activity at Mar-a-Lago at critical moments, these people said.




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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,447

    “It’s All About Trump’s Election Criminality

    The details of the various investigations are complicated, but the thread connecting them is easy to understand

    You don’t have to closely track the minutiae of the legal developments in each of the investigations to understand what it’s all about. It’s okay if they blur together in your mind. In fact, that might be helpful in seeing the big picture, the unprecedented nature of the threat Trump poses.

    See, at the broadest level, the Manhattan district attorney’s indictment of Trump regards the same subject as the ongoing investigation by the Fulton County district attorney in Georgia and one of the investigations now being led by the special counsel in the Department of Justice. In fact, the case even strikes the same theme as the Mueller investigation and both of Trump’s impeachments.

    What would that be? Election criminality. That’s the throughline of most of Trump’s corruption since 2016. He covered up hush money to his mistresses, made overtures to Russia “if you’re listening,” held up funding for Ukraine, put the squeeze on Georgia election officials to “find the votes,” and incited the January 6th insurrection all in pursuit of the same goal: to win presidential elections—and then, when he lost in 2020, to overturn the results…”

  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,633
    My guess: guilty with a suspended sentence. No judge is putting a former prez in pridon. 
    maybe not in this case.

    georgia and the documents case, though. just watch.
    Pence testifying in front of Grand Jury in the J6 probe too. Trump has to be scared shitless with all of this stuff going on
    Why would he be scared, seriously? The guy has never been held accountable for a thing in his life. I’m guessing he views this the same way. 
    Because he's never been arrested and criminally indicted before this week. He will likely be arrested and criminally indicted multiple times in the months ahead. You think it's a cake walk for his lawyers balancing multiple criminal indictments at the same time?

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/30/donald-trump-indictment-r-kelly-michael-avenatti-00088097

    I think he's scared. And should be. 
    I think POOTWH knows Weaselberg and others have flipped and that he’s toast. The NYC case is just a peek into its world of dots. Tick tock.
    This is why^^^

    People have literally been saying “he’s toast” or something similar for years. Out Of Our Minds is correct about that. 

    And he’s a narcissist with a god complex. No chance he thinks he’s going down for any of it. 
    He's criminally indicted for the first time in his life right now and will likely be criminally indicted multiple times in short order, Hugh. That's some new shit for him. 

    He's not president anymore. He's in quite a bit of trouble. lol
    I’m aware. But the suggestion was that he’s scared. In his mind, I don’t think he has any reason to be “at this point”. 

    He may face consequences , he may not. But this is FAR from a slam dunk. People need to stop thinking this is “finally it”. This could easily blow up in democrats’ face in an epic way. 


    Although you are right anything could backfire but what should the DA do, ignore a clear crime? Legally it appears there is an irrefutable crime here.

     If trumps argument prevails, that he did this for personal reasons, then he is screwed for lying to conspire to commit tax fraud, by calling the bribe “legal fees” to deduct on his business taxes. If not for personal reasons, then it’s an illegal contribution to his campaign because the campaign benefitted by stormy keeping quiet. Either way, it’s a crime, despite the confusion expressed by some posters here.

    This gets complicated for trump if the Fulton DA and special prosecutor smith have the same backbone as Bragg.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,013
    2023

    “It’s All About Trump’s Election Criminality

    The details of the various investigations are complicated, but the thread connecting them is easy to understand

    You don’t have to closely track the minutiae of the legal developments in each of the investigations to understand what it’s all about. It’s okay if they blur together in your mind. In fact, that might be helpful in seeing the big picture, the unprecedented nature of the threat Trump poses.

    See, at the broadest level, the Manhattan district attorney’s indictment of Trump regards the same subject as the ongoing investigation by the Fulton County district attorney in Georgia and one of the investigations now being led by the special counsel in the Department of Justice. In fact, the case even strikes the same theme as the Mueller investigation and both of Trump’s impeachments.

    What would that be? Election criminality. That’s the throughline of most of Trump’s corruption since 2016. He covered up hush money to his mistresses, made overtures to Russia “if you’re listening,” held up funding for Ukraine, put the squeeze on Georgia election officials to “find the votes,” and incited the January 6th insurrection all in pursuit of the same goal: to win presidential elections—and then, when he lost in 2020, to overturn the results…”


    "Election criminality"- that makes good sense.  The courts won't see it that way, of course, but hopefully all of his various crimes will lead to his downfall once and for all.  Sadly, his minions will continue to blather on about what a great hero is to them.  That anyone could find that to be so is mighty perplexing.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
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    brianlux said:

    “It’s All About Trump’s Election Criminality

    The details of the various investigations are complicated, but the thread connecting them is easy to understand

    You don’t have to closely track the minutiae of the legal developments in each of the investigations to understand what it’s all about. It’s okay if they blur together in your mind. In fact, that might be helpful in seeing the big picture, the unprecedented nature of the threat Trump poses.

    See, at the broadest level, the Manhattan district attorney’s indictment of Trump regards the same subject as the ongoing investigation by the Fulton County district attorney in Georgia and one of the investigations now being led by the special counsel in the Department of Justice. In fact, the case even strikes the same theme as the Mueller investigation and both of Trump’s impeachments.

    What would that be? Election criminality. That’s the throughline of most of Trump’s corruption since 2016. He covered up hush money to his mistresses, made overtures to Russia “if you’re listening,” held up funding for Ukraine, put the squeeze on Georgia election officials to “find the votes,” and incited the January 6th insurrection all in pursuit of the same goal: to win presidential elections—and then, when he lost in 2020, to overturn the results…”


    "Election criminality"- that makes good sense.  The courts won't see it that way, of course, but hopefully all of his various crimes will lead to his downfall once and for all.  Sadly, his minions will continue to blather on about what a great hero is to them.  That anyone could find that to be so is mighty perplexing.
    As one MAGA I saw on TV describing him as the strongest president of all time! 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,013
    2023
    brianlux said:

    “It’s All About Trump’s Election Criminality

    The details of the various investigations are complicated, but the thread connecting them is easy to understand

    You don’t have to closely track the minutiae of the legal developments in each of the investigations to understand what it’s all about. It’s okay if they blur together in your mind. In fact, that might be helpful in seeing the big picture, the unprecedented nature of the threat Trump poses.

    See, at the broadest level, the Manhattan district attorney’s indictment of Trump regards the same subject as the ongoing investigation by the Fulton County district attorney in Georgia and one of the investigations now being led by the special counsel in the Department of Justice. In fact, the case even strikes the same theme as the Mueller investigation and both of Trump’s impeachments.

    What would that be? Election criminality. That’s the throughline of most of Trump’s corruption since 2016. He covered up hush money to his mistresses, made overtures to Russia “if you’re listening,” held up funding for Ukraine, put the squeeze on Georgia election officials to “find the votes,” and incited the January 6th insurrection all in pursuit of the same goal: to win presidential elections—and then, when he lost in 2020, to overturn the results…”


    "Election criminality"- that makes good sense.  The courts won't see it that way, of course, but hopefully all of his various crimes will lead to his downfall once and for all.  Sadly, his minions will continue to blather on about what a great hero is to them.  That anyone could find that to be so is mighty perplexing.
    As one MAGA I saw on TV describing him as the strongest president of all time! 

    Kind of like the way rotting fish has a strong odor, right?  :lol:
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,013
    2023
    One recent poll shows "Among Republicans, 73% think the one-term, twice-impeached, criminally charged former president has had a positive impact on the Republican party."  How can so many people people that?


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
    2025
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:

    “It’s All About Trump’s Election Criminality

    The details of the various investigations are complicated, but the thread connecting them is easy to understand

    You don’t have to closely track the minutiae of the legal developments in each of the investigations to understand what it’s all about. It’s okay if they blur together in your mind. In fact, that might be helpful in seeing the big picture, the unprecedented nature of the threat Trump poses.

    See, at the broadest level, the Manhattan district attorney’s indictment of Trump regards the same subject as the ongoing investigation by the Fulton County district attorney in Georgia and one of the investigations now being led by the special counsel in the Department of Justice. In fact, the case even strikes the same theme as the Mueller investigation and both of Trump’s impeachments.

    What would that be? Election criminality. That’s the throughline of most of Trump’s corruption since 2016. He covered up hush money to his mistresses, made overtures to Russia “if you’re listening,” held up funding for Ukraine, put the squeeze on Georgia election officials to “find the votes,” and incited the January 6th insurrection all in pursuit of the same goal: to win presidential elections—and then, when he lost in 2020, to overturn the results…”


    "Election criminality"- that makes good sense.  The courts won't see it that way, of course, but hopefully all of his various crimes will lead to his downfall once and for all.  Sadly, his minions will continue to blather on about what a great hero is to them.  That anyone could find that to be so is mighty perplexing.
    As one MAGA I saw on TV describing him as the strongest president of all time! 

    Kind of like the way rotting fish has a strong odor, right?  :lol:
    I bet he smells a bit worse 😂😂
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,447
    brianlux said:
    One recent poll shows "Among Republicans, 73% think the one-term, twice-impeached, criminally charged former president has had a positive impact on the Republican party."  How can so many people people that?


    He hates all the right people. 
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