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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,013
    Trump is too old & his mental state is diminished. He’s a convicted felon, an adjudicated sex offender, and has proven he can’t be trusted w/ our nation’s secrets.  

    He’s not fit to be president. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,035
    2023
    Trump is too old & his mental state is diminished. He’s a convicted felon, an adjudicated sex offender, and has proven he can’t be trusted w/ our nation’s secrets.  

    He’s not fit to be president. 
    but!!


    But!!!!!!










    he's a good businessman!!
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,312
    Trump is too old & his mental state is diminished. He’s a convicted felon, an adjudicated sex offender, and has proven he can’t be trusted w/ our nation’s secrets.  

    He’s not fit to be president. 
    Yeah but Kamala Harris dated Willie Brown 25 years ago.  And she has a weird laugh, so I'm told.  Put me down as "undecided". 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,970
    The field
    Trump is too old & his mental state is diminished. He’s a convicted felon, an adjudicated sex offender, and has proven he can’t be trusted w/ our nation’s secrets.  

    He’s not fit to be president. 
    but!!


    But!!!!!!










    he's a good businessman!!
    Or, at least, he played one on The Apprentice.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,197
    2023
    When is POOTWH stepping down? When are repubs going to admit they’ve been lying to the ‘Murican people and atone for the sin of nominating an unhealthy, old, demented, narcissistic sociopathic child rapist by calling for him to step down?

    Trump’s age and health under renewed scrutiny after Biden’s exit

    As president, Donald Trump released a report that experts said showed he had heart disease and was obese. But as a candidate, he has refused to release bloodwork results, his weight or other key information.

    After weeks of intense focus on President Biden’s health and age that ended with his withdrawal from the campaign on Sunday, the script has flipped: Former president Donald Trump is now the oldest presidential candidate in history — and one who has been less transparent about his medical condition than his former opponent.

    Trump, a 78-year-old with a history of heart disease and obesity, according to experts, has not shared any updated bloodwork results or other specific information during this campaign to help experts assess his ongoing medical risks.

    Instead, he has released a vague, three-paragraph letter from his primary care physician, Bruce A. Aronwald, who wrote in November that the former president was in excellent physical and mental health, and who later said in a statement released by campaign officials to The Washington Post that “there is no need for President Trump to release another medical report in addition to the one he recently made public.”

    Seven days after the attempted assassination against him on July 13, Trump released a letter from his former White House physician, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.), who described treating a two-centimeter-wide wound to Trump’s right ear and said he had a CT scan of his head and other tests but did not release the results. Jackson said in the letter that Trump was initially treated by the medical staff at Butler Memorial Hospital in Butler, Pa., and that he saw the former president later that night at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. Jackson, who is one of Trump’s most loyal supporters, did not respond to a request for comment. A hospital spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment.

    Jackson has previously said that Trump aced a cognitive test when he was president, but those results also have not been released.

    Now, instead of facing an 81-year-old candidate whose mental and physical health were questioned after a disastrous debate in June, Trump’s opponent is most likely to be Vice President Harris, a 59-year-old with no publicly disclosed health issues. Harris has not released a detailed medical report as vice president. The White House and her campaign did not immediately respond to questions from The Post about whether she would do so as a presidential candidate.

    The age of presidential candidateshas been a key issue for voters this year. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll, conducted before last week’s Republican convention, found that 60 percent of Americans said Trump is too old for another term as president, including 82 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents and 29 percent of Republicans. Before Biden dropped out of the race, many Democrats bristled at what they argued was an unfair critical focus on his age compared to Trump.

    A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    There is no requirement for presidential candidates to release medical records, and they would have to agree to waive privacy laws to enable a physician to do so. But medical experts said that given Trump’s age and the previous emphasis on health in the race, voters would benefit if everyone in the race were transparent with their doctors’ findings.

    “It would take away the fear that someone has an issue that is not being disclosed because they know if might affect their candidacy,” Ira Monka, president of the American Osteopathic Association, said in an interview before Biden’s withdrawal, referring to both him and Trump. “This is the highest office in the world so we want to have complete openness as much as possible. If the candidates would agree on that, I think the public would be very happy.”

    Trump has a mixed history of releasing medical information. In 2015, during his first run for the White House, he said he instructed his doctor, Harold Bornstein, to release “a full medical report” and promised “it will show perfection.” Bornstein did not release Trump’s records, but instead issued a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein, who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter.”

    In September 2016, Trump released another letter from Bornstein that included more information and concluded that Trump was “in excellent physical health.”

    One of the most detailed releases about Trump’s health came during his presidency in 2018, when Jackson appeared at the White House press room podium and provided details that included a CT scan showing Trump’s coronary calcium score was 133, up from 34 in 2009. At the time, CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, and other experts said the score indicated that Trump had heart disease.

    The letter also said Trump weighed 239 pounds, making him borderline obese. The following two years, Trump’s doctors revealed that his weight had increased to 243 and then 244 pounds, making him obese under government standards.

    But no such details have been released since Trump left the White House. After losing his reelection bid, Trump has relied on Aronwald, a doctor of osteopathic medicine who is a member of Trump’s Bedminster golf course and runs a private “concierge” practice that caters to high-income patients. Aronwald declined to speak to a Post reporter who in April visited his office in Morristown, N.J. He has never spoken publicly about Trump’s condition.

    The letter Aronwald released on Nov. 20 did not include specific results such as blood pressure or weight. Nor did it disclose Trump’s medications. Instead, it was filled with superlatives, saying Trump was in “excellent health” and had “exceptional” cognitive ability. It said without providing any numbers that Trump had “reduced his weight.” It said his cardiovascular studies were normal.

    Trump has said he twice “aced” cognitive tests, but he has not released them and has not said if he has taken one since 2018. Ziad Nasreddine, the neurologist who created the test, told The Post earlier this year that a six-year-old test would be too outdated to be relevant. He said that a candidate who is Trump’s age should take regular cognitive tests and publicly release the results.

    Some experts previously told The Post that Trump could face an elevated genetic risk of dementia. Trump has said that his father was “addled with Alzheimer’s,” which specialists said could increase Trump’s chances of inheriting the gene that can cause the disease. When Trump turned 50, he told Playboy magazine that watching his father face cognitive problems had a profound effect on him.

    “Turning 50 does make you think about mortality, or immortality, or whatever,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/trump-age-health/

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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,292
    Apparently, a lot of Americans thought that 81-year-old Joe Biden was too old to be president. Note to those Americans: if you elect Donald Trump, he'll turn 82 while in office.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,316
    BF25394 said:
    Apparently, a lot of Americans thought that 81-year-old Joe Biden was too old to be president. Note to those Americans: if you elect Donald Trump, he'll turn 82 while in office.
    Yup, both too old.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,135
    2025
    When is POOTWH stepping down? When are repubs going to admit they’ve been lying to the ‘Murican people and atone for the sin of nominating an unhealthy, old, demented, narcissistic sociopathic child rapist by calling for him to step down?

    Trump’s age and health under renewed scrutiny after Biden’s exit

    As president, Donald Trump released a report that experts said showed he had heart disease and was obese. But as a candidate, he has refused to release bloodwork results, his weight or other key information.

    After weeks of intense focus on President Biden’s health and age that ended with his withdrawal from the campaign on Sunday, the script has flipped: Former president Donald Trump is now the oldest presidential candidate in history — and one who has been less transparent about his medical condition than his former opponent.

    Trump, a 78-year-old with a history of heart disease and obesity, according to experts, has not shared any updated bloodwork results or other specific information during this campaign to help experts assess his ongoing medical risks.

    Instead, he has released a vague, three-paragraph letter from his primary care physician, Bruce A. Aronwald, who wrote in November that the former president was in excellent physical and mental health, and who later said in a statement released by campaign officials to The Washington Post that “there is no need for President Trump to release another medical report in addition to the one he recently made public.”

    Seven days after the attempted assassination against him on July 13, Trump released a letter from his former White House physician, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.), who described treating a two-centimeter-wide wound to Trump’s right ear and said he had a CT scan of his head and other tests but did not release the results. Jackson said in the letter that Trump was initially treated by the medical staff at Butler Memorial Hospital in Butler, Pa., and that he saw the former president later that night at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. Jackson, who is one of Trump’s most loyal supporters, did not respond to a request for comment. A hospital spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment.

    Jackson has previously said that Trump aced a cognitive test when he was president, but those results also have not been released.

    Now, instead of facing an 81-year-old candidate whose mental and physical health were questioned after a disastrous debate in June, Trump’s opponent is most likely to be Vice President Harris, a 59-year-old with no publicly disclosed health issues. Harris has not released a detailed medical report as vice president. The White House and her campaign did not immediately respond to questions from The Post about whether she would do so as a presidential candidate.

    The age of presidential candidateshas been a key issue for voters this year. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll, conducted before last week’s Republican convention, found that 60 percent of Americans said Trump is too old for another term as president, including 82 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents and 29 percent of Republicans. Before Biden dropped out of the race, many Democrats bristled at what they argued was an unfair critical focus on his age compared to Trump.

    A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    There is no requirement for presidential candidates to release medical records, and they would have to agree to waive privacy laws to enable a physician to do so. But medical experts said that given Trump’s age and the previous emphasis on health in the race, voters would benefit if everyone in the race were transparent with their doctors’ findings.

    “It would take away the fear that someone has an issue that is not being disclosed because they know if might affect their candidacy,” Ira Monka, president of the American Osteopathic Association, said in an interview before Biden’s withdrawal, referring to both him and Trump. “This is the highest office in the world so we want to have complete openness as much as possible. If the candidates would agree on that, I think the public would be very happy.”

    Trump has a mixed history of releasing medical information. In 2015, during his first run for the White House, he said he instructed his doctor, Harold Bornstein, to release “a full medical report” and promised “it will show perfection.” Bornstein did not release Trump’s records, but instead issued a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein, who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter.”

    In September 2016, Trump released another letter from Bornstein that included more information and concluded that Trump was “in excellent physical health.”

    One of the most detailed releases about Trump’s health came during his presidency in 2018, when Jackson appeared at the White House press room podium and provided details that included a CT scan showing Trump’s coronary calcium score was 133, up from 34 in 2009. At the time, CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, and other experts said the score indicated that Trump had heart disease.

    The letter also said Trump weighed 239 pounds, making him borderline obese. The following two years, Trump’s doctors revealed that his weight had increased to 243 and then 244 pounds, making him obese under government standards.

    But no such details have been released since Trump left the White House. After losing his reelection bid, Trump has relied on Aronwald, a doctor of osteopathic medicine who is a member of Trump’s Bedminster golf course and runs a private “concierge” practice that caters to high-income patients. Aronwald declined to speak to a Post reporter who in April visited his office in Morristown, N.J. He has never spoken publicly about Trump’s condition.

    The letter Aronwald released on Nov. 20 did not include specific results such as blood pressure or weight. Nor did it disclose Trump’s medications. Instead, it was filled with superlatives, saying Trump was in “excellent health” and had “exceptional” cognitive ability. It said without providing any numbers that Trump had “reduced his weight.” It said his cardiovascular studies were normal.

    Trump has said he twice “aced” cognitive tests, but he has not released them and has not said if he has taken one since 2018. Ziad Nasreddine, the neurologist who created the test, told The Post earlier this year that a six-year-old test would be too outdated to be relevant. He said that a candidate who is Trump’s age should take regular cognitive tests and publicly release the results.

    Some experts previously told The Post that Trump could face an elevated genetic risk of dementia. Trump has said that his father was “addled with Alzheimer’s,” which specialists said could increase Trump’s chances of inheriting the gene that can cause the disease. When Trump turned 50, he told Playboy magazine that watching his father face cognitive problems had a profound effect on him.

    “Turning 50 does make you think about mortality, or immortality, or whatever,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/trump-age-health/

    Tub of lard has always hidden everything about his medical history the only thing he doesn’t hide is the fact that he’s a racist POS human! He has already started name calling KH 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,624
    2023
    Trump is too old & his mental state is diminished. He’s a convicted felon, an adjudicated sex offender, and has proven he can’t be trusted w/ our nation’s secrets.  

    He’s not fit to be president. 
    but!!


    But!!!!!!










    he's a good businessman!!
    I remind myself of this every time I enjoy a Trump steak and a glass of Trump vodka while flying on the Trump Shuttle for a getaway from Trump University to the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,408
    2023
    When is POOTWH stepping down? When are repubs going to admit they’ve been lying to the ‘Murican people and atone for the sin of nominating an unhealthy, old, demented, narcissistic sociopathic child rapist by calling for him to step down?

    Trump’s age and health under renewed scrutiny after Biden’s exit

    As president, Donald Trump released a report that experts said showed he had heart disease and was obese. But as a candidate, he has refused to release bloodwork results, his weight or other key information.

    After weeks of intense focus on President Biden’s health and age that ended with his withdrawal from the campaign on Sunday, the script has flipped: Former president Donald Trump is now the oldest presidential candidate in history — and one who has been less transparent about his medical condition than his former opponent.

    Trump, a 78-year-old with a history of heart disease and obesity, according to experts, has not shared any updated bloodwork results or other specific information during this campaign to help experts assess his ongoing medical risks.

    Instead, he has released a vague, three-paragraph letter from his primary care physician, Bruce A. Aronwald, who wrote in November that the former president was in excellent physical and mental health, and who later said in a statement released by campaign officials to The Washington Post that “there is no need for President Trump to release another medical report in addition to the one he recently made public.”

    Seven days after the attempted assassination against him on July 13, Trump released a letter from his former White House physician, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.), who described treating a two-centimeter-wide wound to Trump’s right ear and said he had a CT scan of his head and other tests but did not release the results. Jackson said in the letter that Trump was initially treated by the medical staff at Butler Memorial Hospital in Butler, Pa., and that he saw the former president later that night at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. Jackson, who is one of Trump’s most loyal supporters, did not respond to a request for comment. A hospital spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment.

    Jackson has previously said that Trump aced a cognitive test when he was president, but those results also have not been released.

    Now, instead of facing an 81-year-old candidate whose mental and physical health were questioned after a disastrous debate in June, Trump’s opponent is most likely to be Vice President Harris, a 59-year-old with no publicly disclosed health issues. Harris has not released a detailed medical report as vice president. The White House and her campaign did not immediately respond to questions from The Post about whether she would do so as a presidential candidate.

    The age of presidential candidateshas been a key issue for voters this year. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll, conducted before last week’s Republican convention, found that 60 percent of Americans said Trump is too old for another term as president, including 82 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents and 29 percent of Republicans. Before Biden dropped out of the race, many Democrats bristled at what they argued was an unfair critical focus on his age compared to Trump.

    A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    There is no requirement for presidential candidates to release medical records, and they would have to agree to waive privacy laws to enable a physician to do so. But medical experts said that given Trump’s age and the previous emphasis on health in the race, voters would benefit if everyone in the race were transparent with their doctors’ findings.

    “It would take away the fear that someone has an issue that is not being disclosed because they know if might affect their candidacy,” Ira Monka, president of the American Osteopathic Association, said in an interview before Biden’s withdrawal, referring to both him and Trump. “This is the highest office in the world so we want to have complete openness as much as possible. If the candidates would agree on that, I think the public would be very happy.”

    Trump has a mixed history of releasing medical information. In 2015, during his first run for the White House, he said he instructed his doctor, Harold Bornstein, to release “a full medical report” and promised “it will show perfection.” Bornstein did not release Trump’s records, but instead issued a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein, who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter.”

    In September 2016, Trump released another letter from Bornstein that included more information and concluded that Trump was “in excellent physical health.”

    One of the most detailed releases about Trump’s health came during his presidency in 2018, when Jackson appeared at the White House press room podium and provided details that included a CT scan showing Trump’s coronary calcium score was 133, up from 34 in 2009. At the time, CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, and other experts said the score indicated that Trump had heart disease.

    The letter also said Trump weighed 239 pounds, making him borderline obese. The following two years, Trump’s doctors revealed that his weight had increased to 243 and then 244 pounds, making him obese under government standards.

    But no such details have been released since Trump left the White House. After losing his reelection bid, Trump has relied on Aronwald, a doctor of osteopathic medicine who is a member of Trump’s Bedminster golf course and runs a private “concierge” practice that caters to high-income patients. Aronwald declined to speak to a Post reporter who in April visited his office in Morristown, N.J. He has never spoken publicly about Trump’s condition.

    The letter Aronwald released on Nov. 20 did not include specific results such as blood pressure or weight. Nor did it disclose Trump’s medications. Instead, it was filled with superlatives, saying Trump was in “excellent health” and had “exceptional” cognitive ability. It said without providing any numbers that Trump had “reduced his weight.” It said his cardiovascular studies were normal.

    Trump has said he twice “aced” cognitive tests, but he has not released them and has not said if he has taken one since 2018. Ziad Nasreddine, the neurologist who created the test, told The Post earlier this year that a six-year-old test would be too outdated to be relevant. He said that a candidate who is Trump’s age should take regular cognitive tests and publicly release the results.

    Some experts previously told The Post that Trump could face an elevated genetic risk of dementia. Trump has said that his father was “addled with Alzheimer’s,” which specialists said could increase Trump’s chances of inheriting the gene that can cause the disease. When Trump turned 50, he told Playboy magazine that watching his father face cognitive problems had a profound effect on him.

    “Turning 50 does make you think about mortality, or immortality, or whatever,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/trump-age-health/

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,312
    When is POOTWH stepping down? When are repubs going to admit they’ve been lying to the ‘Murican people and atone for the sin of nominating an unhealthy, old, demented, narcissistic sociopathic child rapist by calling for him to step down?

    Trump’s age and health under renewed scrutiny after Biden’s exit

    As president, Donald Trump released a report that experts said showed he had heart disease and was obese. But as a candidate, he has refused to release bloodwork results, his weight or other key information.

    After weeks of intense focus on President Biden’s health and age that ended with his withdrawal from the campaign on Sunday, the script has flipped: Former president Donald Trump is now the oldest presidential candidate in history — and one who has been less transparent about his medical condition than his former opponent.

    Trump, a 78-year-old with a history of heart disease and obesity, according to experts, has not shared any updated bloodwork results or other specific information during this campaign to help experts assess his ongoing medical risks.

    Instead, he has released a vague, three-paragraph letter from his primary care physician, Bruce A. Aronwald, who wrote in November that the former president was in excellent physical and mental health, and who later said in a statement released by campaign officials to The Washington Post that “there is no need for President Trump to release another medical report in addition to the one he recently made public.”

    Seven days after the attempted assassination against him on July 13, Trump released a letter from his former White House physician, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.), who described treating a two-centimeter-wide wound to Trump’s right ear and said he had a CT scan of his head and other tests but did not release the results. Jackson said in the letter that Trump was initially treated by the medical staff at Butler Memorial Hospital in Butler, Pa., and that he saw the former president later that night at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. Jackson, who is one of Trump’s most loyal supporters, did not respond to a request for comment. A hospital spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment.

    Jackson has previously said that Trump aced a cognitive test when he was president, but those results also have not been released.

    Now, instead of facing an 81-year-old candidate whose mental and physical health were questioned after a disastrous debate in June, Trump’s opponent is most likely to be Vice President Harris, a 59-year-old with no publicly disclosed health issues. Harris has not released a detailed medical report as vice president. The White House and her campaign did not immediately respond to questions from The Post about whether she would do so as a presidential candidate.

    The age of presidential candidateshas been a key issue for voters this year. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll, conducted before last week’s Republican convention, found that 60 percent of Americans said Trump is too old for another term as president, including 82 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents and 29 percent of Republicans. Before Biden dropped out of the race, many Democrats bristled at what they argued was an unfair critical focus on his age compared to Trump.

    A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    There is no requirement for presidential candidates to release medical records, and they would have to agree to waive privacy laws to enable a physician to do so. But medical experts said that given Trump’s age and the previous emphasis on health in the race, voters would benefit if everyone in the race were transparent with their doctors’ findings.

    “It would take away the fear that someone has an issue that is not being disclosed because they know if might affect their candidacy,” Ira Monka, president of the American Osteopathic Association, said in an interview before Biden’s withdrawal, referring to both him and Trump. “This is the highest office in the world so we want to have complete openness as much as possible. If the candidates would agree on that, I think the public would be very happy.”

    Trump has a mixed history of releasing medical information. In 2015, during his first run for the White House, he said he instructed his doctor, Harold Bornstein, to release “a full medical report” and promised “it will show perfection.” Bornstein did not release Trump’s records, but instead issued a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein, who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter.”

    In September 2016, Trump released another letter from Bornstein that included more information and concluded that Trump was “in excellent physical health.”

    One of the most detailed releases about Trump’s health came during his presidency in 2018, when Jackson appeared at the White House press room podium and provided details that included a CT scan showing Trump’s coronary calcium score was 133, up from 34 in 2009. At the time, CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, and other experts said the score indicated that Trump had heart disease.

    The letter also said Trump weighed 239 pounds, making him borderline obese. The following two years, Trump’s doctors revealed that his weight had increased to 243 and then 244 pounds, making him obese under government standards.

    But no such details have been released since Trump left the White House. After losing his reelection bid, Trump has relied on Aronwald, a doctor of osteopathic medicine who is a member of Trump’s Bedminster golf course and runs a private “concierge” practice that caters to high-income patients. Aronwald declined to speak to a Post reporter who in April visited his office in Morristown, N.J. He has never spoken publicly about Trump’s condition.

    The letter Aronwald released on Nov. 20 did not include specific results such as blood pressure or weight. Nor did it disclose Trump’s medications. Instead, it was filled with superlatives, saying Trump was in “excellent health” and had “exceptional” cognitive ability. It said without providing any numbers that Trump had “reduced his weight.” It said his cardiovascular studies were normal.

    Trump has said he twice “aced” cognitive tests, but he has not released them and has not said if he has taken one since 2018. Ziad Nasreddine, the neurologist who created the test, told The Post earlier this year that a six-year-old test would be too outdated to be relevant. He said that a candidate who is Trump’s age should take regular cognitive tests and publicly release the results.

    Some experts previously told The Post that Trump could face an elevated genetic risk of dementia. Trump has said that his father was “addled with Alzheimer’s,” which specialists said could increase Trump’s chances of inheriting the gene that can cause the disease. When Trump turned 50, he told Playboy magazine that watching his father face cognitive problems had a profound effect on him.

    “Turning 50 does make you think about mortality, or immortality, or whatever,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/trump-age-health/

    I love that he referred to Vance as "JD Wentworth"
    No way, is this true?
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    When is POOTWH stepping down? When are repubs going to admit they’ve been lying to the ‘Murican people and atone for the sin of nominating an unhealthy, old, demented, narcissistic sociopathic child rapist by calling for him to step down?

    Trump’s age and health under renewed scrutiny after Biden’s exit

    As president, Donald Trump released a report that experts said showed he had heart disease and was obese. But as a candidate, he has refused to release bloodwork results, his weight or other key information.

    After weeks of intense focus on President Biden’s health and age that ended with his withdrawal from the campaign on Sunday, the script has flipped: Former president Donald Trump is now the oldest presidential candidate in history — and one who has been less transparent about his medical condition than his former opponent.

    Trump, a 78-year-old with a history of heart disease and obesity, according to experts, has not shared any updated bloodwork results or other specific information during this campaign to help experts assess his ongoing medical risks.

    Instead, he has released a vague, three-paragraph letter from his primary care physician, Bruce A. Aronwald, who wrote in November that the former president was in excellent physical and mental health, and who later said in a statement released by campaign officials to The Washington Post that “there is no need for President Trump to release another medical report in addition to the one he recently made public.”

    Seven days after the attempted assassination against him on July 13, Trump released a letter from his former White House physician, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.), who described treating a two-centimeter-wide wound to Trump’s right ear and said he had a CT scan of his head and other tests but did not release the results. Jackson said in the letter that Trump was initially treated by the medical staff at Butler Memorial Hospital in Butler, Pa., and that he saw the former president later that night at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. Jackson, who is one of Trump’s most loyal supporters, did not respond to a request for comment. A hospital spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment.

    Jackson has previously said that Trump aced a cognitive test when he was president, but those results also have not been released.

    Now, instead of facing an 81-year-old candidate whose mental and physical health were questioned after a disastrous debate in June, Trump’s opponent is most likely to be Vice President Harris, a 59-year-old with no publicly disclosed health issues. Harris has not released a detailed medical report as vice president. The White House and her campaign did not immediately respond to questions from The Post about whether she would do so as a presidential candidate.

    The age of presidential candidateshas been a key issue for voters this year. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll, conducted before last week’s Republican convention, found that 60 percent of Americans said Trump is too old for another term as president, including 82 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents and 29 percent of Republicans. Before Biden dropped out of the race, many Democrats bristled at what they argued was an unfair critical focus on his age compared to Trump.

    A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    There is no requirement for presidential candidates to release medical records, and they would have to agree to waive privacy laws to enable a physician to do so. But medical experts said that given Trump’s age and the previous emphasis on health in the race, voters would benefit if everyone in the race were transparent with their doctors’ findings.

    “It would take away the fear that someone has an issue that is not being disclosed because they know if might affect their candidacy,” Ira Monka, president of the American Osteopathic Association, said in an interview before Biden’s withdrawal, referring to both him and Trump. “This is the highest office in the world so we want to have complete openness as much as possible. If the candidates would agree on that, I think the public would be very happy.”

    Trump has a mixed history of releasing medical information. In 2015, during his first run for the White House, he said he instructed his doctor, Harold Bornstein, to release “a full medical report” and promised “it will show perfection.” Bornstein did not release Trump’s records, but instead issued a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein, who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter.”

    In September 2016, Trump released another letter from Bornstein that included more information and concluded that Trump was “in excellent physical health.”

    One of the most detailed releases about Trump’s health came during his presidency in 2018, when Jackson appeared at the White House press room podium and provided details that included a CT scan showing Trump’s coronary calcium score was 133, up from 34 in 2009. At the time, CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, and other experts said the score indicated that Trump had heart disease.

    The letter also said Trump weighed 239 pounds, making him borderline obese. The following two years, Trump’s doctors revealed that his weight had increased to 243 and then 244 pounds, making him obese under government standards.

    But no such details have been released since Trump left the White House. After losing his reelection bid, Trump has relied on Aronwald, a doctor of osteopathic medicine who is a member of Trump’s Bedminster golf course and runs a private “concierge” practice that caters to high-income patients. Aronwald declined to speak to a Post reporter who in April visited his office in Morristown, N.J. He has never spoken publicly about Trump’s condition.

    The letter Aronwald released on Nov. 20 did not include specific results such as blood pressure or weight. Nor did it disclose Trump’s medications. Instead, it was filled with superlatives, saying Trump was in “excellent health” and had “exceptional” cognitive ability. It said without providing any numbers that Trump had “reduced his weight.” It said his cardiovascular studies were normal.

    Trump has said he twice “aced” cognitive tests, but he has not released them and has not said if he has taken one since 2018. Ziad Nasreddine, the neurologist who created the test, told The Post earlier this year that a six-year-old test would be too outdated to be relevant. He said that a candidate who is Trump’s age should take regular cognitive tests and publicly release the results.

    Some experts previously told The Post that Trump could face an elevated genetic risk of dementia. Trump has said that his father was “addled with Alzheimer’s,” which specialists said could increase Trump’s chances of inheriting the gene that can cause the disease. When Trump turned 50, he told Playboy magazine that watching his father face cognitive problems had a profound effect on him.

    “Turning 50 does make you think about mortality, or immortality, or whatever,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/trump-age-health/

    I love that he referred to Vance as "JD Wentworth"

    I prefer JV Dunce
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,408
    2023

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,408
    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    When is POOTWH stepping down? When are repubs going to admit they’ve been lying to the ‘Murican people and atone for the sin of nominating an unhealthy, old, demented, narcissistic sociopathic child rapist by calling for him to step down?

    Trump’s age and health under renewed scrutiny after Biden’s exit

    As president, Donald Trump released a report that experts said showed he had heart disease and was obese. But as a candidate, he has refused to release bloodwork results, his weight or other key information.

    After weeks of intense focus on President Biden’s health and age that ended with his withdrawal from the campaign on Sunday, the script has flipped: Former president Donald Trump is now the oldest presidential candidate in history — and one who has been less transparent about his medical condition than his former opponent.

    Trump, a 78-year-old with a history of heart disease and obesity, according to experts, has not shared any updated bloodwork results or other specific information during this campaign to help experts assess his ongoing medical risks.

    Instead, he has released a vague, three-paragraph letter from his primary care physician, Bruce A. Aronwald, who wrote in November that the former president was in excellent physical and mental health, and who later said in a statement released by campaign officials to The Washington Post that “there is no need for President Trump to release another medical report in addition to the one he recently made public.”

    Seven days after the attempted assassination against him on July 13, Trump released a letter from his former White House physician, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.), who described treating a two-centimeter-wide wound to Trump’s right ear and said he had a CT scan of his head and other tests but did not release the results. Jackson said in the letter that Trump was initially treated by the medical staff at Butler Memorial Hospital in Butler, Pa., and that he saw the former president later that night at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. Jackson, who is one of Trump’s most loyal supporters, did not respond to a request for comment. A hospital spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment.

    Jackson has previously said that Trump aced a cognitive test when he was president, but those results also have not been released.

    Now, instead of facing an 81-year-old candidate whose mental and physical health were questioned after a disastrous debate in June, Trump’s opponent is most likely to be Vice President Harris, a 59-year-old with no publicly disclosed health issues. Harris has not released a detailed medical report as vice president. The White House and her campaign did not immediately respond to questions from The Post about whether she would do so as a presidential candidate.

    The age of presidential candidateshas been a key issue for voters this year. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll, conducted before last week’s Republican convention, found that 60 percent of Americans said Trump is too old for another term as president, including 82 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents and 29 percent of Republicans. Before Biden dropped out of the race, many Democrats bristled at what they argued was an unfair critical focus on his age compared to Trump.

    A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    There is no requirement for presidential candidates to release medical records, and they would have to agree to waive privacy laws to enable a physician to do so. But medical experts said that given Trump’s age and the previous emphasis on health in the race, voters would benefit if everyone in the race were transparent with their doctors’ findings.

    “It would take away the fear that someone has an issue that is not being disclosed because they know if might affect their candidacy,” Ira Monka, president of the American Osteopathic Association, said in an interview before Biden’s withdrawal, referring to both him and Trump. “This is the highest office in the world so we want to have complete openness as much as possible. If the candidates would agree on that, I think the public would be very happy.”

    Trump has a mixed history of releasing medical information. In 2015, during his first run for the White House, he said he instructed his doctor, Harold Bornstein, to release “a full medical report” and promised “it will show perfection.” Bornstein did not release Trump’s records, but instead issued a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein, who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter.”

    In September 2016, Trump released another letter from Bornstein that included more information and concluded that Trump was “in excellent physical health.”

    One of the most detailed releases about Trump’s health came during his presidency in 2018, when Jackson appeared at the White House press room podium and provided details that included a CT scan showing Trump’s coronary calcium score was 133, up from 34 in 2009. At the time, CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, and other experts said the score indicated that Trump had heart disease.

    The letter also said Trump weighed 239 pounds, making him borderline obese. The following two years, Trump’s doctors revealed that his weight had increased to 243 and then 244 pounds, making him obese under government standards.

    But no such details have been released since Trump left the White House. After losing his reelection bid, Trump has relied on Aronwald, a doctor of osteopathic medicine who is a member of Trump’s Bedminster golf course and runs a private “concierge” practice that caters to high-income patients. Aronwald declined to speak to a Post reporter who in April visited his office in Morristown, N.J. He has never spoken publicly about Trump’s condition.

    The letter Aronwald released on Nov. 20 did not include specific results such as blood pressure or weight. Nor did it disclose Trump’s medications. Instead, it was filled with superlatives, saying Trump was in “excellent health” and had “exceptional” cognitive ability. It said without providing any numbers that Trump had “reduced his weight.” It said his cardiovascular studies were normal.

    Trump has said he twice “aced” cognitive tests, but he has not released them and has not said if he has taken one since 2018. Ziad Nasreddine, the neurologist who created the test, told The Post earlier this year that a six-year-old test would be too outdated to be relevant. He said that a candidate who is Trump’s age should take regular cognitive tests and publicly release the results.

    Some experts previously told The Post that Trump could face an elevated genetic risk of dementia. Trump has said that his father was “addled with Alzheimer’s,” which specialists said could increase Trump’s chances of inheriting the gene that can cause the disease. When Trump turned 50, he told Playboy magazine that watching his father face cognitive problems had a profound effect on him.

    “Turning 50 does make you think about mortality, or immortality, or whatever,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/trump-age-health/

    I love that he referred to Vance as "JD Wentworth"
    No way, is this true?
    lol...actually no. I'm a victim of the bullshit again.

    I'll do better. Just goes to show how the bullshit makes its way through.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,286
    mrussel1 said:
    When is POOTWH stepping down? When are repubs going to admit they’ve been lying to the ‘Murican people and atone for the sin of nominating an unhealthy, old, demented, narcissistic sociopathic child rapist by calling for him to step down?

    Trump’s age and health under renewed scrutiny after Biden’s exit

    As president, Donald Trump released a report that experts said showed he had heart disease and was obese. But as a candidate, he has refused to release bloodwork results, his weight or other key information.

    After weeks of intense focus on President Biden’s health and age that ended with his withdrawal from the campaign on Sunday, the script has flipped: Former president Donald Trump is now the oldest presidential candidate in history — and one who has been less transparent about his medical condition than his former opponent.

    Trump, a 78-year-old with a history of heart disease and obesity, according to experts, has not shared any updated bloodwork results or other specific information during this campaign to help experts assess his ongoing medical risks.

    Instead, he has released a vague, three-paragraph letter from his primary care physician, Bruce A. Aronwald, who wrote in November that the former president was in excellent physical and mental health, and who later said in a statement released by campaign officials to The Washington Post that “there is no need for President Trump to release another medical report in addition to the one he recently made public.”

    Seven days after the attempted assassination against him on July 13, Trump released a letter from his former White House physician, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.), who described treating a two-centimeter-wide wound to Trump’s right ear and said he had a CT scan of his head and other tests but did not release the results. Jackson said in the letter that Trump was initially treated by the medical staff at Butler Memorial Hospital in Butler, Pa., and that he saw the former president later that night at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. Jackson, who is one of Trump’s most loyal supporters, did not respond to a request for comment. A hospital spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment.

    Jackson has previously said that Trump aced a cognitive test when he was president, but those results also have not been released.

    Now, instead of facing an 81-year-old candidate whose mental and physical health were questioned after a disastrous debate in June, Trump’s opponent is most likely to be Vice President Harris, a 59-year-old with no publicly disclosed health issues. Harris has not released a detailed medical report as vice president. The White House and her campaign did not immediately respond to questions from The Post about whether she would do so as a presidential candidate.

    The age of presidential candidateshas been a key issue for voters this year. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll, conducted before last week’s Republican convention, found that 60 percent of Americans said Trump is too old for another term as president, including 82 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents and 29 percent of Republicans. Before Biden dropped out of the race, many Democrats bristled at what they argued was an unfair critical focus on his age compared to Trump.

    A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    There is no requirement for presidential candidates to release medical records, and they would have to agree to waive privacy laws to enable a physician to do so. But medical experts said that given Trump’s age and the previous emphasis on health in the race, voters would benefit if everyone in the race were transparent with their doctors’ findings.

    “It would take away the fear that someone has an issue that is not being disclosed because they know if might affect their candidacy,” Ira Monka, president of the American Osteopathic Association, said in an interview before Biden’s withdrawal, referring to both him and Trump. “This is the highest office in the world so we want to have complete openness as much as possible. If the candidates would agree on that, I think the public would be very happy.”

    Trump has a mixed history of releasing medical information. In 2015, during his first run for the White House, he said he instructed his doctor, Harold Bornstein, to release “a full medical report” and promised “it will show perfection.” Bornstein did not release Trump’s records, but instead issued a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein, who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter.”

    In September 2016, Trump released another letter from Bornstein that included more information and concluded that Trump was “in excellent physical health.”

    One of the most detailed releases about Trump’s health came during his presidency in 2018, when Jackson appeared at the White House press room podium and provided details that included a CT scan showing Trump’s coronary calcium score was 133, up from 34 in 2009. At the time, CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, and other experts said the score indicated that Trump had heart disease.

    The letter also said Trump weighed 239 pounds, making him borderline obese. The following two years, Trump’s doctors revealed that his weight had increased to 243 and then 244 pounds, making him obese under government standards.

    But no such details have been released since Trump left the White House. After losing his reelection bid, Trump has relied on Aronwald, a doctor of osteopathic medicine who is a member of Trump’s Bedminster golf course and runs a private “concierge” practice that caters to high-income patients. Aronwald declined to speak to a Post reporter who in April visited his office in Morristown, N.J. He has never spoken publicly about Trump’s condition.

    The letter Aronwald released on Nov. 20 did not include specific results such as blood pressure or weight. Nor did it disclose Trump’s medications. Instead, it was filled with superlatives, saying Trump was in “excellent health” and had “exceptional” cognitive ability. It said without providing any numbers that Trump had “reduced his weight.” It said his cardiovascular studies were normal.

    Trump has said he twice “aced” cognitive tests, but he has not released them and has not said if he has taken one since 2018. Ziad Nasreddine, the neurologist who created the test, told The Post earlier this year that a six-year-old test would be too outdated to be relevant. He said that a candidate who is Trump’s age should take regular cognitive tests and publicly release the results.

    Some experts previously told The Post that Trump could face an elevated genetic risk of dementia. Trump has said that his father was “addled with Alzheimer’s,” which specialists said could increase Trump’s chances of inheriting the gene that can cause the disease. When Trump turned 50, he told Playboy magazine that watching his father face cognitive problems had a profound effect on him.

    “Turning 50 does make you think about mortality, or immortality, or whatever,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/trump-age-health/

    I love that he referred to Vance as "JD Wentworth"
    No way, is this true?
    lol...actually no. I'm a victim of the bullshit again.

    I'll do better. Just goes to show how the bullshit makes its way through.
    Would’ve been incredible if true. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,312
    nicknyr15 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When is POOTWH stepping down? When are repubs going to admit they’ve been lying to the ‘Murican people and atone for the sin of nominating an unhealthy, old, demented, narcissistic sociopathic child rapist by calling for him to step down?

    Trump’s age and health under renewed scrutiny after Biden’s exit

    As president, Donald Trump released a report that experts said showed he had heart disease and was obese. But as a candidate, he has refused to release bloodwork results, his weight or other key information.

    After weeks of intense focus on President Biden’s health and age that ended with his withdrawal from the campaign on Sunday, the script has flipped: Former president Donald Trump is now the oldest presidential candidate in history — and one who has been less transparent about his medical condition than his former opponent.

    Trump, a 78-year-old with a history of heart disease and obesity, according to experts, has not shared any updated bloodwork results or other specific information during this campaign to help experts assess his ongoing medical risks.

    Instead, he has released a vague, three-paragraph letter from his primary care physician, Bruce A. Aronwald, who wrote in November that the former president was in excellent physical and mental health, and who later said in a statement released by campaign officials to The Washington Post that “there is no need for President Trump to release another medical report in addition to the one he recently made public.”

    Seven days after the attempted assassination against him on July 13, Trump released a letter from his former White House physician, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.), who described treating a two-centimeter-wide wound to Trump’s right ear and said he had a CT scan of his head and other tests but did not release the results. Jackson said in the letter that Trump was initially treated by the medical staff at Butler Memorial Hospital in Butler, Pa., and that he saw the former president later that night at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. Jackson, who is one of Trump’s most loyal supporters, did not respond to a request for comment. A hospital spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment.

    Jackson has previously said that Trump aced a cognitive test when he was president, but those results also have not been released.

    Now, instead of facing an 81-year-old candidate whose mental and physical health were questioned after a disastrous debate in June, Trump’s opponent is most likely to be Vice President Harris, a 59-year-old with no publicly disclosed health issues. Harris has not released a detailed medical report as vice president. The White House and her campaign did not immediately respond to questions from The Post about whether she would do so as a presidential candidate.

    The age of presidential candidateshas been a key issue for voters this year. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll, conducted before last week’s Republican convention, found that 60 percent of Americans said Trump is too old for another term as president, including 82 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents and 29 percent of Republicans. Before Biden dropped out of the race, many Democrats bristled at what they argued was an unfair critical focus on his age compared to Trump.

    A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    There is no requirement for presidential candidates to release medical records, and they would have to agree to waive privacy laws to enable a physician to do so. But medical experts said that given Trump’s age and the previous emphasis on health in the race, voters would benefit if everyone in the race were transparent with their doctors’ findings.

    “It would take away the fear that someone has an issue that is not being disclosed because they know if might affect their candidacy,” Ira Monka, president of the American Osteopathic Association, said in an interview before Biden’s withdrawal, referring to both him and Trump. “This is the highest office in the world so we want to have complete openness as much as possible. If the candidates would agree on that, I think the public would be very happy.”

    Trump has a mixed history of releasing medical information. In 2015, during his first run for the White House, he said he instructed his doctor, Harold Bornstein, to release “a full medical report” and promised “it will show perfection.” Bornstein did not release Trump’s records, but instead issued a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein, who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter.”

    In September 2016, Trump released another letter from Bornstein that included more information and concluded that Trump was “in excellent physical health.”

    One of the most detailed releases about Trump’s health came during his presidency in 2018, when Jackson appeared at the White House press room podium and provided details that included a CT scan showing Trump’s coronary calcium score was 133, up from 34 in 2009. At the time, CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, and other experts said the score indicated that Trump had heart disease.

    The letter also said Trump weighed 239 pounds, making him borderline obese. The following two years, Trump’s doctors revealed that his weight had increased to 243 and then 244 pounds, making him obese under government standards.

    But no such details have been released since Trump left the White House. After losing his reelection bid, Trump has relied on Aronwald, a doctor of osteopathic medicine who is a member of Trump’s Bedminster golf course and runs a private “concierge” practice that caters to high-income patients. Aronwald declined to speak to a Post reporter who in April visited his office in Morristown, N.J. He has never spoken publicly about Trump’s condition.

    The letter Aronwald released on Nov. 20 did not include specific results such as blood pressure or weight. Nor did it disclose Trump’s medications. Instead, it was filled with superlatives, saying Trump was in “excellent health” and had “exceptional” cognitive ability. It said without providing any numbers that Trump had “reduced his weight.” It said his cardiovascular studies were normal.

    Trump has said he twice “aced” cognitive tests, but he has not released them and has not said if he has taken one since 2018. Ziad Nasreddine, the neurologist who created the test, told The Post earlier this year that a six-year-old test would be too outdated to be relevant. He said that a candidate who is Trump’s age should take regular cognitive tests and publicly release the results.

    Some experts previously told The Post that Trump could face an elevated genetic risk of dementia. Trump has said that his father was “addled with Alzheimer’s,” which specialists said could increase Trump’s chances of inheriting the gene that can cause the disease. When Trump turned 50, he told Playboy magazine that watching his father face cognitive problems had a profound effect on him.

    “Turning 50 does make you think about mortality, or immortality, or whatever,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/trump-age-health/

    I love that he referred to Vance as "JD Wentworth"
    No way, is this true?
    lol...actually no. I'm a victim of the bullshit again.

    I'll do better. Just goes to show how the bullshit makes its way through.
    Would’ve been incredible if true. 
    So much fun... 
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,624
    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When is POOTWH stepping down? When are repubs going to admit they’ve been lying to the ‘Murican people and atone for the sin of nominating an unhealthy, old, demented, narcissistic sociopathic child rapist by calling for him to step down?

    Trump’s age and health under renewed scrutiny after Biden’s exit

    As president, Donald Trump released a report that experts said showed he had heart disease and was obese. But as a candidate, he has refused to release bloodwork results, his weight or other key information.

    After weeks of intense focus on President Biden’s health and age that ended with his withdrawal from the campaign on Sunday, the script has flipped: Former president Donald Trump is now the oldest presidential candidate in history — and one who has been less transparent about his medical condition than his former opponent.

    Trump, a 78-year-old with a history of heart disease and obesity, according to experts, has not shared any updated bloodwork results or other specific information during this campaign to help experts assess his ongoing medical risks.

    Instead, he has released a vague, three-paragraph letter from his primary care physician, Bruce A. Aronwald, who wrote in November that the former president was in excellent physical and mental health, and who later said in a statement released by campaign officials to The Washington Post that “there is no need for President Trump to release another medical report in addition to the one he recently made public.”

    Seven days after the attempted assassination against him on July 13, Trump released a letter from his former White House physician, Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.), who described treating a two-centimeter-wide wound to Trump’s right ear and said he had a CT scan of his head and other tests but did not release the results. Jackson said in the letter that Trump was initially treated by the medical staff at Butler Memorial Hospital in Butler, Pa., and that he saw the former president later that night at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. Jackson, who is one of Trump’s most loyal supporters, did not respond to a request for comment. A hospital spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment.

    Jackson has previously said that Trump aced a cognitive test when he was president, but those results also have not been released.

    Now, instead of facing an 81-year-old candidate whose mental and physical health were questioned after a disastrous debate in June, Trump’s opponent is most likely to be Vice President Harris, a 59-year-old with no publicly disclosed health issues. Harris has not released a detailed medical report as vice president. The White House and her campaign did not immediately respond to questions from The Post about whether she would do so as a presidential candidate.

    The age of presidential candidateshas been a key issue for voters this year. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll, conducted before last week’s Republican convention, found that 60 percent of Americans said Trump is too old for another term as president, including 82 percent of Democrats, 65 percent of independents and 29 percent of Republicans. Before Biden dropped out of the race, many Democrats bristled at what they argued was an unfair critical focus on his age compared to Trump.

    A Trump campaign spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    There is no requirement for presidential candidates to release medical records, and they would have to agree to waive privacy laws to enable a physician to do so. But medical experts said that given Trump’s age and the previous emphasis on health in the race, voters would benefit if everyone in the race were transparent with their doctors’ findings.

    “It would take away the fear that someone has an issue that is not being disclosed because they know if might affect their candidacy,” Ira Monka, president of the American Osteopathic Association, said in an interview before Biden’s withdrawal, referring to both him and Trump. “This is the highest office in the world so we want to have complete openness as much as possible. If the candidates would agree on that, I think the public would be very happy.”

    Trump has a mixed history of releasing medical information. In 2015, during his first run for the White House, he said he instructed his doctor, Harold Bornstein, to release “a full medical report” and promised “it will show perfection.” Bornstein did not release Trump’s records, but instead issued a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein, who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter.”

    In September 2016, Trump released another letter from Bornstein that included more information and concluded that Trump was “in excellent physical health.”

    One of the most detailed releases about Trump’s health came during his presidency in 2018, when Jackson appeared at the White House press room podium and provided details that included a CT scan showing Trump’s coronary calcium score was 133, up from 34 in 2009. At the time, CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, and other experts said the score indicated that Trump had heart disease.

    The letter also said Trump weighed 239 pounds, making him borderline obese. The following two years, Trump’s doctors revealed that his weight had increased to 243 and then 244 pounds, making him obese under government standards.

    But no such details have been released since Trump left the White House. After losing his reelection bid, Trump has relied on Aronwald, a doctor of osteopathic medicine who is a member of Trump’s Bedminster golf course and runs a private “concierge” practice that caters to high-income patients. Aronwald declined to speak to a Post reporter who in April visited his office in Morristown, N.J. He has never spoken publicly about Trump’s condition.

    The letter Aronwald released on Nov. 20 did not include specific results such as blood pressure or weight. Nor did it disclose Trump’s medications. Instead, it was filled with superlatives, saying Trump was in “excellent health” and had “exceptional” cognitive ability. It said without providing any numbers that Trump had “reduced his weight.” It said his cardiovascular studies were normal.

    Trump has said he twice “aced” cognitive tests, but he has not released them and has not said if he has taken one since 2018. Ziad Nasreddine, the neurologist who created the test, told The Post earlier this year that a six-year-old test would be too outdated to be relevant. He said that a candidate who is Trump’s age should take regular cognitive tests and publicly release the results.

    Some experts previously told The Post that Trump could face an elevated genetic risk of dementia. Trump has said that his father was “addled with Alzheimer’s,” which specialists said could increase Trump’s chances of inheriting the gene that can cause the disease. When Trump turned 50, he told Playboy magazine that watching his father face cognitive problems had a profound effect on him.

    “Turning 50 does make you think about mortality, or immortality, or whatever,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/trump-age-health/

    I love that he referred to Vance as "JD Wentworth"
    No way, is this true?
    lol...actually no. I'm a victim of the bullshit again.

    I'll do better. Just goes to show how the bullshit makes its way through.
    Would’ve been incredible if true. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,197
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    2023
    Bahahahahahahaha! Bahahahahahahaha! Bahahahahahahaha!

    The Whiny, crying man baby is at it again. Bahahahahahahaha!

    Trump decried Biden’s decision to drop out in a post on Truth Social, writing that his team would have to “start all over again” and asking to be reimbursed for the cost. At the same time, Vance has set straight to work, calling for Biden to resign from the presidency.

    Like it was POOTWH money to start with. Bahahahahahahaha!

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,035
    2023
    Bahahahahahahaha! Bahahahahahahaha! Bahahahahahahaha!

    The Whiny, crying man baby is at it again. Bahahahahahahaha!

    Trump decried Biden’s decision to drop out in a post on Truth Social, writing that his team would have to “start all over again” and asking to be reimbursed for the cost. At the same time, Vance has set straight to work, calling for Biden to resign from the presidency.

    Like it was POOTWH money to start with. Bahahahahahahaha!

    sounds like he has a structured settlement and he needs cash now.

    better call jd wentworth!!!
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,292
    edited July 23
    The Republicans really are going overboard to insult the intelligence of the American public, from the "if he's not fit to run, he's not fit to serve" argument, to the "Democratic voters are being disenfranchised by Biden being pushed aside" argument. The first argument ignores the fact that Biden has not said he's dropping out because he's not fit to run. He dropped out because people convinced him that he can't win. And the second argument, from the people who brought you "find me 11,780 votes" and fake electors and January 6 is truly staggering.

    EDIT: Corrected a typo in the number of votes Trump asked Brad Raffensperger to "find."
    Post edited by BF25394 on
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,406
    2023
    BF25394 said:
    The Republicans really are going overboard to insult the intelligence of the American public, from the "if he's not fit to run, he's not fit to serve" argument, to the "Democratic voters are being disenfranchised by Biden being pushed aside" argument. The first argument ignores the fact that Biden has not said he's dropping out because he's not fit to run. He dropped out because people convinced him that he can't win. And the second argument, from the people who brought you "find me 11,380 votes" and fake electors and January 6 is truly staggering.
    Stop it. You are bring too reasonable for some in here. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,408
    2023
    BF25394 said:
    The Republicans really are going overboard to insult the intelligence of the American public, from the "if he's not fit to run, he's not fit to serve" argument, to the "Democratic voters are being disenfranchised by Biden being pushed aside" argument. The first argument ignores the fact that Biden has not said he's dropping out because he's not fit to run. He dropped out because people convinced him that he can't win. And the second argument, from the people who brought you "find me 11,380 votes" and fake electors and January 6 is truly staggering.
    you're right...fucking unbelievable hypocrisy
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,406
    edited July 23
    2023
    This is the writer who interviewed Trump's campaign managers a little before the debate....they were incredibly cocky and talked about winning in a landslide at that time. Lol



    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/this-is-exactly-what-the-trump-team-feared/ar-BB1qnUS4

    This Is Exactly What the Trump Team Feared

    Story by Tim Alberta
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    This Is Exactly What the Trump Team Feared
    This Is Exactly What the Trump Team Feared© Roger Kisby / Redux for The Atlantic

    On the evening of Super Tuesday, March 5, shortly before Donald Trump effectively ended the Republican primary and earned a general-election rematch with President Joe Biden, I asked the co-managers of Trump’s presidential campaign what they feared most about Biden.

    “Honestly, it’s less him,” Chris LaCivita told me. “And more—”

    “Institutional Democrats,” Susie Wiles said, finishing her partner’s thought.

    It was a revealing exchange, and a theme we would revisit frequently. The Democratic Party, Wiles and LaCivita would tell me in conversations over the coming months, was a machine—well organized and well financed, with a record of support from the low-propensity voters who turn out every four years in presidential contests. Ordinarily, they explained, Democrats would have structural superiority in a race like this one. But something was holding the party back: Biden.

    LaCivita and Wiles expected the campaign’s narrative to be controlled by Democrats from the beginning: Trump, after all, had sabotaged the peaceful transition of power after the 2020 election, incited an attack on the U.S. Capitol, and, more recently, faced numerous criminal prosecutions and the possibility of jail time. And yet Biden offered an opening. Already the oldest president in American history, he began to show signs of rapid deterioration in 2023. This would make the campaign a game of survival more than skill, each candidate needing to convince voters that he was less unqualified than his opponent.

     began pulling ahead. Polls showed him making unprecedented gains with those low-propensity demographics, specifically Black and Hispanic voters—not because of anything he was doing particularly well, but because of apathy and disillusionment within the Democratic base. As far back as springtime, the numbers told a straightforward story: Biden was not going to win. Democrats could only look on, powerless, as the president denied the party’s young bench—and its organizational machine—a chance to change the narrative.

    “I don’t think Joe Biden has a ton of advantages,” Wiles told me on Super Tuesday. “But I do think Democrats do.”

    She and LaCivita were right to worry.

    Biden’s departure from the presidential race this afternoon—hours after his top surrogates had insisted that he would carry on—is the culmination of a remarkable pressure campaign, launched after his calamitous June 27 debate performance and aimed at pushing the president into retirement. On the Republican side, it caps a frenetic four-month stretch in which Trump’s campaign went from cocky about Biden’s deficiencies to fearful of his ouster to stunned at the sudden letter from Biden doing the thing Republicans thought he’d never do.


    Republicans I spoke with today, some of them still hungover from celebrating what felt to many like a victory-night celebration in Milwaukee, registered shock at the news of Biden’s departure. Party officials had left town believing the race was all but over. Now they were confronting the reality of reimagining a campaign—one that had been optimized, in every way, to defeat Biden—against a new and unknown challenger. “So, we are forced to spend time and money on fighting Crooked Joe Biden, he polls badly after having a terrible debate, and quits the race,” a clearly peeved Trump wrote Sunday on Truth Social. “Now we have to start all over again.”

    For months, in talking with Wiles and LaCivita, I was struck by their concern about the potential of a dramatic switch—Democratic leaders pushing out Biden in favor of a younger nominee. They told me that Trump’s campaign was readying contingency plans and studying the weaknesses of would-be alternatives, beginning with Vice President Kamala Harris. By the time of the debate, however, they believed that Democrats’ window had all but closed. Even in the immediate aftermath—as Democratic officials openly called for Biden to quit—Wiles and LaCivita were betting on the status quo. More than anything, Trump’s allies believed that the president’s stubborn Irish ego wouldn’t let him back out of a fight with a man he despised.

    But they couldn’t take any chances. Two weeks ago, according to a campaign source who spoke with me on the condition of anonymity, Trump’s pollster Tony Fabrizio went into the field to begin testing the outcomes of a Harris-versus-Trump matchup. These surveys, conducted across several battleground states, represented the most concrete step taken to prepare for the possibility of a new adversary. Still, with the polling a tightly held secret—I couldn’t verify the results—there were no outward signs of Trump’s operation expecting a reset. When convention speakers reached out to the GOP nominee’s campaign, gauging whether to hedge their speeches with attacks on Harris, they were told to keep the focus on Biden.

    [Read: Biden’s greatest strengths proved his undoing]

    In many ways, the convention scene was one of a party peaking too early. Campaigns are marathons measured by changes in momentum and narrative, and Republicans in Milwaukee reveled in what felt like a three-week winning streak, dating back to the debate, in which the daily churn of insider gossip focused ever more on Democratic fatalism and Trump’s seeming inevitability. No Republican I spoke with could remember a longer stretch of uninterrupted forward propulsion. And with Biden appearing to dig in, they left Milwaukee believing that this run of luck might never end.

    The president’s abrupt exit dashed any such fantasy. Suddenly, Republicans who had boasted last week about expanding the electoral map—pushing into Minnesota and Virginia and other decidedly blue areas—were fretting about the possibility of Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro or Arizona Senator Mark Kelly joining the Democratic ticket, partnering with Harris to put back into play key battlegrounds that just 24 hours earlier seemed to be out of reach.

    Given the historic volatility of this campaign—Trump survived an assassination attempt just last weekend—there’s no guarantee that Harris will ultimately succeed Biden atop the ticket. The Trump campaign certainly believes she will—understandably so, given the rapid consolidation of Democratic officials around her following Biden’s announcement—and blasted out a statement Sunday afternoon that tied Harris to her unpopular boss. “Kamala Harris is just as much of [a] joke as Biden is,” Wiles and LaCivita said in a statement. “Harris will be even WORSE for the people of our Nation than Joe Biden. Harris has been the Enabler in Chief for Crooked Joe this entire time. They own each other’s records, and there is no distance between the two.”

    This is the essence of what Trump’s campaign believes—that any Democrat who picks up the party’s banner will inherit the baggage that made Biden unelectable. Republicans will point to historic inflation, millions of illegal border crossings, and geopolitical chaos from Eastern Europe to the Middle East as evidence that the entire Democratic Party has failed the American people. “We’ve talked about strength versus weakness, success versus failure,” LaCivita told me before the convention, summarizing the campaign’s strategic vision for the race. “The great thing about that messaging is that it’s not just unique to Joe Biden.”

    But messaging is a secondary concern for Democrats. What they need first is a messenger.

    It’s true that Harris will struggle to shed some policy-related criticisms; her appointment early in her vice presidency to handle the southern border, in fact, could make her even more vulnerable to immigration-related attacks than Biden was. It’s also true, however, that policy criticisms aren’t what made Biden unelectable in the eyes of most Americans. In an evenly divided and exceedingly polarized nation, Biden lost ground—with his party’s base as well as with independents—because he was perceived to be too old and infirm to serve another four years in office.

    Harris is neither of those things. At 59 years old, she is two decades younger than Trump and will have no trouble keeping up with him on the campaign trail or the debate stage. She is also a former prosecutor who, if anything, is known for being too tough on crime. (Trump allies told me they plan to assault her left flank with accusations of Harris over-incarcerating young men of color when she was California’s attorney general.) At the very least, Trump’s lieutenants realize, Harris’s promotion will provide a desperately needed jolt to Democrats nationwide in the form of fundraising, volunteerism, and enthusiasm. Whatever her flaws as a politician—Harris ran a dreadful primary campaign for president in 2020, marked by organizational infighting and awkward sound bites—she does not possess the one flaw that proved insurmountable for Biden.

    [Read: Trump versus the coconut-pilled]

    Trump’s campaign insists that nothing has changed. Wiles and LaCivita are telling their team that given the obstacles Trump has already overcome—prosecutions, a conviction, an assassination attempt that nearly killed him—a new nominee for the Democrats is just another log on the 2024 inferno.

    But they know it’s more than that. They know that from the moment they partnered with Trump, everything they intended for this campaign—the messaging, the advertising, the microtargeting, the ground game, the mail pieces, the digital engagement, the social-media maneuvers—was designed to defeat Joe Biden. Even the selection of Ohio’s Senator J. D. Vance as Trump’s running mate, campaign officials acknowledged, was something of a luxury meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter.

    The mentality of this Trump campaign, LaCivita once told me, is to spend every day on offense. The team wants to shape the pace and substance of every news cycle and force Democrats to react, ensuring that key battles are fought on the GOP’s chosen terrain. It worked so well that Biden was ruined before his party’s convention. Now the Trump operation is vowing to destroy Harris—if, in fact, she becomes the nominee—in much the same way.

    And yet, for a campaign that went to bed Saturday believing that it would dictate the terms of the election every day until November 5, Sunday brought an unfamiliar feeling of powerlessness. For the first time in a long time, Trump does not control the narrative of 2024.

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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    edited July 23
    anybody know the story of why trump keeps invoking the late great hannibal lecter in his speeches? it's bizarre. 
    Best guess? To have it coincide with the far left wacko do nothing dems who are trying to make is okay to rip a baby out of a woman and then kill it (presumably so we can then eat it). All he has to do is speak it that way and the cult followers will hear it as truth.
    So a woman posted that she believes he doesn’t understand the difference between asylum mental institution and asylum immigration. This the Hannibal Lector connection.  

    Ok now I get it.  Anthony Hopkins is Welsh therefore he was seeking asylum while being in an asylum while he was filming Silence of the Lambs”.  Makes perfect sense.  
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,583
    edited July 23
    2023
    Tjm007 said:
    Tenacious D having Oz tour dates cancelled - guess there is a price to pay..

    Bummer that it he made that joke in public.  I thought those guys were hilarious together.  I'm guessing that's the end of that duo.  Too bad!
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,970
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    I agree that the joke was in poor taste.

    Maybe he should have suggested it was a lover's quarrel like Cruz did when it was Paul Pelosi.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,408
    2023
    Ok...so apparently "JD Vance fucked his couch" is a thing. He supposedly describes this in his book where he placed a latex glove in between the cushions and went to town.

    Which reminds me of an old friend of mine that got the nickname "cushion pusher" for being caught doing this exact thing.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,483
    2024
    Ok...so apparently "JD Vance fucked his couch" is a thing. He supposedly describes this in his book where he placed a latex glove in between the cushions and went to town.

    Which reminds me of an old friend of mine that got the nickname "cushion pusher" for being caught doing this exact thing.
    weird. a guy I went to high school with ALSO was known for this exact thing after getting caught. 
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,292
    Check out this quote from J.D. Vance:

    “What is going on in this country is absolutely disgraceful. If you want to run for president, you’ve got to make your case to voters. ... The idea of selecting the Democrat Party’s nominee because George Soros and Barack Obama and a couple of elite Democrats got in a smoke-filled room and decided to throw Joe Biden overboard — that is not how it works.”

    Aside from the gaslighting involved here that I alluded to in my prior post-- Republicans care about the importance of every vote all of a sudden?-- this is so transparently ridiculous on multiple levels. First, note the completely superfluous George Soros reference. I guess he forgot to work in Jewish space lasers to really hammer home the point. Second, parties get to choose their nominees. That is, in fact, how it works. That is how it has always worked, for as long as there have been political parties in this country. Primaries and caucuses had no more than a nominal effect on the process until relatively late in the 20th century.
     
    But there's also a seemingly very small thing in this quote that speaks volumes. It's when U.S. Senator J.D. Vance, a graduate of Yale Law School, the most selective and prestigious school of its kind in this country, uses the phrase "Democrat Party" when he knows damned well that it is the Democratic Party. This is a Frank Luntz thing, like calling the estate tax the "death tax," where Republicans refuse to use the word Democratic to refer to the opposing party because they don't want to imply that the Democrats are actually small-d democratic (which is even dumber given that Republicans are constantly shouting about how the U.S. is not a democracy, but a constitutional republic, because they need to gloss over the fact that two recent Republicans were elected president without getting a plurality of the total votes cast). And because the Republicans are remarkably disciplined and consistent about being on message, no matter how much it contradicts what they said yesterday (see the flip-flip on the importance of votes, see the flip-flop from Merrick Garland to Amy Coney Barrett, etc.), they all say "Democrat Party" because they all got the memo and they are all completely shameless. But here's the thing: every time a Republican says "Democrat Party," they are lying to your face, because they all know it's the Democratic Party, but they say "Democrat Party" anyway. And if they'll lie about the smallest of things, you can be sure they'll lie about the big things.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,408
    2023


    lol...couch located
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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