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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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My independent research has discerned as much. Now, it’ll never be repeated. End of story, official record. Now, can we discuss Brandon’s dementia and Hunter’s laptop?
In a speech Thursday night in Milwaukee accepting the Republican nomination for president, Trump dramatically recounted the experience of narrowly missing a would-be assassin’s bullet at the Pennsylvania rally, saying he would describe what happened only once because it was “too painful to tell.”
As he turned his head to the right to see a chart on display at the rally, he recalled, “I started to turn to my right, and was ready to begin a further turn — which I’m lucky I didn’t — when I heard a loud whizzing sound and felt something hit me, really hard, on my right ear.”
Jan. 6 rioter accused of giving Nazi salute sentenced to almost 5 years
Tyler Bradley Dykes, a former Marine who was previously convicted over a 2017 Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, used a stolen police shield during the Capitol assault.
I recommend fact checking random social media posts before you share them.
your post: You know how people are worried about foreign investors buying up US farmland?There's a shady tech company that helps them do that! It's like Uber for buying US farmland, which upends generations of family farms and their communities.And who's one of its key investors, profiting off of every sale? J.D. Vance.
The facts: From what I can tell and based on the comments he’s referring to AcreTrade. Never heard of them, but he’s a description of what they are I found online. ”AcreTrader is a real estate crowdfunding platform that allows accredited investors to buy shares of farmland and other real assets:
Farmland: AcreTrader offers investors access to farmland investments across the United States. The company vets farms for investors and handles farm management. Investors can earn annual cash distributions and potentially benefit from land appreciation.”
They don’t buy farmland, they invest in it.
Another source listed Vance’s investment as in the category as less than $15,000. That’s hardly a key investor.
I recommend fact checking random social media posts before you share them.
your post: You know how people are worried about foreign investors buying up US farmland?There's a shady tech company that helps them do that! It's like Uber for buying US farmland, which upends generations of family farms and their communities.And who's one of its key investors, profiting off of every sale? J.D. Vance.
The facts: From what I can tell and based on the comments he’s referring to AcreTrade. Never heard of them, but he’s a description of what they are I found online. ”AcreTrader is a real estate crowdfunding platform that allows accredited investors to buy shares of farmland and other real assets:
Farmland: AcreTrader offers investors access to farmland investments across the United States. The company vets farms for investors and handles farm management. Investors can earn annual cash distributions and potentially benefit from land appreciation.”
They don’t buy farmland, they invest in it.
Another source listed Vance’s investment as in the category as less than $15,000. That’s hardly a key investor.
Time out! When I said the $15 to the libs by the shooter was not significant you said any amount counted as a contribution. You’re not dealing with the mush brains some of you think we are.
It would be easy to say that’s what’s wrong with the republicans but that would be unfair. That’s what’s wrong with you not being able to remember what you’ve already posted. And that is not a republican or democratic thing.
I recommend fact checking random social media posts before you share them.
your post: You know how people are worried about foreign investors buying up US farmland?There's a shady tech company that helps them do that! It's like Uber for buying US farmland, which upends generations of family farms and their communities.And who's one of its key investors, profiting off of every sale? J.D. Vance.
The facts: From what I can tell and based on the comments he’s referring to AcreTrade. Never heard of them, but he’s a description of what they are I found online. ”AcreTrader is a real estate crowdfunding platform that allows accredited investors to buy shares of farmland and other real assets:
Farmland: AcreTrader offers investors access to farmland investments across the United States. The company vets farms for investors and handles farm management. Investors can earn annual cash distributions and potentially benefit from land appreciation.”
They don’t buy farmland, they invest in it.
Another source listed Vance’s investment as in the category as less than $15,000. That’s hardly a key investor.
Time out! When I said the $15 to the libs by the shooter was not significant you said any amount counted as a contribution. You’re not dealing with the mush brains some of you think we are.
It would be easy to say that’s what’s wrong with the republicans but that would be unfair. That’s what’s wrong with you not being able to remember what you’ve already posted. And that is not a republican or democratic thing.
Yes, I said those things a few other days about the shooter. But I don’t see how it relates to this. Mickey posted a link that says Vance is a key investor for a shady company that helps foreign investors buy farmland.
My response is Vance invested less than $15,000. That doesn’t seem like a “key investor” to me. I’m sure they’d be just fine without him, and Vance was in finance that probably had hundreds of investments. He’s probably not involved at all other than having a few thousands dollars invested. The company in question doesn’t sell farmland to foreigners. They help investors invest. They probably allows foreigns to invest in sure. But helping foreign investors buy our farmland is a stretch when they are just an investment company, they don’t even sell real estate.
This is the description I found that I gave: The company vets farms for investors and handles farm management. Investors can earn annual cash distributions and potentially benefit from land appreciation.”
To say the company he is a “key investor” in sells farmland to foreign investors seems inaccurate and at the very least misleading, if just not flat out wrong.
I don’t give a crap what he’s talking about…it’s a money thing. He’s defending the republicans again after pushing the fact that the shooter donated $15 to a liberal org so he couldn’t possibly be a rep (which he was) Now $15,000 is nothing when it was a rep? Those are fucking right-offs. It’s all bullshit. He’s praising people who beat the tax system once a year.
$15,000 is not a key investor but a $15.00 progressive contribution from 2017 is nevertheless a contribution to the Democratic Party. Double talk - that’s all it ever is.
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I don’t give a crap what he’s talking about…it’s a money thing. He’s defending the republicans again after pushing the fact that the shooter donated $15 to a liberal org so he couldn’t possibly be a rep (which he was) Now $15,000 is nothing when it was a rep? Those are fucking right-offs. It’s all bullshit. He’s praising people who beat the tax system once a year.
This is clear. It seems you just have it out for mace. Getting upset over someone pointing out the difference between buying and investing, or someone’s opinion of the term “key investor” is kind of silly, no?
$15,000 is not a key investor but a $15.00 progressive contribution from 2017 is nevertheless a contribution to the Democratic Party. Double talk - that’s all it ever is.
I would not personally consider $15k as a key investment in real estate, but that’s my opinion. A contribution is a contribution no matter what the amount. One is an opinion, and the other is fact. Nothing to get worked up over.
I don’t give a crap what he’s talking about…it’s a money thing. He’s defending the republicans again after pushing the fact that the shooter donated $15 to a liberal org so he couldn’t possibly be a rep (which he was) Now $15,000 is nothing when it was a rep? Those are fucking right-offs. It’s all bullshit. He’s praising people who beat the tax system once a year.
This is clear. It seems you just have it out for mace. Getting upset over someone pointing out the difference between buying and investing, or someone’s opinion of the term “key investor” is kind of silly, no?
$15,000 is not a key investor but a $15.00 progressive contribution from 2017 is nevertheless a contribution to the Democratic Party. Double talk - that’s all it ever is.
I would not personally consider $15k as a key investment in real estate, but that’s my opinion. A contribution is a contribution no matter what the amount. One is an opinion, and the other is fact. Nothing to get worked up over.
I think we misunderstand each other a lot. I don’t think it’s personal or she has it out for me.
I don’t give a crap what he’s talking about…it’s a money thing. He’s defending the republicans again after pushing the fact that the shooter donated $15 to a liberal org so he couldn’t possibly be a rep (which he was) Now $15,000 is nothing when it was a rep? Those are fucking right-offs. It’s all bullshit. He’s praising people who beat the tax system once a year.
I didn’t say he couldn’t be republican. I think it was about a day after the shooting. My point was we just didn’t know at that point. He maybe was or maybe not. I didn’t know. A donation to a group is different than an investment. I don’t care for 5-guys. If I thought they’d make good money, I’d invest in them though. I’d never donate to a group I don’t believe in.
The company in question is an investment brokerage that works with farms and helps manage them. Through them, you can invest in a farm. I see nothing shady about that. Lots of business need investors. Many farms are no different. From what I can tell, They don’t target foreigners as customers and they don’t sell any land.
To say Vance is a key investor in a shady company that sells form land to foreigners isn’t accurate.
You can say he has a small investment in a company that invests in farm land. That doesn’t seem like an issue at all to me. It also isn’t a catchy headline.
I also responded because Mickey will share multiple social media posts. I don’t click on most of them. But the 2 I did click on recently are misleading.
The other one was a claim that Vance is Venmo friends with a list of people, that included someone connected to project 25 and some judges or lawyers Trump doesn’t like. When checking on that, it is true he is Venmo friends with those people. But were likely automatically added as friends from his phone contacts when the account was created in 2016 when he was a lawyer and there is no evidence of any financial relationship or transaction. So while true, the headline is misleading. Seems like no big deal to me at all when you read the truth about it.
If I click on a link and decide to check the validity of the claim for myself, I like to share what I read.
I don’t give a crap what he’s talking about…it’s a money thing. He’s defending the republicans again after pushing the fact that the shooter donated $15 to a liberal org so he couldn’t possibly be a rep (which he was) Now $15,000 is nothing when it was a rep? Those are fucking right-offs. It’s all bullshit. He’s praising people who beat the tax system once a year.
This is clear. It seems you just have it out for mace. Getting upset over someone pointing out the difference between buying and investing, or someone’s opinion of the term “key investor” is kind of silly, no?
$15,000 is not a key investor but a $15.00 progressive contribution from 2017 is nevertheless a contribution to the Democratic Party. Double talk - that’s all it ever is.
I would not personally consider $15k as a key investment in real estate, but that’s my opinion. A contribution is a contribution no matter what the amount. One is an opinion, and the other is fact. Nothing to get worked up over.
I think we misunderstand each other a lot. I don’t think it’s personal or she has it out for me.
You’re so right! I respect that you’re a teacher and that no matter what you make people think even if they won’t admit it!
I don’t give a crap what he’s talking about…it’s a money thing. He’s defending the republicans again after pushing the fact that the shooter donated $15 to a liberal org so he couldn’t possibly be a rep (which he was) Now $15,000 is nothing when it was a rep? Those are fucking right-offs. It’s all bullshit. He’s praising people who beat the tax system once a year.
This is clear. It seems you just have it out for mace. Getting upset over someone pointing out the difference between buying and investing, or someone’s opinion of the term “key investor” is kind of silly, no?
$15,000 is not a key investor but a $15.00 progressive contribution from 2017 is nevertheless a contribution to the Democratic Party. Double talk - that’s all it ever is.
I would not personally consider $15k as a key investment in real estate, but that’s my opinion. A contribution is a contribution no matter what the amount. One is an opinion, and the other is fact. Nothing to get worked up over.
Mace and I are like brother and sister, we bicker! It’s all good. I think you didn’t get my point but it doesn’t matter. Let’s just move on. My fault (again) mace 😂
I don’t give a crap what he’s talking about…it’s a money thing. He’s defending the republicans again after pushing the fact that the shooter donated $15 to a liberal org so he couldn’t possibly be a rep (which he was) Now $15,000 is nothing when it was a rep? Those are fucking right-offs. It’s all bullshit. He’s praising people who beat the tax system once a year.
This is clear. It seems you just have it out for mace. Getting upset over someone pointing out the difference between buying and investing, or someone’s opinion of the term “key investor” is kind of silly, no?
$15,000 is not a key investor but a $15.00 progressive contribution from 2017 is nevertheless a contribution to the Democratic Party. Double talk - that’s all it ever is.
I would not personally consider $15k as a key investment in real estate, but that’s my opinion. A contribution is a contribution no matter what the amount. One is an opinion, and the other is fact. Nothing to get worked up over.
I think we misunderstand each other a lot. I don’t think it’s personal or she has it out for me.
Good. I think a lot of what you say gets misunderstood/spun around here.
I don’t give a crap what he’s talking about…it’s a money thing. He’s defending the republicans again after pushing the fact that the shooter donated $15 to a liberal org so he couldn’t possibly be a rep (which he was) Now $15,000 is nothing when it was a rep? Those are fucking right-offs. It’s all bullshit. He’s praising people who beat the tax system once a year.
This is clear. It seems you just have it out for mace. Getting upset over someone pointing out the difference between buying and investing, or someone’s opinion of the term “key investor” is kind of silly, no?
$15,000 is not a key investor but a $15.00 progressive contribution from 2017 is nevertheless a contribution to the Democratic Party. Double talk - that’s all it ever is.
I would not personally consider $15k as a key investment in real estate, but that’s my opinion. A contribution is a contribution no matter what the amount. One is an opinion, and the other is fact. Nothing to get worked up over.
Mace and I are like brother and sister, we bicker! It’s all good. I think you didn’t get my point but it doesn’t matter. Let’s just move on. My fault (again) mace 😂
I get it, sorry for the assumption of it being personal. I spend most days explaining to my children how inconsequential their little disagreements are, and the effects they have on one another.
I've said it before and I will say it again: I just love an overconfident maga. They shot themselves in the ear thinking this election was in the bag and that it was too late for Joe to drop out. lol
With the end of their convention, the Republican Party and Donald Trump have reached what in military theory is called the “culminating point.” “The culminating point of victory,” according to the Modern War Institute at West Point, “is the threshold when military advantages peak and then rapidly turn into disadvantages.”
As an infantryman, I was taught that the culminating point is a paradox; it’s a moment of maximum vulnerability at a time when you believe you are at maximum strength. Let’s say your platoon has just taken a hill. Exhausted and jubilant, you’ve achieved your objective. Your troops have sent the defeated enemy fleeing down its reverse slope. You stand triumphant atop that hill. Psychologically, you’re vulnerable to believing two things: that your victory is complete and that your enemy no longer poses a meaningful threat. The temptation then becomes to destroy the last of your enemy, to take more ground. If you do this, if you don’t recognize your culminating point, if you try to remain on the offensive too long instead of setting up a good defense, you become dangerously exposed to a counterattack by a regrouped enemy.
Republicans in Milwaukee this week were jubilant and a little exhausted. They’d taken the hill on their way to the White House. The photo of Trump in the immediate aftermath of the assassination attempt calls to mind the most memorable image of a hill-taking in American history, the photo of Marines on Mount Suribachi during the Battle of Iwo Jima: people’s positioning in the frame, the diagonal left-to-right composition, the flag.
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Following the attempt on his life, Trump posted on Truth Social about uniting the country. By striking a conciliatory and unifying tone, Trump seemed to recognize that he’d reached a culminating point, and that now was the time to consolidate gains and reach out to a wider swath of voters. But his selection of J. D. Vance as his running mate and his combative remarks when accepting his presidential nomination make clear that he will remain on the attack. This renders him vulnerable.
The Republicans may have peaked four months too soon. The Democrats’ best hope for victory is to regroup and vigorously exploit this vulnerability.
The military theorist Carl von Clausewitz, who fought in the Napoleonic Wars, coined the term culminating point in his treatise, On War. “If one were to go beyond that point, it would not merely be a useless effort which could not add to success,” he wrote. “It would in fact be a damaging one, which would lead to a reaction; and experience goes to show that such reactions usually have completely disproportionate effects.” History is littered with examples of victorious generals who disastrously overextended themselves once they had reached their culminating point. General Douglas MacArthur’s advance toward the Yalu River, which brought China into the Korean War and led to the encirclement of his army, is considered a classic example. Conversely, President George H. W. Bush’s decision at the end of the Gulf War not to pursue Saddam Hussein’s army into Iraq is a textbook example of a leader who understood that he’d reached his culminating point and needed to show forbearance.
To win, Democrats must regroup and counterattack. It seems more and more likely that President Joe Biden will suspend his campaign in the days ahead. If he does, Democrats must return to the first principles of this race: Americans have always wanted a choice other than Biden or Trump. Democrats must provide them with that choice in order to win. An open convention that is well run, with a process that’s perceived as fair, and that produces a fresh ticket, exploits this key Republican vulnerability.
The Democratic National Convention in Chicago is a month away. Several short campaigns followed by an open convention have the potential to reshape the race, to capture the nation’s attention and imagination. Upending the party’s presidential nominating process is a fraught prospect, but for Democrats, these are desperate times, and if they want to win, desperate measures are required. Vice President Kamala Harris likely would and should be considered, but she must compete. The Democrats have a deep bench of leadership. An open convention would showcase the next generation. That ticket would be forged in an unprecedented fire.
Will it work?
Maybe.
It is, of course, a huge gamble, a roll of the dice. But in politics, as in war, every attack is a roll of the iron dice.
And not just Biden...they got their convention bump which included a bump from the failed assassination attempt and interpreted that as a win four months out. Then tRump opened his mouth at the convention and reminded independents of how fucking monumentally stupid he is.
We're good.
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And not just Biden...they got their convention bump which included a bump from the failed assassination attempt and interpreted that as a win four months out. Then tRump opened his mouth at the convention and reminded independents of how fucking monumentally stupid he is.
We're good.
Most of the whole social media "I know SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many moderates and even liberals who are now voting for Trump" is probably so if he actually lost, they can cry about the election being stolen.
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And not just Biden...they got their convention bump which included a bump from the failed assassination attempt and interpreted that as a win four months out. Then tRump opened his mouth at the convention and reminded independents of how fucking monumentally stupid he is.
We're good.
The timing of this is really good. Doesn't feel like his ear getting grazed was months ago at this point? Their convention even feels like a while ago now.
And not just Biden...they got their convention bump which included a bump from the failed assassination attempt and interpreted that as a win four months out. Then tRump opened his mouth at the convention and reminded independents of how fucking monumentally stupid he is.
We're good.
The timing of this is really good. Doesn't feel like his ear getting grazed was months ago at this point? Their convention even feels like a while ago now.
If Trump was a normal person with emotions and empathy, that event could have been a huge rallying call to more people, but because he isn't, it gets moved on from rather quickly. His speech the other night proves it. It's not manly to break down and have emotions in front of others you know.
And not just Biden...they got their convention bump which included a bump from the failed assassination attempt and interpreted that as a win four months out. Then tRump opened his mouth at the convention and reminded independents of how fucking monumentally stupid he is.
We're good.
The timing of this is really good. Doesn't feel like his ear getting grazed was months ago at this point? Their convention even feels like a while ago now.
If Trump was a normal person with emotions and empathy, that event could have been a huge rallying call to more people, but because he isn't, it gets moved on from rather quickly. His speech the other night proves it. It's not manly to break down and have emotions in front of others you know.
Yeah and his response yesterday was fucking awful. Classic Trump that the majority of people hate. Love it.
1000$ he doesn’t do the scheduled debate for September there’s no way his camp lets him debate her! She’ll mop the floor with him
Then at every campaign stop, she calls him a coward. Hammer him on it. Challenge him. Humiliate him.
This^^^^ it’s time he gets a taste of what he dishes out every day! Like yesterday he instead of saying something decent about Biden stepping away he mocks the man unreal ! This after Biden called him and wished him well after the shooting g incident! Deplorable behavior
RFK Jr. floated a job in a Trump White House as he weighed endorsing Trump
The independent candidate suggested being given a senior job overseeing a portfolio of health and medical issues, an idea that the Trump campaign rejected.
Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. held talks this month with former president Donald Trump about endorsing his campaign and taking a job in a second Trump administration, overseeing a portfolio of health and medical issues, according to four people familiar with the matter.
The discussions, which began hours after the attempted assassination of Trump at a rally on July 13, did not result in an agreement amid concerns in Trump’s orbit about the complications of promising a job in exchange for a political endorsement, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations.
“All I will say to you is I am willing to talk to anybody from either political party who wants to talk about children’s health and how to end the chronic disease epidemic,” Kennedy said Monday in an interview, adding that Trump has been more open to him than the Democratic National Committee. “I have a lot of respect for President Trump for reaching out to me. Nobody from the DNC, high or low, has ever reached out to me in 18 months. Instead they have allocated millions to try to disrupt my campaign.”
Kennedy said he planned to continue his campaign. “We are in it to win it,” he said.
A person familiar with the conversations said a person who knows both men reached out to Kennedy on Saturday night, hours after the assassination attempt on Trump, after Kennedy had done cable news appearances to talk about the attack. Kennedy said he was open to speaking with Trump.
Kennedy and Trump agreed to meet in person in Milwaukee early last week during the Republican National Convention. Trump has been intrigued by Kennedy even as he publicly criticized him, the people familiar with the matter said.
Their discussions included possible jobs that Kennedy could be given in a second Trump administration, either at the Cabinet level or posts that do not require Senate confirmation. The discussion also included the prospect of Kennedy leaving the race and endorsing Trump, the people said.
The discussions surprised Trump and his aides. But there were concerns among some Trump advisers that Kennedy — a fervent critic of vaccines — would not be appropriate in such a job and that such an agreement could be problematic, the people said. Two of these people did not rule out the campaign eventually wanting Kennedy in the fold or potentially giving him a job in the administration if Trump wins.
The conversations ended without any definitive conclusion, the people said.
“President Trump met with RFK and they had a conversation about the issues just as he does regularly with important figures in business and politics because they all recognize he will be the next president of the United States,” said Danielle Alvarez, a Trump spokeswoman.
Trump and Kennedy’s private effort to cut a deal with each other contrasts with Kennedy’s public opposition to a second term for Trump or President Biden, who on Sunday bowed out of the presidential race and endorsed Vice President Harris.
In comments from Massachusetts on Sunday, Kennedy denounced the “corporate” leaders included by Trump in his administration in 2017, along with similar people whom Trump may consider hiring in a second term.
“This is the swamp. These are swamp creatures,” Kennedy said. “And his pick as vice president is a salute to the CIA, to the intelligence community and to the military industrial complex.”
Kennedy has previously called Trump’s suggestion that he would use the Justice Department to punish political opponents “reprehensible,” adding in an April CNN interview that “there are many things President Trump has done that are appalling.”
“With the lockdown, the mask mandates, the travel restrictions, President Trump presided over the greatest restriction on individual liberties this country has ever known,” Kennedy said in May at a Libertarian Party meeting.
Trump has also attacked Kennedy publicly, calling him a “Democrat ‘Plant’” and a “Radical Left Liberal.”
Kennedy is polling below 15 percent in most five-way surveys of the presidential contest that include both Trump and Biden, a cutoff that contributed to his failure to qualify for the CNN presidential debate in June.
Public polls have shown Kennedy’s campaign taking votes from both Biden and Trump in roughly equal measures. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll this month found 9 percent of registered voters saying they supported Kennedy in a five-way race that also included the Green Party’s Jill Stein and independent candidate Cornel West. When forced to choose between Biden and Trump, 31 percent of voters who supported Kennedy chose Trump, while 23 percent chose Biden.
Trump has repeatedly asked campaign advisers, guests at his Mar-a-Lago Club and others if Kennedy would help Biden or him in the presidential contest. He also posed the question for months whether he should pick Kennedy as his vice president. “Trump-Kennedy,” he would say, has a nice ring to it. But many of his advisers were against the idea, and Trump ended up choosing Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) as his running mate last week.
One call last week between Kennedy and Trump was recorded by a videographer team following Kennedy, with portions posted online. In one excerpt, Trump said he shares Kennedy’s concerns that children have been harmed by the current mandated schedule of vaccines, which has been found safe and effective by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other health authorities
“I agree with you, man. Something’s wrong with that whole system,” Trump said to Kennedy, who had the call on speakerphone.
“I want to do small doses, small doses,” Trump told Kennedy. “Remember, I said you want to do small doses. Small doses. When you feed a baby, Bobby, a vaccination that is like 38 different vaccines, and it looks like it’s meant for a horse, not a, you know, 10-pound or 20-pound baby.”
Trump has argued as far back as 2014 that children are being harmed by “1 massive dose” — which is not the way that commonly mandated vaccines are administered — and that vaccines may contribute to autism. The CDC and other health authorities have studied the claim and concluded that “vaccines do not cause autism” and that the current vaccination schedule is safe. Kennedy has continued to argue that the science is not conclusive, that more testing is required and that there is a link between vaccines and a rise in disorders such as autism.
Later during last week’s call, Trump encouraged Kennedy to “do something,” though it is not clear from the excerpt what they were specifically discussing.
“I would love you to do something,” Trump said. “And I think it would be so good for you. And so big for you. And we’re going to win. We’re going to win. We’re way ahead of the guy.”
Kennedy later apologized for what he said was a staff decision to post the video of the private phone call online. “I am mortified that this was posted,” Kennedy wrote on social media. “I apologize to the president.”
Kennedy met in 2016 and 2017 with the then-president-elect in Trump Tower in Manhattan to discuss vaccine safety. “He asked me to chair a commission on vaccine safety … and scientific integrity,” Kennedy said after the meeting. The role never materialized, and Kennedy later blamed other officials in the Trump administration for shifting course.
anybody know the story of why trump keeps invoking the late great hannibal lecter in his speeches? it's bizarre.
Best guess? To have it coincide with the far left wacko do nothing dems who are trying to make is okay to rip a baby out of a woman and then kill it (presumably so we can then eat it). All he has to do is speak it that way and the cult followers will hear it as truth.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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In a speech Thursday night in Milwaukee accepting the Republican nomination for president, Trump dramatically recounted the experience of narrowly missing a would-be assassin’s bullet at the Pennsylvania rally, saying he would describe what happened only once because it was “too painful to tell.”
As he turned his head to the right to see a chart on display at the rally, he recalled, “I started to turn to my right, and was ready to begin a further turn — which I’m lucky I didn’t — when I heard a loud whizzing sound and felt something hit me, really hard, on my right ear.”
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Jan. 6 rioter accused of giving Nazi salute sentenced to almost 5 years
Tyler Bradley Dykes, a former Marine who was previously convicted over a 2017 Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, used a stolen police shield during the Capitol assault.
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You know how people are worried about foreign investors buying up US farmland?There's a shady tech company that helps them do that! It's like Uber for buying US farmland, which upends generations of family farms and their communities.And who's one of its key investors, profiting off of every sale? J.D. Vance.
From what I can tell and based on the comments he’s referring to AcreTrade. Never heard of them, but he’s a description of what they are I found online.
”AcreTrader is a real estate crowdfunding platform that allows accredited investors to buy shares of farmland and other real assets:
Another source listed Vance’s investment as in the category as less than $15,000. That’s hardly a key investor.
Key investor vs Investor
Mickey posted a link that says Vance is a key investor for a shady company that helps foreign investors buy farmland.
My response is Vance invested less than $15,000. That doesn’t seem like a “key investor” to me. I’m sure they’d be just fine without him, and Vance was in finance that probably had hundreds of investments. He’s probably not involved at all other than having a few thousands dollars invested.
The company in question doesn’t sell farmland to foreigners. They help investors invest. They probably allows foreigns to invest in sure. But helping foreign investors buy our farmland is a stretch when they are just an investment company, they don’t even sell real estate.
To say the company he is a “key investor” in sells farmland to foreign investors seems inaccurate and at the very least misleading, if just not flat out wrong.
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I would not personally consider $15k as a key investment in real estate, but that’s my opinion. A contribution is a contribution no matter what the amount. One is an opinion, and the other is fact. Nothing to get worked up over.
A donation to a group is different than an investment. I don’t care for 5-guys. If I thought they’d make good money, I’d invest in them though. I’d never donate to a group I don’t believe in.
The company in question is an investment brokerage that works with farms and helps manage them. Through them, you can invest in a farm. I see nothing shady about that. Lots of business need investors. Many farms are no different. From what I can tell, They don’t target foreigners as customers and they don’t sell any land.
To say Vance is a key investor in a shady company that sells form land to foreigners isn’t accurate.
You can say he has a small investment in a company that invests in farm land. That doesn’t seem like an issue at all to me. It also isn’t a catchy headline.
I also responded because Mickey will share multiple social media posts. I don’t click on most of them. But the 2 I did click on recently are misleading.
The other one was a claim that Vance is Venmo friends with a list of people, that included someone connected to project 25 and some judges or lawyers Trump doesn’t like. When checking on that, it is true he is Venmo friends with those people. But were likely automatically added as friends from his phone contacts when the account was created in 2016 when he was a lawyer and there is no evidence of any financial relationship or transaction. So while true, the headline is misleading. Seems like no big deal to me at all when you read the truth about it.
If I click on a link and decide to check the validity of the claim for myself, I like to share what I read.
I get it, sorry for the assumption of it being personal. I spend most days explaining to my children how inconsequential their little disagreements are, and the effects they have on one another.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-BB1qm73w
The Trump Campaign Has Peaked Too Soon
With the end of their convention, the Republican Party and Donald Trump have reached what in military theory is called the “culminating point.” “The culminating point of victory,” according to the Modern War Institute at West Point, “is the threshold when military advantages peak and then rapidly turn into disadvantages.”
As an infantryman, I was taught that the culminating point is a paradox; it’s a moment of maximum vulnerability at a time when you believe you are at maximum strength. Let’s say your platoon has just taken a hill. Exhausted and jubilant, you’ve achieved your objective. Your troops have sent the defeated enemy fleeing down its reverse slope. You stand triumphant atop that hill. Psychologically, you’re vulnerable to believing two things: that your victory is complete and that your enemy no longer poses a meaningful threat. The temptation then becomes to destroy the last of your enemy, to take more ground. If you do this, if you don’t recognize your culminating point, if you try to remain on the offensive too long instead of setting up a good defense, you become dangerously exposed to a counterattack by a regrouped enemy.
Republicans in Milwaukee this week were jubilant and a little exhausted. They’d taken the hill on their way to the White House. The photo of Trump in the immediate aftermath of the assassination attempt calls to mind the most memorable image of a hill-taking in American history, the photo of Marines on Mount Suribachi during the Battle of Iwo Jima: people’s positioning in the frame, the diagonal left-to-right composition, the flag.
Following the attempt on his life, Trump posted on Truth Social about uniting the country. By striking a conciliatory and unifying tone, Trump seemed to recognize that he’d reached a culminating point, and that now was the time to consolidate gains and reach out to a wider swath of voters. But his selection of J. D. Vance as his running mate and his combative remarks when accepting his presidential nomination make clear that he will remain on the attack. This renders him vulnerable.
The Republicans may have peaked four months too soon. The Democrats’ best hope for victory is to regroup and vigorously exploit this vulnerability.
The military theorist Carl von Clausewitz, who fought in the Napoleonic Wars, coined the term culminating point in his treatise, On War. “If one were to go beyond that point, it would not merely be a useless effort which could not add to success,” he wrote. “It would in fact be a damaging one, which would lead to a reaction; and experience goes to show that such reactions usually have completely disproportionate effects.” History is littered with examples of victorious generals who disastrously overextended themselves once they had reached their culminating point. General Douglas MacArthur’s advance toward the Yalu River, which brought China into the Korean War and led to the encirclement of his army, is considered a classic example. Conversely, President George H. W. Bush’s decision at the end of the Gulf War not to pursue Saddam Hussein’s army into Iraq is a textbook example of a leader who understood that he’d reached his culminating point and needed to show forbearance.
To win, Democrats must regroup and counterattack. It seems more and more likely that President Joe Biden will suspend his campaign in the days ahead. If he does, Democrats must return to the first principles of this race: Americans have always wanted a choice other than Biden or Trump. Democrats must provide them with that choice in order to win. An open convention that is well run, with a process that’s perceived as fair, and that produces a fresh ticket, exploits this key Republican vulnerability.
The Democratic National Convention in Chicago is a month away. Several short campaigns followed by an open convention have the potential to reshape the race, to capture the nation’s attention and imagination. Upending the party’s presidential nominating process is a fraught prospect, but for Democrats, these are desperate times, and if they want to win, desperate measures are required. Vice President Kamala Harris likely would and should be considered, but she must compete. The Democrats have a deep bench of leadership. An open convention would showcase the next generation. That ticket would be forged in an unprecedented fire.
Will it work?
Maybe.
It is, of course, a huge gamble, a roll of the dice. But in politics, as in war, every attack is a roll of the iron dice.
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RFK Jr. floated a job in a Trump White House as he weighed endorsing Trump
The independent candidate suggested being given a senior job overseeing a portfolio of health and medical issues, an idea that the Trump campaign rejected.
Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. held talks this month with former president Donald Trump about endorsing his campaign and taking a job in a second Trump administration, overseeing a portfolio of health and medical issues, according to four people familiar with the matter.
The discussions, which began hours after the attempted assassination of Trump at a rally on July 13, did not result in an agreement amid concerns in Trump’s orbit about the complications of promising a job in exchange for a political endorsement, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations.
“All I will say to you is I am willing to talk to anybody from either political party who wants to talk about children’s health and how to end the chronic disease epidemic,” Kennedy said Monday in an interview, adding that Trump has been more open to him than the Democratic National Committee. “I have a lot of respect for President Trump for reaching out to me. Nobody from the DNC, high or low, has ever reached out to me in 18 months. Instead they have allocated millions to try to disrupt my campaign.”
Kennedy said he planned to continue his campaign. “We are in it to win it,” he said.
A person familiar with the conversations said a person who knows both men reached out to Kennedy on Saturday night, hours after the assassination attempt on Trump, after Kennedy had done cable news appearances to talk about the attack. Kennedy said he was open to speaking with Trump.
Kennedy and Trump agreed to meet in person in Milwaukee early last week during the Republican National Convention. Trump has been intrigued by Kennedy even as he publicly criticized him, the people familiar with the matter said.
Their discussions included possible jobs that Kennedy could be given in a second Trump administration, either at the Cabinet level or posts that do not require Senate confirmation. The discussion also included the prospect of Kennedy leaving the race and endorsing Trump, the people said.
The discussions surprised Trump and his aides. But there were concerns among some Trump advisers that Kennedy — a fervent critic of vaccines — would not be appropriate in such a job and that such an agreement could be problematic, the people said. Two of these people did not rule out the campaign eventually wanting Kennedy in the fold or potentially giving him a job in the administration if Trump wins.
The conversations ended without any definitive conclusion, the people said.
“President Trump met with RFK and they had a conversation about the issues just as he does regularly with important figures in business and politics because they all recognize he will be the next president of the United States,” said Danielle Alvarez, a Trump spokeswoman.
Trump and Kennedy’s private effort to cut a deal with each other contrasts with Kennedy’s public opposition to a second term for Trump or President Biden, who on Sunday bowed out of the presidential race and endorsed Vice President Harris.
In comments from Massachusetts on Sunday, Kennedy denounced the “corporate” leaders included by Trump in his administration in 2017, along with similar people whom Trump may consider hiring in a second term.
“This is the swamp. These are swamp creatures,” Kennedy said. “And his pick as vice president is a salute to the CIA, to the intelligence community and to the military industrial complex.”
Kennedy has previously called Trump’s suggestion that he would use the Justice Department to punish political opponents “reprehensible,” adding in an April CNN interview that “there are many things President Trump has done that are appalling.”
“With the lockdown, the mask mandates, the travel restrictions, President Trump presided over the greatest restriction on individual liberties this country has ever known,” Kennedy said in May at a Libertarian Party meeting.
Trump has also attacked Kennedy publicly, calling him a “Democrat ‘Plant’” and a “Radical Left Liberal.”
Kennedy is polling below 15 percent in most five-way surveys of the presidential contest that include both Trump and Biden, a cutoff that contributed to his failure to qualify for the CNN presidential debate in June.
Public polls have shown Kennedy’s campaign taking votes from both Biden and Trump in roughly equal measures. A Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll this month found 9 percent of registered voters saying they supported Kennedy in a five-way race that also included the Green Party’s Jill Stein and independent candidate Cornel West. When forced to choose between Biden and Trump, 31 percent of voters who supported Kennedy chose Trump, while 23 percent chose Biden.
Trump has repeatedly asked campaign advisers, guests at his Mar-a-Lago Club and others if Kennedy would help Biden or him in the presidential contest. He also posed the question for months whether he should pick Kennedy as his vice president. “Trump-Kennedy,” he would say, has a nice ring to it. But many of his advisers were against the idea, and Trump ended up choosing Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) as his running mate last week.
One call last week between Kennedy and Trump was recorded by a videographer team following Kennedy, with portions posted online. In one excerpt, Trump said he shares Kennedy’s concerns that children have been harmed by the current mandated schedule of vaccines, which has been found safe and effective by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other health authorities
“I agree with you, man. Something’s wrong with that whole system,” Trump said to Kennedy, who had the call on speakerphone.
“I want to do small doses, small doses,” Trump told Kennedy. “Remember, I said you want to do small doses. Small doses. When you feed a baby, Bobby, a vaccination that is like 38 different vaccines, and it looks like it’s meant for a horse, not a, you know, 10-pound or 20-pound baby.”
Trump has argued as far back as 2014 that children are being harmed by “1 massive dose” — which is not the way that commonly mandated vaccines are administered — and that vaccines may contribute to autism. The CDC and other health authorities have studied the claim and concluded that “vaccines do not cause autism” and that the current vaccination schedule is safe. Kennedy has continued to argue that the science is not conclusive, that more testing is required and that there is a link between vaccines and a rise in disorders such as autism.
Later during last week’s call, Trump encouraged Kennedy to “do something,” though it is not clear from the excerpt what they were specifically discussing.
“I would love you to do something,” Trump said. “And I think it would be so good for you. And so big for you. And we’re going to win. We’re going to win. We’re way ahead of the guy.”
Kennedy later apologized for what he said was a staff decision to post the video of the private phone call online. “I am mortified that this was posted,” Kennedy wrote on social media. “I apologize to the president.”
Kennedy met in 2016 and 2017 with the then-president-elect in Trump Tower in Manhattan to discuss vaccine safety. “He asked me to chair a commission on vaccine safety … and scientific integrity,” Kennedy said after the meeting. The role never materialized, and Kennedy later blamed other officials in the Trump administration for shifting course.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/rfk-jr-floated-job-trump-white-house-he-weighed-endorsing-trump/
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