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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Poncier said:
    Baier is the most reasonable Fox host (low bar I know). Surprised Trump would sit down with him and not one of the usual sycophants.

    I believe he did sit down with Hannity recently, and was a mess then, too.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Poncier said:
    mfc2006 said:
    That interview was bonkers. 
    Astounds me that people can watch that and believe every word he says.

    He's like a Rorschach test -- people pick and choose the pieces they like from his word salad and then go "Yeah! Damn right!"

    So, yes, he has documents, but not about Iran, but he had said he had the plans to invade Iran, but they were just clippings about Iran, and he was talking big because he hates Gen. Milley, but if they were the real war plans, he's pretty sure they were declassified and he has a right to have them, but even if they weren't declassified, he could have declassified them, but he didn't have them, unless they were in a box with his shoes and his golf shirts.

    That's essentially what he said last night. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense, logically, but if you just hear the parts you want to hear, you can string together an argument, or fist-pumping lib ownership, or something.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
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    gimmesometruth27 said:

    Wait....is Tom Fitton his new attorney?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
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    Poncier said:
    Baier is the most reasonable Fox host (low bar I know). Surprised Trump would sit down with him and not one of the usual sycophants.
    Trump is toast. I think even the maga's are coming around to this fact...
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,458
    The Juggler said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    Wait....is Tom Fitton his new attorney?

    advisor apparently.  like going with his recommendations over the lawyers.....
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    The Juggler said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    Wait....is Tom Fitton his new attorney?

    He's not an attorney.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    The Juggler said:
    Poncier said:
    Baier is the most reasonable Fox host (low bar I know). Surprised Trump would sit down with him and not one of the usual sycophants.
    Trump is toast. I think even the maga's are coming around to this fact...

    I don't know. It's a cult, and so many of them are willing to tie themselves up in knots creating a narrative that fits their worldview that I don't think there's anything that would cause them to abandon him. Some people were claiming that the recording of him brandishing the Iran invasion plans was AI-generated.

    Now, I DO think that there are a few voters who are "gettable." Would they abandon him because now, after all this everything, he has crossed some red line that they still have? Ehh, I doubt it, but, maybe? More likely is that they're just exhausted by him or they think he can't win.

    But those gettable voters are important! The 2024 election will be won on the margins, in the swing states. Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan -- eroding his support in those states and getting voters to turn out for Biden, instead, is the key to a Dem victory in 2024 (Biden could win 99% of the vote in California, and that doesn't get him any more electoral votes than a narrow victory there would).

    Anyway:

    I'll go ahead and say it now: when TFG dies, his base will either 1) Claim that the "Biden Crime Syndicate" had him murdered, 2) Insist that he's not dead, because someone saw him in the frozen foods aisle in a Piggly Wiggly (with Elvis and/or JFK, no doubt), or 3) both, because everyone knows that he's Superman and is the strongest, fittest, healthiest man ever to have lived. Bet on it.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    2023
    curmudgeoness said:
    The Juggler said:
    Poncier said:
    Baier is the most reasonable Fox host (low bar I know). Surprised Trump would sit down with him and not one of the usual sycophants.
    Trump is toast. I think even the maga's are coming around to this fact...

    I don't know. It's a cult, and so many of them are willing to tie themselves up in knots creating a narrative that fits their worldview that I don't think there's anything that would cause them to abandon him. Some people were claiming that the recording of him brandishing the Iran invasion plans was AI-generated.

    Now, I DO think that there are a few voters who are "gettable." Would they abandon him because now, after all this everything, he has crossed some red line that they still have? Ehh, I doubt it, but, maybe? More likely is that they're just exhausted by him or they think he can't win.

    But those gettable voters are important! The 2024 election will be won on the margins, in the swing states. Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan -- eroding his support in those states and getting voters to turn out for Biden, instead, is the key to a Dem victory in 2024 (Biden could win 99% of the vote in California, and that doesn't get him any more electoral votes than a narrow victory there would).

    Anyway:

    I'll go ahead and say it now: when TFG dies, his base will either 1) Claim that the "Biden Crime Syndicate" had him murdered, 2) Insist that he's not dead, because someone saw him in the frozen foods aisle in a Piggly Wiggly (with Elvis and/or JFK, no doubt), or 3) both, because everyone knows that he's Superman and is the strongest, fittest, healthiest man ever to have lived. Bet on it.
    Guess I should clarify that I don't think they will suddenly become reasonable again. I just mean I feel as if some of them will abandon him for Desantis or someone else because they're getting tired of the baggage. I don't see any sizeable portion of the people who still backed him now as gettable voters for the dems. They'll just hop onto what they feel is the next best thing which might be Desantis, though his campaign is off to a horrendous start. 

    I really, really, really, hope Trump mans up and agrees to the debates. Christie will absolutely clean his clock---but it's for that reason that I think Trump will try to skip it. 

    Agreed on your last paragraph. haha
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    There is a part 2 of the interview on tonight.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    There is a part 2 of the interview on tonight.
    How awesome is that! 
  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    mrussel1 said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    There is a part 2 of the interview on tonight.
    How awesome is that! 
    Pretty fricking awesome.
    I wonder if he's having any regrets....nah. He's probably telling himself he did a great interview and everyone loved the 1st part.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,561
    curmudgeoness said:
    The Juggler said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    Wait....is Tom Fitton his new attorney?

    He's not an attorney.
    That’s what I was thinking because I would point that out in his twitter feed until I got blocked. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
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    RunIntoTheRain said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    There is a part 2 of the interview on tonight.
    How awesome is that! 
    Pretty fricking awesome.
    I wonder if he's having any regrets....nah. He's probably telling himself he did a great interview and everyone loved the 1st part.
    Oh my god. What an unimaginable idiot. 

    I can't wait to update the thread title for a third time later this summer too. lol
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,458
    The Juggler said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    There is a part 2 of the interview on tonight.
    How awesome is that! 
    Pretty fricking awesome.
    I wonder if he's having any regrets....nah. He's probably telling himself he did a great interview and everyone loved the 1st part.
    Oh my god. What an unimaginable idiot. 

    I can't wait to update the thread title for a third time later this summer too. lol
    still think an efit to include the number of charges per indictment is needed.

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  • mickeyrat
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  • curmudgeoness
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    Haven't watched "Part 2"' clips yet, but, uh, this is real:


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  • ikiT
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/21/opinion/chris-christie-trump-republicans.html?unlocked_article_code=qTyJDcOz_heKc5aLYbxKorRSUGsf89-N4pAzeumAiit7g2x36JiTP3f_nZS77mcLesCL9hhABu_IT-9HynXaLtWm2BWETKM0hdXLiliTtqlnzio2aik8pmY83uvlydXEz8OM49U5z67c6g4NWMCxrrsrm9b_GBQY8GEqVAMeq3O8X-q0Dhbdb47b6JylbIrGFLmuwes0AV78jIylIbFQuObqgnihGYF9T6uY9G9EWSUZ_zcczc3f-F7-5_FdR92lv2cP-Q1xn5Kf4qZKLZD4NZZ-7jIeZI2AIhhc2Fz5l61u1oufJpR_qsDwg7covc_LiytPMXEu0FTA_aTtGO-hEc_Paotva4CxLp4&smid=url-share

    Gift article

    Chris Christie made a complete fool of himself back in 2016, fan-dancing obsequiously around Donald Trump, angling for a crucial role in his administration, nattering on about their friendship, pretending or possibly even convincing himself that Trump could restrain his ego, check his nastiness, suspend his grift and, well, serve America. But then Christie, the former two-term governor of New Jersey, had plenty of company. And he never did style himself as some saint.
    It’s all water under the George Washington Bridge now. The Chris Christie of the current moment is magnificent. I don’t mean magnificent as in, he’s going to win the Republican presidential nomination. I don’t mean I’m rooting for a Christie presidency and regard him as the country’s possible salvation.
    But what he’s doing in this Republican primary is very, very important. It also couldn’t be more emotionally gratifying to behold. He’s telling the unvarnished truth about Trump, and he’s the only candidate doing that. A former prosecutor, he’s artfully, aggressively and comprehensively making the case against Trump, knocking down all the rationalizations Trump has mustered and all the diversions he has contrived since his 37-count federal indictment.....


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    For those keeping score. I look forward to the ham sammich references.


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