---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

Gern Blansten

2023

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/09/opinion/trump-indictment-documents.html?unlocked_article_code=kdBAbsTQ5MrsXxQPREDGE_Ah_XPyGoNKQDNQ8nZ8xLdIYztMJQzswHyg4ekNzzv94J2g3tetddpclTyFJOwrWLmNZ9dc_uU0dCsPdvdpVOtCo8qMmeXJsPeSTVTRdxc60g6OGBX0DhoCpRV08nLX2An8GNrdZ8SB2CImPhknCKUUPyo201oCliji5jLEZkQ3O14ymBwoKPY24p7y_74zCUs4xjFqae2maDpJ4RxXjwXD3exYD7wM-xyverKAC38kl4cbttv6y0wyrgY-tk5e1rD_gAZlNkeYebZQf24jpBnQAGuamMt_r9G2_ZeNtg4lZY0auwoBEZNemSiHJO2mo6t0a9A&smid=url-share

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Gern Blansten

2023

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-indictment-documents-mark-milley-mar-a-lago/

I saw some discussion about this yesterday. The audio from that conversation where tRump was discussing the secret document relates to him trying to discredit Milley. 

I guess I like that explanation better than him wanting to sell it to Iran or something....but I still wouldn't put that past him.

Gern Blansten

2023

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trumps-indictment-very-damning-even-half-true

tRump's former AG says he's "toast" if even half of the items in the indictment are true. Also says that the "witch hunt" defense won't work.

How powerful is it that a member of his own cabinet (and head of the DOJ) makes a statement like this?

It is mind blowing how people just brush this aside and continue on defending that piece of shit.

Merkin Baller

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trumps-indictment-very-damning-even-half-true

tRump's former AG says he's "toast" if even half of the items in the indictment are true. Also says that the "witch hunt" defense won't work.

How powerful is it that a member of his own cabinet (and head of the DOJ) makes a statement like this?

It is mind blowing how people just brush this aside and continue on defending that piece of shit.

It really is... they've done such an amazing job working over their base and convincing them that up is down, black is white etc etc. 

What also blows my mind is the people who still seem to think this is politics as usual, and 'both sides" & whatnot. 

The ignorance and apathy are hard to comprehend.  

Gern Blansten

2023

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trumps-indictment-very-damning-even-half-true

tRump's former AG says he's "toast" if even half of the items in the indictment are true. Also says that the "witch hunt" defense won't work.

How powerful is it that a member of his own cabinet (and head of the DOJ) makes a statement like this?

It is mind blowing how people just brush this aside and continue on defending that piece of shit.

It really is... they've done such an amazing job working over their base and convincing them that up is down, black is white etc etc. 

What also blows my mind is the people who still seem to think this is politics as usual, and 'both sides" & whatnot. 

The ignorance and apathy are hard to comprehend.  

Did you see Lindsay Graham's performance on This Week yesterday morning? Holy fucking shit.

Gern Blansten

2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4wPQCCxp7M

curmudgeoness

Interesting thread from Juliettte Kayyem on the threat of violence:

https://twitter.com/juliettekayyem/status/1668229820470239232 

I think her assessment is reasonable: the J6 level of organization is lacking, law enforcement knows it ought to be prepared this time, still -- Florida -- and it's going to be a bumpy ride for the next few years.

curmudgeoness

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trumps-indictment-very-damning-even-half-true

tRump's former AG says he's "toast" if even half of the items in the indictment are true. Also says that the "witch hunt" defense won't work.

How powerful is it that a member of his own cabinet (and head of the DOJ) makes a statement like this?

It is mind blowing how people just brush this aside and continue on defending that piece of shit.

It really is... they've done such an amazing job working over their base and convincing them that up is down, black is white etc etc. 

What also blows my mind is the people who still seem to think this is politics as usual, and 'both sides" & whatnot. 

The ignorance and apathy are hard to comprehend.  

Did you see Lindsay Graham's performance on This Week yesterday morning? Holy fucking shit.

Reminder to all that The Bulwark has made Will Saletan's e-book (106 pages or so) on Lindsey Graham available to everyone, if you're wondering "what happened to that guy??"

Bill Barr is many things, few of them good, but he's not stupid.This is flagrant, blatant criming.

Merkin Baller

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trumps-indictment-very-damning-even-half-true

tRump's former AG says he's "toast" if even half of the items in the indictment are true. Also says that the "witch hunt" defense won't work.

How powerful is it that a member of his own cabinet (and head of the DOJ) makes a statement like this?

It is mind blowing how people just brush this aside and continue on defending that piece of shit.

It really is... they've done such an amazing job working over their base and convincing them that up is down, black is white etc etc. 

What also blows my mind is the people who still seem to think this is politics as usual, and 'both sides" & whatnot. 

The ignorance and apathy are hard to comprehend.  

Did you see Lindsay Graham's performance on This Week yesterday morning? Holy fucking shit.

It was wild. 

I would really love to hear from someone still supportive of the GOP as to what they think the end game is here. 

mrussel1

curmudgeoness said:

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trumps-indictment-very-damning-even-half-true

tRump's former AG says he's "toast" if even half of the items in the indictment are true. Also says that the "witch hunt" defense won't work.

How powerful is it that a member of his own cabinet (and head of the DOJ) makes a statement like this?

It is mind blowing how people just brush this aside and continue on defending that piece of shit.

It really is... they've done such an amazing job working over their base and convincing them that up is down, black is white etc etc. 

What also blows my mind is the people who still seem to think this is politics as usual, and 'both sides" & whatnot. 

The ignorance and apathy are hard to comprehend.  

Did you see Lindsay Graham's performance on This Week yesterday morning? Holy fucking shit.

Reminder to all that The Bulwark has made Will Saletan's e-book (106 pages or so) on Lindsey Graham available to everyone, if you're wondering "what happened to that guy??"

Bill Barr is many things, few of them good, but he's not stupid.This is flagrant, blatant criming.

Blackmail is a helluva thing. 

Halifax2TheMax

2023

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trumps-indictment-very-damning-even-half-true

tRump's former AG says he's "toast" if even half of the items in the indictment are true. Also says that the "witch hunt" defense won't work.

How powerful is it that a member of his own cabinet (and head of the DOJ) makes a statement like this?

It is mind blowing how people just brush this aside and continue on defending that piece of shit.

It really is... they've done such an amazing job working over their base and convincing them that up is down, black is white etc etc. 

What also blows my mind is the people who still seem to think this is politics as usual, and 'both sides" & whatnot. 

The ignorance and apathy are hard to comprehend.  

Did you see Lindsay Graham's performance on This Week yesterday morning? Holy fucking shit.

It was wild. 

I would really love to hear from someone still supportive of the GOP as to what they think the end game is here. 

Draining the swamp, saving us from liberalism/socialism, saving the white race and implementing a 200 year reich of a white, Christian, repub lead government in all three branches and all of society, duh.

Gern Blansten

2023

I think things will settle down...the initial outrage will calm and as more details emerge it will get harder and harder for people to defend him.

Or...he'll be elected and pardon himself

curmudgeoness

Gern Blansten said:

I think things will settle down...the initial outrage will calm and as more details emerge it will get harder and harder for people to defend him.

Or...he'll be elected and pardon himself

Can he lose enough support to be unelectable, that's the question.

Reminder to all of us that it's the voters along the margins in the swing states that matter -- the "gettable" voters, hard as it is to imagine that there are people who still have some red line for behavior that he hasn't crossed.

Gern Blansten

2023

curmudgeoness said:

Gern Blansten said:

I think things will settle down...the initial outrage will calm and as more details emerge it will get harder and harder for people to defend him.

Or...he'll be elected and pardon himself

Can he lose enough support to be unelectable, that's the question.

Reminder to all of us that it's the voters along the margins in the swing states that matter -- the "gettable" voters, hard as it is to imagine that there are people who still have some red line for behavior that he hasn't crossed.

I'm thinking about 35% of GOP voters will reject him. That's enough.

HughFreakingDillon

2024

lindsay graham reminds me of that meme that conservatives always use for "liberal outrage". that screaming woman who looks like Bubbles from trailer park boys. 

then at the very end he turns off his performance "thank YOU". 

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

lindsay graham reminds me of that meme that conservatives always use for "liberal outrage". that screaming woman who looks like Bubbles from trailer park boys. 

then at the very end he turns off his performance "thank YOU". 

Dude was  yelling as the interview started.  It's obvious why he's being so defensive.  He knows it's a total crap defense.  

brianlux

2023

curmudgeoness said:

@brianlux

I think there's a real threat, and certain loons like Kari Lake are trying to incite violence. I also think that that 12 million number is overblown.

I definitely believe that there are 12 million internet tough guys who like to talk big about how much a$$ they would kick, if only they could; a lot of them wildly overestimate their own abilities. A lot of them also seem to think that video games are real life.

That said, I think there are enough people capable of committing violence in the name of this guy and his cult that we should be -- alert? concerned? wary?

Yeah, I agree that there is high potential for violence.  The problem is, there really is nothing we can do to predict where and when it will happen.  About all one can do is go on with your life and hope for the best.  One thing for sure- I avoid being in places with crowds of people.  No that that necessarily makes a difference, but I have become wary of crowds.

But that said, I'm more concerned about the leaders who have opposed 45.  They are the ones more likely to be targeted.  I hope the all have good security staff.

mfc2006

2024

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

lindsay graham reminds me of that meme that conservatives always use for "liberal outrage". that screaming woman who looks like Bubbles from trailer park boys. 

then at the very end he turns off his performance "thank YOU". 

Dude was  yelling as the interview started.  It's obvious why he's being so defensive.  He knows it's a total crap defense.  

Yup. Graham is an idiot.

curmudgeoness

mfc2006 said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

lindsay graham reminds me of that meme that conservatives always use for "liberal outrage". that screaming woman who looks like Bubbles from trailer park boys. 

then at the very end he turns off his performance "thank YOU". 

Dude was  yelling as the interview started.  It's obvious why he's being so defensive.  He knows it's a total crap defense.  

Yup. Graham is an idiot.

I have to disagree with you there; he's not an idiot. Some of the wingnuts in the House? They're idiots. Graham absolutely knows better. Barr and Bolton are speaking up, Graham can, too.

HughFreakingDillon

2024

I don't think matt meant idiot as in "stupid". he meant idiot as in "jackass"