---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

mickeyrat · January 2

Choccoloccotide said:

His ranking will only get better after he completes his 2nd term.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1874873403796328590

link the poll itself. Google isnt showing it . inly economist polling is from the election.

mrussel1 · January 2

Agreed. I looked for the poll and there is nothing about it.

Shirley our friend validated information with an easy cross-check before posting…. Shirley

GlowGirl · January 2

Choccoloccotide said:

His ranking will only get better after he completes his 2nd term.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1874873403796328590

Ugh! I hated Reagan.

The Juggler · January 3

2023

Folks....now hold on just a minute here. Are you insinuating our chocolate maga friend has been duped by fake news? Say it ain't so.

tbergs · January 3

The Juggler said:

Folks....now hold on just a minute here. Are you insinuating our chocolate maga friend has been duped by fake news? Say it ain't so.

Not duped, they're a bastion of fake news and love it because it owns dems with salacious screen grabs without supporting documentation. Chat GPT would be a better forum member and actually cite real information.

These people don't read, they just look at pictures and go yep, meets my slanted view, post!

Halifax2TheMax · January 3

2023

Seems Twin Peak’s Agent Cooper is on the case and it appears he’s got more facts than some posters here. Hey, it’s the age we live in.

Tesla fans say Cybertruck muffled Vegas blast. Not so fast, experts say.

The fact that more people weren’t killed might have more to do with the nature of the materials that started the conflagration.

The Tesla Cybertruck that exploded Wednesday in front of Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas — which was left burned out but largely intact — has invited a wave of online praise for its tough steel exterior. Seven bystanders were injured, but the only fatality was inside the truck. Even the hotel’s glass front doors were spared.

“Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upward,” Tesla chief executive Elon Musk said in a social media post on X late Wednesday, echoing earlier comments from a city sheriff.

But the surprising lack of damage caused by the blast is also a function of the apparently low-grade explosives used in the incident, according to experts who spoke to The Washington Post.

A blast caused by fireworks and fuel might have had a similar effect had it been in a different vehicle, said electric-vehicle experts Richard Meier of Meier Fire Investigations and Karl Brauer, executive analyst at ISeeCars.com.

Videos of the event indicate that a lot of heat was generated by an initial explosion, followed by a subsequent fire in the bed of the truck that could have come from batteries overheating, noted Brauer.

“You didn’t really have an explosion as much as you had a bonfire,” he said. “I’m not at all convinced that the Cybertruck being so strong is the reason it blew upward.”

Kenneth Cooper, special agent in charge of the San Francisco division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told reporters Thursday that it’s too early to know how the detonation started.

The driver of the truck is believed to be a 37-year-old Army Special Forces soldier named Matthew Livelsberger, although his identity has not yet been confirmed because the body was burned beyond recognition. Authorities said he probably died by suicide.

Investigators have so far mostly found evidence of fireworks, fuel and sport-shooting targets, Cooper said, adding: “The level of sophistication is not what we would expect from an individual with this type of military experience.”

Videos of the event and pictures of the blown-up vehicle seem to suggest that pressure from the blast was released through the windows and the bed of the truck, Brauer and two other experts said.

Meier said the evidence seems to indicate a “low-grade” explosion that would have generated a lot of heat and fire. But there was no blast wave that could break or shatter nearby materials, he said, whereas a so-called “high explosive,” such as C-4 would have built up pressure faster than what could be released through the windows and torn the truck apart.

If the vehicle had not been coated in steel, “you may get a little more shrapnel coming off of it, but generally speaking [the explosion] would not be that different,” added Meier.

Investigators have not yet said whether the electric vehicle’s batteries were part of the explosion.

When electric vehicle batteries catch fire, they can be difficult to put out because they heat the other battery cells around them, leading to a chain reaction of fires, according to Sean DeCrane, health and safety director at the International Association of Fire Fighters — and extinguishing this requires lowering the heat of the other battery cells by dousing them with water.

However, unless the vehicle is in a confined space or parked close to other electric vehicles, the danger from such a fire would mostly be limited to anyone who is in the vehicle or immediately near it, DeCrane said.

In the case of the Las Vegas Cybertruck, “it seemed to me that the body was still intact and the detonation failed the windows,” he added.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/02/cybertruck-explosion-damage-tesla-design-elon-musk/

josevolution · January 3

2025

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/state/donald-trump-religion/

What are you then? 🤣🤣 what a great Christian ha he hasn’t set foot in a church since the mass for his 1st wife!

Hawk123 · January 3

josevolution said:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/state/donald-trump-religion/
What are you then? 🤣🤣 what a great Christian ha he hasn’t set foot in a church since the mass for his 1st wife!

But he has his own endorsed bible? What a loser.

https://godblesstheusabible.com

Gern Blansten · January 3

2023

Halifax2TheMax said:

Seems Twin Peak’s Agent Cooper is on the case and it appears he’s got more facts than some posters here. Hey, it’s the age we live in.

Tesla fans say Cybertruck muffled Vegas blast. Not so fast, experts say.
The fact that more people weren’t killed might have more to do with the nature of the materials that started the conflagration.
The Tesla Cybertruck that exploded Wednesday in front of Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas — which was left burned out but largely intact — has invited a wave of online praise for its tough steel exterior. Seven bystanders were injured, but the only fatality was inside the truck. Even the hotel’s glass front doors were spared.
“Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upward,” Tesla chief executive Elon Musk said in a social media post on X late Wednesday, echoing earlier comments from a city sheriff.
But the surprising lack of damage caused by the blast is also a function of the apparently low-grade explosives used in the incident, according to experts who spoke to The Washington Post.
A blast caused by fireworks and fuel might have had a similar effect had it been in a different vehicle, said electric-vehicle experts Richard Meier of Meier Fire Investigations and Karl Brauer, executive analyst at ISeeCars.com.
Videos of the event indicate that a lot of heat was generated by an initial explosion, followed by a subsequent fire in the bed of the truck that could have come from batteries overheating, noted Brauer.
“You didn’t really have an explosion as much as you had a bonfire,” he said. “I’m not at all convinced that the Cybertruck being so strong is the reason it blew upward.”
Kenneth Cooper, special agent in charge of the San Francisco division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told reporters Thursday that it’s too early to know how the detonation started.
The driver of the truck is believed to be a 37-year-old Army Special Forces soldier named Matthew Livelsberger, although his identity has not yet been confirmed because the body was burned beyond recognition. Authorities said he probably died by suicide.
Investigators have so far mostly found evidence of fireworks, fuel and sport-shooting targets, Cooper said, adding: “The level of sophistication is not what we would expect from an individual with this type of military experience.”
Videos of the event and pictures of the blown-up vehicle seem to suggest that pressure from the blast was released through the windows and the bed of the truck, Brauer and two other experts said.
Meier said the evidence seems to indicate a “low-grade” explosion that would have generated a lot of heat and fire. But there was no blast wave that could break or shatter nearby materials, he said, whereas a so-called “high explosive,” such as C-4 would have built up pressure faster than what could be released through the windows and torn the truck apart.
If the vehicle had not been coated in steel, “you may get a little more shrapnel coming off of it, but generally speaking [the explosion] would not be that different,” added Meier.
Investigators have not yet said whether the electric vehicle’s batteries were part of the explosion.
When electric vehicle batteries catch fire, they can be difficult to put out because they heat the other battery cells around them, leading to a chain reaction of fires, according to Sean DeCrane, health and safety director at the International Association of Fire Fighters — and extinguishing this requires lowering the heat of the other battery cells by dousing them with water.
However, unless the vehicle is in a confined space or parked close to other electric vehicles, the danger from such a fire would mostly be limited to anyone who is in the vehicle or immediately near it, DeCrane said.
In the case of the Las Vegas Cybertruck, “it seemed to me that the body was still intact and the detonation failed the windows,” he added.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/02/cybertruck-explosion-damage-tesla-design-elon-musk/

That's what surprised me...this guy was a Green Beret, no way he didn't know these fireworks weren't going to do squat. I think it's just a glorified suicide. But the question remains as to why a trump loving magat would go to the effort of getting a Tesla and doing this at the low rent off strip trump hotel.

mickeyrat · January 3

Gern Blansten said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Seems Twin Peak’s Agent Cooper is on the case and it appears he’s got more facts than some posters here. Hey, it’s the age we live in.

Tesla fans say Cybertruck muffled Vegas blast. Not so fast, experts say.
The fact that more people weren’t killed might have more to do with the nature of the materials that started the conflagration.
The Tesla Cybertruck that exploded Wednesday in front of Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas — which was left burned out but largely intact — has invited a wave of online praise for its tough steel exterior. Seven bystanders were injured, but the only fatality was inside the truck. Even the hotel’s glass front doors were spared.
“Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upward,” Tesla chief executive Elon Musk said in a social media post on X late Wednesday, echoing earlier comments from a city sheriff.
But the surprising lack of damage caused by the blast is also a function of the apparently low-grade explosives used in the incident, according to experts who spoke to The Washington Post.
A blast caused by fireworks and fuel might have had a similar effect had it been in a different vehicle, said electric-vehicle experts Richard Meier of Meier Fire Investigations and Karl Brauer, executive analyst at ISeeCars.com.
Videos of the event indicate that a lot of heat was generated by an initial explosion, followed by a subsequent fire in the bed of the truck that could have come from batteries overheating, noted Brauer.
“You didn’t really have an explosion as much as you had a bonfire,” he said. “I’m not at all convinced that the Cybertruck being so strong is the reason it blew upward.”
Kenneth Cooper, special agent in charge of the San Francisco division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told reporters Thursday that it’s too early to know how the detonation started.
The driver of the truck is believed to be a 37-year-old Army Special Forces soldier named Matthew Livelsberger, although his identity has not yet been confirmed because the body was burned beyond recognition. Authorities said he probably died by suicide.
Investigators have so far mostly found evidence of fireworks, fuel and sport-shooting targets, Cooper said, adding: “The level of sophistication is not what we would expect from an individual with this type of military experience.”
Videos of the event and pictures of the blown-up vehicle seem to suggest that pressure from the blast was released through the windows and the bed of the truck, Brauer and two other experts said.
Meier said the evidence seems to indicate a “low-grade” explosion that would have generated a lot of heat and fire. But there was no blast wave that could break or shatter nearby materials, he said, whereas a so-called “high explosive,” such as C-4 would have built up pressure faster than what could be released through the windows and torn the truck apart.
If the vehicle had not been coated in steel, “you may get a little more shrapnel coming off of it, but generally speaking [the explosion] would not be that different,” added Meier.
Investigators have not yet said whether the electric vehicle’s batteries were part of the explosion.
When electric vehicle batteries catch fire, they can be difficult to put out because they heat the other battery cells around them, leading to a chain reaction of fires, according to Sean DeCrane, health and safety director at the International Association of Fire Fighters — and extinguishing this requires lowering the heat of the other battery cells by dousing them with water.
However, unless the vehicle is in a confined space or parked close to other electric vehicles, the danger from such a fire would mostly be limited to anyone who is in the vehicle or immediately near it, DeCrane said.
In the case of the Las Vegas Cybertruck, “it seemed to me that the body was still intact and the detonation failed the windows,” he added.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/02/cybertruck-explosion-damage-tesla-design-elon-musk/

That's what surprised me...this guy was a Green Beret, no way he didn't know these fireworks weren't going to do squat. I think it's just a glorified suicide. But the question remains as to why a trump loving magat would go to the effort of getting a Tesla and doing this at the low rent off strip trump hotel.

no. its ON the strip. Across from MGM as I recall. or close to it.

regardless, I am curious as well as to the motivation here....

Gern Blansten · January 3

2023

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Seems Twin Peak’s Agent Cooper is on the case and it appears he’s got more facts than some posters here. Hey, it’s the age we live in.

Tesla fans say Cybertruck muffled Vegas blast. Not so fast, experts say.
The fact that more people weren’t killed might have more to do with the nature of the materials that started the conflagration.
The Tesla Cybertruck that exploded Wednesday in front of Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas — which was left burned out but largely intact — has invited a wave of online praise for its tough steel exterior. Seven bystanders were injured, but the only fatality was inside the truck. Even the hotel’s glass front doors were spared.
“Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upward,” Tesla chief executive Elon Musk said in a social media post on X late Wednesday, echoing earlier comments from a city sheriff.
But the surprising lack of damage caused by the blast is also a function of the apparently low-grade explosives used in the incident, according to experts who spoke to The Washington Post.
A blast caused by fireworks and fuel might have had a similar effect had it been in a different vehicle, said electric-vehicle experts Richard Meier of Meier Fire Investigations and Karl Brauer, executive analyst at ISeeCars.com.
Videos of the event indicate that a lot of heat was generated by an initial explosion, followed by a subsequent fire in the bed of the truck that could have come from batteries overheating, noted Brauer.
“You didn’t really have an explosion as much as you had a bonfire,” he said. “I’m not at all convinced that the Cybertruck being so strong is the reason it blew upward.”
Kenneth Cooper, special agent in charge of the San Francisco division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told reporters Thursday that it’s too early to know how the detonation started.
The driver of the truck is believed to be a 37-year-old Army Special Forces soldier named Matthew Livelsberger, although his identity has not yet been confirmed because the body was burned beyond recognition. Authorities said he probably died by suicide.
Investigators have so far mostly found evidence of fireworks, fuel and sport-shooting targets, Cooper said, adding: “The level of sophistication is not what we would expect from an individual with this type of military experience.”
Videos of the event and pictures of the blown-up vehicle seem to suggest that pressure from the blast was released through the windows and the bed of the truck, Brauer and two other experts said.
Meier said the evidence seems to indicate a “low-grade” explosion that would have generated a lot of heat and fire. But there was no blast wave that could break or shatter nearby materials, he said, whereas a so-called “high explosive,” such as C-4 would have built up pressure faster than what could be released through the windows and torn the truck apart.
If the vehicle had not been coated in steel, “you may get a little more shrapnel coming off of it, but generally speaking [the explosion] would not be that different,” added Meier.
Investigators have not yet said whether the electric vehicle’s batteries were part of the explosion.
When electric vehicle batteries catch fire, they can be difficult to put out because they heat the other battery cells around them, leading to a chain reaction of fires, according to Sean DeCrane, health and safety director at the International Association of Fire Fighters — and extinguishing this requires lowering the heat of the other battery cells by dousing them with water.
However, unless the vehicle is in a confined space or parked close to other electric vehicles, the danger from such a fire would mostly be limited to anyone who is in the vehicle or immediately near it, DeCrane said.
In the case of the Las Vegas Cybertruck, “it seemed to me that the body was still intact and the detonation failed the windows,” he added.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/02/cybertruck-explosion-damage-tesla-design-elon-musk/

That's what surprised me...this guy was a Green Beret, no way he didn't know these fireworks weren't going to do squat. I think it's just a glorified suicide. But the question remains as to why a trump loving magat would go to the effort of getting a Tesla and doing this at the low rent off strip trump hotel.

no. its ON the strip. Across from MGM as I recall. or close to it.

regardless, I am curious as well as to the motivation here....

no it's absolutely off strip....no casino

mickeyrat · January 3

Gern Blansten said:

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Seems Twin Peak’s Agent Cooper is on the case and it appears he’s got more facts than some posters here. Hey, it’s the age we live in.

Tesla fans say Cybertruck muffled Vegas blast. Not so fast, experts say.
The fact that more people weren’t killed might have more to do with the nature of the materials that started the conflagration.
The Tesla Cybertruck that exploded Wednesday in front of Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas — which was left burned out but largely intact — has invited a wave of online praise for its tough steel exterior. Seven bystanders were injured, but the only fatality was inside the truck. Even the hotel’s glass front doors were spared.
“Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upward,” Tesla chief executive Elon Musk said in a social media post on X late Wednesday, echoing earlier comments from a city sheriff.
But the surprising lack of damage caused by the blast is also a function of the apparently low-grade explosives used in the incident, according to experts who spoke to The Washington Post.
A blast caused by fireworks and fuel might have had a similar effect had it been in a different vehicle, said electric-vehicle experts Richard Meier of Meier Fire Investigations and Karl Brauer, executive analyst at ISeeCars.com.
Videos of the event indicate that a lot of heat was generated by an initial explosion, followed by a subsequent fire in the bed of the truck that could have come from batteries overheating, noted Brauer.
“You didn’t really have an explosion as much as you had a bonfire,” he said. “I’m not at all convinced that the Cybertruck being so strong is the reason it blew upward.”
Kenneth Cooper, special agent in charge of the San Francisco division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told reporters Thursday that it’s too early to know how the detonation started.
The driver of the truck is believed to be a 37-year-old Army Special Forces soldier named Matthew Livelsberger, although his identity has not yet been confirmed because the body was burned beyond recognition. Authorities said he probably died by suicide.
Investigators have so far mostly found evidence of fireworks, fuel and sport-shooting targets, Cooper said, adding: “The level of sophistication is not what we would expect from an individual with this type of military experience.”
Videos of the event and pictures of the blown-up vehicle seem to suggest that pressure from the blast was released through the windows and the bed of the truck, Brauer and two other experts said.
Meier said the evidence seems to indicate a “low-grade” explosion that would have generated a lot of heat and fire. But there was no blast wave that could break or shatter nearby materials, he said, whereas a so-called “high explosive,” such as C-4 would have built up pressure faster than what could be released through the windows and torn the truck apart.
If the vehicle had not been coated in steel, “you may get a little more shrapnel coming off of it, but generally speaking [the explosion] would not be that different,” added Meier.
Investigators have not yet said whether the electric vehicle’s batteries were part of the explosion.
When electric vehicle batteries catch fire, they can be difficult to put out because they heat the other battery cells around them, leading to a chain reaction of fires, according to Sean DeCrane, health and safety director at the International Association of Fire Fighters — and extinguishing this requires lowering the heat of the other battery cells by dousing them with water.
However, unless the vehicle is in a confined space or parked close to other electric vehicles, the danger from such a fire would mostly be limited to anyone who is in the vehicle or immediately near it, DeCrane said.
In the case of the Las Vegas Cybertruck, “it seemed to me that the body was still intact and the detonation failed the windows,” he added.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/02/cybertruck-explosion-damage-tesla-design-elon-musk/

That's what surprised me...this guy was a Green Beret, no way he didn't know these fireworks weren't going to do squat. I think it's just a glorified suicide. But the question remains as to why a trump loving magat would go to the effort of getting a Tesla and doing this at the low rent off strip trump hotel.

no. its ON the strip. Across from MGM as I recall. or close to it.

regardless, I am curious as well as to the motivation here....

no it's absolutely off strip....no casino

ok. I looked at google maps. One block off...

in between las vegas blvd(strip) and sammy davis jr dr

not sure when this sat image was taken but it WAS next door to a casino property...

Gern Blansten · January 3

2023

yeah I'm not sure what is going in there...casino for sure lol

The Juggler · January 3

2023

Lol...what is wrong with these people? Isn't Gaetz in his 30's?

Freaks

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5021252/uploads/editor/7d/5b6g6lhonke2.png

Halifax2TheMax · January 3

2023

The Juggler said:

Lol...what is wrong with these people? Isn't Gaetz in his 30's?

Freaks

It’s the televangelist look. Makes it easier to get little old ladies to send you money. I would have said Jim Bakker.

Choccoloccotide · January 3

Trump bodies the J6 unselect committee

mrussel1 · January 3

Choccoloccotide said:

Trump bodies the J6 unselect committee

Wait, did you just say "unselect" committee? Sick burn dude.

Halifax2TheMax · January 3

2023

Choccoloccotide said:

Trump bodies the J6 unselect committee

Do you truly believe this drivel? All of it? Some? None at all?

Go Beavers · January 3

Nearly all republicans believe it. The guy ran an illegal scheme to try and overturn the election and flips it to where he’s the victim and they all follow along. Everything he does is acceptable and justified. There won’t be a bottom and there won’t be a “he’s gone too far”.

eddiec · January 3

Choccoloccotide said:

Trump bodies the J6 unselect committee

The effort to rewrite history will not work.

---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

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