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  • Spurs14
    Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 330
    Get_Right said:

    But I do. Is a concession vote worse than not believing in either candidate?
    If you can’t answer that, don’t vote. I’m sure it will help your troubled conscience.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,120
    benjs said:
    Get_Right said:
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    It is not a bit. Trust me I get it. I don't really know and I hate that my vote may come down to the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate I really endorse. That sucks.

    And SNL call me for writing credits LOL
    One evil actually tried to overturn the results of the last election. The other "evil" is the status quo. 

    This is not a serious discussion. And this is not a lesser of two evil election. Not even remotely close. 

    Right because election results have never been challenged throughout American history. C'mon man. And good for you if you see it so clearly. I do not and am entitled to that opinion.
    In 2020, sixty post-election lawsuits were filed. Fourteen were dropped, thirty-three were dismissed, seven are ongoing, five ruled against, and a grand total of one in Wisconsin ruled in favour of Trump. I'm still looking for the details of what that lawsuit claimed/won. Compare this to the highly contentious Bush v. Gore election challenges, which were contested, recounted, and accepted. You're comparing a mountain to an anthill and calling them the same because they're pointy. These topics demand more nuance than that. 

    It's just politics and legal maneuvering. The scale may be different but it is not unexpected. Welcome to doing business with a New York landlord. A result is bad? Hire a lawyer. No different from BP.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,549
    Get_Right said:
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    It is not a bit. Trust me I get it. I don't really know and I hate that my vote may come down to the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate I really endorse. That sucks.

    And SNL call me for writing credits LOL
    One evil actually tried to overturn the results of the last election. The other "evil" is the status quo. 

    This is not a serious discussion. And this is not a lesser of two evil election. Not even remotely close. 

    Right because election results have never been challenged throughout American history. C'mon man. And good for you if you see it so clearly. I do not and am entitled to that opinion.
    And Trump’s the first to be indicted for his “challenge”, which tells you what? 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Someone explain this to me, please?

    The enormous gains boosted Trump Media’s value to $10.3 billion as of Tuesday’s close. That means it was briefly worth more than the implied value of X, the Elon Musk-owned social network formerly known as Twitter.

    That’s despite the fact that X has about 70 million monthly active US users on iOS and Android as Truth Social, according to Similarweb data shared with CNN. That’s roughly 100 times Truth Social’s 698,000 monthly active US users.

    Even Threads, Meta’s relatively new X competitor, has about 20 times the user base of Truth Social, according to Similarweb.

    ‘Head scratcher’ valuation

    Trump Media’s fundamentals remain very modest for a company that is still valued at more than $8 billion.

    For context, CBS owner Paramount Global, a company that Trump Media recently surpassed in market value, has brought in more than $14 billion in revenue so far this year.

    But Trump Media has generated just $1.6 million of revenue this year.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/30/business/trump-stock-truth-social/index.html


    The market does things like this. Tesla is worth more than GM, Ford and Toyota combined even though it produces a small fraction of the number of cars they do. People bet on their perception of future growth. People buying DJT are making a bet that he will win the election and that this will mean good things for his company. I bought the Tesla story in 2013 and have been rewarded handsomely for it to the tune of a gain of over 9,000 percent. I'm not buying the DJT story even if he does win, but others apparently feel differently.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,120
    Go Beavers said:
    Get_Right said:
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    It is not a bit. Trust me I get it. I don't really know and I hate that my vote may come down to the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate I really endorse. That sucks.

    And SNL call me for writing credits LOL
    One evil actually tried to overturn the results of the last election. The other "evil" is the status quo. 

    This is not a serious discussion. And this is not a lesser of two evil election. Not even remotely close. 

    Right because election results have never been challenged throughout American history. C'mon man. And good for you if you see it so clearly. I do not and am entitled to that opinion.
    And Trump’s the first to be indicted for his “challenge”, which tells you what? 
    It tells me that people hide behind lawyers to protect their self interests. Even if they are wrong. He probably had a ton of investors. His defense? We will challenge them in court. You get a DUI, you hire a lawyer. You question a tax levy, you hire a lawyer. You are unhappy with government administration? You hire a lawyer. Do not hate the player, hate the game.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Get_Right said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    if i were undecided at this point, i would never admit it. especially on the internet.
    POOTWH supporters won’t own it either. Says a lot.
    a lot of "undecided voters" are actually trump supporters with enough self awareness to at least appear to be conflicted about supporting him.
    I don’t see what the difference would be about an undecided voter and a Trump supporter in this election. What makes them undecided that also do not make them trash?

    Whether it’s his sexual assaults, his climate change-denial, wanting to use nukes or any of his lovely character traits. What is it that makes them undecided?
    And this gets to the heart of the matter. I have come to expect some level of corruption, self dealing and poor character traits from all politicians. It is a dirty business. And that is what I hate about this process. Clinton was a good President but his morals were abhorrent. I don't really know. Voting for Harris feels like complacently mailing it in, while voting for Trump seems like supporting an evil empire. It is a lose lose situation. Nobody wins IMHO.
    The Obama administration was basically scandal-free. Fox News tried to drum up a bunch of fake scandals, but none of them were based in reality.

    Voting against the worst possible person for the job is not mailing it in.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Get_Right said:
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    It is not a bit. Trust me I get it. I don't really know and I hate that my vote may come down to the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate I really endorse. That sucks.

    And SNL call me for writing credits LOL
    One evil actually tried to overturn the results of the last election. The other "evil" is the status quo. 

    This is not a serious discussion. And this is not a lesser of two evil election. Not even remotely close. 

    Right because election results have never been challenged throughout American history. C'mon man. And good for you if you see it so clearly. I do not and am entitled to that opinion.
    Every other person who lost a presidential election conceded the election. Trump still hasn't done that. He didn't just "challenge" it. He tried to steal it. He sanctioned fake electors. He asked the Georgia secretary of state to "find" exactly the number of votes he would need to win the state.

    This has to be a bit.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    2023
    Seriously comparing "contested elections" of the past to 1/6/21 and the events leading up to it??? Dude.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,549
    Get_Right said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Get_Right said:
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    It is not a bit. Trust me I get it. I don't really know and I hate that my vote may come down to the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate I really endorse. That sucks.

    And SNL call me for writing credits LOL
    One evil actually tried to overturn the results of the last election. The other "evil" is the status quo. 

    This is not a serious discussion. And this is not a lesser of two evil election. Not even remotely close. 

    Right because election results have never been challenged throughout American history. C'mon man. And good for you if you see it so clearly. I do not and am entitled to that opinion.
    And Trump’s the first to be indicted for his “challenge”, which tells you what? 
    It tells me that people hide behind lawyers to protect their self interests. Even if they are wrong. He probably had a ton of investors. His defense? We will challenge them in court. You get a DUI, you hire a lawyer. You question a tax levy, you hire a lawyer. You are unhappy with government administration? You hire a lawyer. Do not hate the player, hate the game.
    This is odd logic to say the least. Trump was indicted because there was evidence of wrongdoing presented to the grand jury and it met the threshold. Based on the evidence that is public, do you think he did something illegal? 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    2023
    Get_Right said:
    It is not a bit. Trust me I get it. I don't really know and I hate that my vote may come down to the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate I really endorse. That sucks.

    And SNL call me for writing credits LOL

    I get what you're saying.  But the fact remains, the lesser of two evils is less evil.  If you had to choose between a broken leg and terminal cancer, what would you choose?  Or getting to vote for someone you're not really a fan of or not getting to vote next time? 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    2023
    Get_Right said:
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    It is not a bit. Trust me I get it. I don't really know and I hate that my vote may come down to the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate I really endorse. That sucks.

    And SNL call me for writing credits LOL
    One evil actually tried to overturn the results of the last election. The other "evil" is the status quo. 

    This is not a serious discussion. And this is not a lesser of two evil election. Not even remotely close. 

    Right because election results have never been challenged throughout American history. C'mon man. And good for you if you see it so clearly. I do not and am entitled to that opinion.
    You should just sit this election out at this point. My god. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    It is not a bit. Trust me I get it. I don't really know and I hate that my vote may come down to the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate I really endorse. That sucks.

    And SNL call me for writing credits LOL
    One evil actually tried to overturn the results of the last election. The other "evil" is the status quo. 

    This is not a serious discussion. And this is not a lesser of two evil election. Not even remotely close. 

    Right because election results have never been challenged throughout American history. C'mon man. And good for you if you see it so clearly. I do not and am entitled to that opinion.
    You should just sit this election out at this point. My god. 
    It's a bit. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    2023
    Merkin Baller said:
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    The Juggler said:
    Get_Right said:
    It is not a bit. Trust me I get it. I don't really know and I hate that my vote may come down to the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate I really endorse. That sucks.

    And SNL call me for writing credits LOL
    One evil actually tried to overturn the results of the last election. The other "evil" is the status quo. 

    This is not a serious discussion. And this is not a lesser of two evil election. Not even remotely close. 

    Right because election results have never been challenged throughout American history. C'mon man. And good for you if you see it so clearly. I do not and am entitled to that opinion.
    You should just sit this election out at this point. My god. 
    It's a bit. 
    haha
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  • Spurs14
    Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 330
    Merkin Baller said:
    It's a bit. 
    More like trolling just beneath the surface
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,155
    2023
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Seriously comparing "contested elections" of the past to 1/6/21 and the events leading up to it??? Dude.
    Way too far gone. I’m surprised they haven’t relocated to Hungary. Or Russia.
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,235
    Gern Blansten said:
    https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1851662046766489836



    This is great....what a fucking idiot
    And what will people think when this is seen in 20, 50, 75 & 100 years from now?
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