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  • mickeyrat
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    Trial opens in E. Jean Carroll's rape lawsuit against Trump
    By LARRY NEUMEISTER and JENNIFER PELTZ
    4 mins ago

    NEW YORK (AP) — A former advice columnist’s nearly 30-year-old rape claim against Donald Trump went to trial Tuesday as jurors in the federal civil case heard her allegation of being attacked in a luxury department store dressing room. The former president says nothing happened between them.

    E. Jean Carroll will testify that what unfolded in a few minutes in a fitting room in 1996 “would change her life forever,” one of her lawyers, Shawn Crowley, said in an opening statement.

    “Filled with fear and shame, she kept silent for decades. Eventually, though, silence became impossible,” Crowley said. And when Carroll broke that silence in a 2019 memoir, the then-president “used the most powerful platform on Earth to lie about what he had done, attack Ms. Carroll’s integrity and insult her appearance.”

    Trump lawyer Joe Tacopina painted her story as wildly implausible and short of evidence, and described it as “an affront to justice.” He accused her of pursuing the case for money, status and political reasons.

    “It all comes down to: Do you believe the unbelievable?” Tacopina told the six-man, three-woman jury. He urged the panel in heavily Democratic New York to put politics aside in weighing the case against the Republican ex-president and ex-New Yorker.

    “You can hate Donald Trump. That’s OK. But there’s a time and a secret place for that. It’s called a ballot box in an election. It’s not here in a court of law,” Tacopina said. “Nobody’s above the law, but no one is beneath it.”

    The trial stands to tests Trump's “Teflon Don” reputation for shaking off serious legal problems and to reprise accounts of the type of sexual misconduct that rocked his 2016 presidential campaign as he seeks office again. He denies Carroll’s claim and all the others, saying they were falsehoods spun up to damage him.

    The trial is in civil court, meaning that no matter the outcome, Trump isn't in danger of going to jail. He isn't required to be in court, either, and his lawyers have indicated he most likely won't testify.

    The trial comes a month after he pleaded not guilty in an unrelated criminal case surrounding payments made to bury accounts of alleged extramarital sex.

    Jurors — whose names are being kept secret to prevent potential harassment — range in age from 26 to 66 and include a janitor, a physical therapist and people who work in security, health care collections, a library, a high school and other settings. One said she follows news by watching “everything”; another said he didn’t follow it at all.

    They were questioned about their news-watching habits, political donations and support for any of a roster of right- and left-wing groups. They were asked, too, whether they used Trump’s social media platform, read Carroll’s former Elle magazine column and even if they’d seen Trump’s former reality show “The Apprentice” — and whether any of these and other matters would make it difficult for them to be fair.

    Carroll is expected to testify that a chance encounter with Trump turned violent, and that he defamed her when responding to the rape allegations. She's seeking unspecified damages and a retraction.

    She says that after she ran into the future president at Manhattan's Bergdorf Goodman on an unspecified spring Thursday evening in 1996, he invited her to shop with him for a woman's lingerie gift before they teased one another to try on a garment. Carroll says they ended up alone together in a store dressing room, where Trump pushed her against a wall and raped before she fought him off and fled.

    Since Carroll first made her accusations, Trump has vehemently denied that a rape ever occurred or that he even knew Carroll.

    Trump has labeled Carroll a “nut job” and “mentally sick.” He claimed she fabricated the rape claim to boost sales of her book.

    “She’s not my type,” he has said repeatedly, although during sworn questioning in October, he also misidentified her in a photograph as his ex-wife Marla Maples.

    Carroll didn't stop to speak with reporters as she arrived at the courthouse Tuesday morning.

    Jurors are also expected to hear from two other women who say they were sexually assaulted by Trump.

    Jessica Leeds is set to testify that Trump tried to put his hand up her skirt on a 1979 flight on which the two were assigned neighboring seats. Natasha Stoynoff, a former People magazine staff writer, will testify that Trump pinned her against a wall and forcibly kissed her at his Florida mansion when she went there in 2005 to interview Trump and his then-pregnant wife Melania Trump.

    Jurors will also see the infamous 2005 “Access Hollywood” video in which Trump is heard making misogynistic remarks about women, including an assertion that celebrities can grab, even sexually, women without asking.

    Carroll's allegations normally would be too old to bring to court. But in November, New York state enacted a law allowing for suits over decades-old sexual abuse claims.

    U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan, who will preside over the trial, rejected a request by Trump's lawyers that jurors be told that the ex-president wanted to spare the city the disruption his presence might cause.

    Trump could still decide to attend the trial and testify. If he does not, the jury might be shown excerpts from his deposition, which was recorded on video.

    The Associated Press typically does not name people who say they have been sexually assaulted unless they come forward publicly, as Carroll, Leeds and Stoynoff have done.


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  • Kat
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    He was shown a photo of Ms. Carroll and said it was a photo of Marla Maples...but Ms. Carroll was not his type. I'm letting that one sink in.

    "“She’s not my type,” he has said repeatedly, although during sworn questioning in October, he also misidentified her in a photograph as his ex-wife Marla Maples."
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  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,082
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    i am trying to see how this has any bearing on the case.

    one can argue that if no juror believes those things, then the jury is not a jury of trump's peers.

    but then they can also make the argument that since none of them are former presidents or millionaires they are not his peers either.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,555
    mickeyrat said:
    i am trying to see how this has any bearing on the case.

    one can argue that if no juror believes those things, then the jury is not a jury of trump's peers.

    but then they can also make the argument that since none of them are former presidents or millionaires they are not his peers either.
    My guess is that the judge was using the question as a litmus test to determine bias in favor of Trump. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,197
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    i am trying to see how this has any bearing on the case.

    one can argue that if no juror believes those things, then the jury is not a jury of trump's peers.

    but then they can also make the argument that since none of them are former presidents or millionaires they are not his peers either.
    My guess is that the judge was using the question as a litmus test to determine bias in favor of Trump. 
    I’m thinking the judge was checking to see if they are grounded in reality and that they’re of mental competency to judge a POS POOTWH, in all his brilliant brilliance of brilliancy.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2023
    How is this MF'er NOT in the building?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,082
    2023
    ikiT said:
    How is this MF'er NOT in the building?
    he is scared. he knows he is hated in new york and is afraid someone in the courtroom might assault him. 

    he only feels safe in mar a lago
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    ikiT said:
    Tiki, can you please give me that minute and a half of my life back?
    :)
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    Looks like someone is projecting again...
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,197
    2023
    Brandon should walk out on the south lawn, approach the assembled press corps, snap open his suit jacket, reach inside and withdraw some documents, and wave them around and explicitly state, “if POOTWH wants to see the documents, he’s always welcome to stop by FBI headquarters and review them. Would you let him know that, please?” And then wave them around some more for effect and walk away.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    2023
    ikiT said:
    Sad thing is some folks will believe every bit of that nonsense.
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    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    so how many days has he spent in jail?  hahaha 

    I keep saying it... if anyone truly thinks any president or ex-president will ever spend a day in jail then i have some bridges I'd love to sell you... 
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  • static111
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    Scio me nihil scire

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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2023

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    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2023

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    2023
    Poncier said:
    ikiT said:
    Sad thing is some folks will believe every bit of that nonsense.
    "Chinatown!" IE: A University of Pennsylvania building where Biden's think tank is located. This disingenuous piece of shit cannot spit out one sentence with embellishing the truth. 
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