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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    Who’s in for 75? A few posters come to mind.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    2023
    In trump’s defesne (something I rarely say) there is a group picture w/ most of them doing the Fonzie there at the grave… 
    Not everyone was having a blast though. 



    Pretty weird how Trump can ruin something as simple and basic as a "thumbs up".  I give him a different finger.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,914
    brianlux said:
    In trump’s defesne (something I rarely say) there is a group picture w/ most of them doing the Fonzie there at the grave… 
    Not everyone was having a blast though. 



    Pretty weird how Trump can ruin something as simple and basic as a "thumbs up".  I give him a different finger.
    who gives a thumbs up at a grave site?  what a weirdo
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    2023
    pjhawks said:
    brianlux said:
    In trump’s defesne (something I rarely say) there is a group picture w/ most of them doing the Fonzie there at the grave… 
    Not everyone was having a blast though. 



    Pretty weird how Trump can ruin something as simple and basic as a "thumbs up".  I give him a different finger.
    who gives a thumbs up at a grave site?  what a weirdo

    Exactly, only a weirdo!  
    Pretty disgusting, really.  Imagine: you're visiting the grave site of a loved one and you look over and there are these idiots with stupid grins on their faces and they're giving thumbs up over someones grave.  Trump and company: creepy and disgusting.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    2023
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT

    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

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  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,098
    2023
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT

    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    countdown until a trump appointed judge tosses this one out too....
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,430
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT





    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    countdown until a trump appointed judge tosses this one out too....

    pssst. this stays with chutkin.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,098
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT





    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    countdown until a trump appointed judge tosses this one out too....

    pssst. this stays with chutkin.
    my bad. i got this indictment confused with the other ones....
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,430
    mickeyrat said:
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT





    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    countdown until a trump appointed judge tosses this one out too....

    pssst. this stays with chutkin.
    my bad. i got this indictment confused with the other ones....

    while he didnt ask for her removal in the initial appeal, he has filed the appeal in the documents case with the 11th circuit.

    fuckstick still on track for sentencing in fraud case. will likely lose his e jean 2 case and owe. and will likely be on the hook for at least part of the 480 million state judgement.

    none of this is happening as quickly as we would like. altjough personally I prefer slow , deliberate and rock solid to withstand appeal.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    2023
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT

    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    No wonder the flood of shrillness of late.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,098
    2023
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT

    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    No wonder the flood of shrillness of late.
    the flood of shrillness is just a regular day for trump. festivus is all year around with that guy, except he never gets past the "airing of grievances" part.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    2023
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT

    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    No wonder the flood of shrillness of late.
    the flood of shrillness is just a regular day for trump. festivus is all year around with that guy, except he never gets past the "airing of grievances" part.
    And an indictment in a pear tree!
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    this on top of the funding his senate campaign wirh his "opioid addiction charity"

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,098
    2023
    i'd rather tie my my money to a cinder block, but the block in a burlap bag, drive across the mississippi river, and throw the bag out the window halfway across. it will be much quicker and less painful over time.
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