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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,480
    2024
    so this business owner claims "when trump was president, my business thrived, with biden in office, I'm one step away from closing my doors". the president does not have that kind of influence on a small business. that's absurd to me. causation v correlation. 

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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,723

    NY v. Trump: Judge reveals Facebook post implying juror discussed guilty verdict before trial concluded

    Trump was found guilty on all counts

    Published June 7, 2024 5:31pm EDT

    The judge presiding over former President Trump’s New York criminal trial notified his defense team on Friday of a comment on the court's public Facebook page that implies one of the jurors discussed the guilty verdict with family before the trial concluded.

    Fox News obtained the letter Judge Juan Merchan shared with Trump defense attorneys and Manhattan prosecutors. 

    "'Today, the Court became aware of a comment that was posted on the Unified Court System's public Facebook page and which I now bring to your attention. In the comment, the user, ‘Michael Anderson,’ states:

    "’My cousin is a juror and says Trump is getting convicted! Thank you folks for all your hard work!!!!’"

    The comment was posted on May 29 "regarding oral arguments in the Fourth Department of the Appellate Division unrelated to this proceeding." 

    The profile for "Michael Anderson" has little publicly available information, but the user identifies himself as a "Transabled & professional sh-- poster."


    A Trump campaign official told Fox News Digital they are "investigating the matter." 

    Al Baker, state OCA spokesperson, said Friday that "as appropriate, the Court informed the parties once it learned of this online content."

    The post came a day before Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. Trump had pleaded not guilty to all charges. 

    The six-week-long trial stemmed from charges brought by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. 

     

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    2023
    shecky said:

    NY v. Trump: Judge reveals Facebook post implying juror discussed guilty verdict before trial concluded

    Trump was found guilty on all counts

    Published June 7, 2024 5:31pm EDT

    The judge presiding over former President Trump’s New York criminal trial notified his defense team on Friday of a comment on the court's public Facebook page that implies one of the jurors discussed the guilty verdict with family before the trial concluded.

    Fox News obtained the letter Judge Juan Merchan shared with Trump defense attorneys and Manhattan prosecutors. 

    "'Today, the Court became aware of a comment that was posted on the Unified Court System's public Facebook page and which I now bring to your attention. In the comment, the user, ‘Michael Anderson,’ states:

    "’My cousin is a juror and says Trump is getting convicted! Thank you folks for all your hard work!!!!’"

    The comment was posted on May 29 "regarding oral arguments in the Fourth Department of the Appellate Division unrelated to this proceeding." 

    The profile for "Michael Anderson" has little publicly available information, but the user identifies himself as a "Transabled & professional sh-- poster."


    A Trump campaign official told Fox News Digital they are "investigating the matter." 

    Al Baker, state OCA spokesperson, said Friday that "as appropriate, the Court informed the parties once it learned of this online content."

    The post came a day before Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. Trump had pleaded not guilty to all charges. 

    The six-week-long trial stemmed from charges brought by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. 

     

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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,723
    Potential grounds for a mistrial.

  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    shecky said:
    Potential grounds for a mistrial.

    If true yes but how the poster describes himself I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest the post was bs 
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,723
    pjhawks said:
    shecky said:
    Potential grounds for a mistrial.

    If true yes but how the poster describes himself I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest the post was bs 
    I think I'll wait for a thorough invesitgation to be conducted before I reach an opinion.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    2023
    shecky said:
    Potential grounds for a mistrial.

    Maybe, maybe not. Lots o hoops in that circus to jump through. What are the chances that Rodger Dodger Stoned had a cousin on the jury?

    Judge who oversaw Trump hush money trial flags post on the court’s webpage claiming to know the verdict before it came down

    CNN — 

    The judge who oversaw Donald Trump’s criminal hush money trial in New York on Friday informed the former president’s defense team and prosecutors with the Manhattan district attorney’s office that a comment was posted on the New York State Unified Court Systems’ public Facebook page last week by a poster who claimed to be a cousin of a juror, saying that Trump would be convicted.

    “My cousin is a juror and says Trump is getting convicted Thank you folks for all your hard work!!!!” read the comment.

    It is not clear if there is any validity to the post. No evidence was provided to support the claim, and the jurors’ identities remain anonymous. A search of the poster’s Facebook page showed the poster described themself as “a professional sh*t poster,” among other things.

    CNN has attempted to contact the poster.

    Judge Juan Merchan said in a letter that the court had been made aware on Friday of the roughly week-old post, and that it was posted in response to a routine court system notice on May 29 about an unrelated matter. He did not ask the parties to take further action. The post is no longer visible on the court’s Facebook.

    “As appropriate, the Court informed the parties once it learned of this online content,” Al Baker, a spokesperson for the court, said.

    While Merchan informed the legal teams out of caution, the judge’s notice has no immediate effect on the case, according to CNN senior legal analyst and former state and federal prosecutor Elie Honig.

    “The judge is being extra careful here to let the parties know any information that might give them the basis for a motion – there’s a long way though between this and any impact on the case,” Honig said. “First the judge would have to ascertain whether this is even true, and then if it is, whether there is any necessary legal remedy.”

    If it were found to be true, it would not automatically be grounds for a mistrial, according to Honig.

    The 12-person New York jury began its deliberations on May 29. The jurors sent two questions to the judge at the end of that court day: one asking to be read back portions of testimony from two key witnesses, David Pecker and Michael Cohen, and another requesting to rehear a portion of the judge’s instruction to the jury.

    The requested testimonies and instructions were read back to them the next morning. Hours later, just after 4:30 p.m., the jury returned its verdict.

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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,723
    You can bet they're already investigating the hell out of this 'Michael Anderson' character. If it turns out Laughing Boy really does have a cousin who was on the jury, this is going to get very interesting, very quickly.
  • Merkin Baller
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    shecky said:
    You can bet they're already investigating the hell out of this 'Michael Anderson' character. If it turns out Laughing Boy really does have a cousin who was on the jury, this is going to get very interesting, very quickly.
    lol 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    Merkin Baller said:
    shecky said:
    You can bet they're already investigating the hell out of this 'Michael Anderson' character. If it turns out Laughing Boy really does have a cousin who was on the jury, this is going to get very interesting, very quickly.
    lol 
    Astonishing what counts as 'credible' these days. An anonymous guy on Facebook who describes himself as a 'shit-poster', posts a controversial statement, then deletes his post. I literally could have posted what "Michael Anderson" did myself and I'd have an equal amount of credibility.
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  • mrussel1
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    edited June 2024
    shecky said:
    Potential grounds for a mistrial.

    Sure, but there's no real evidence that this poster is 'real'.  He calls himself a world class "shit-poster".  It would also need to be proven that the comment created a real chance that the outcome would have been different.  It will take testifying by the juror, who we don't even exists at this point since there is no proof the poster was the cousin of anyone in that room.  

    2-1 says the poster is actually MAGA and has no cousin on the jury. 
  • mickeyrat
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    mrussel1 said:
    shecky said:
    Potential grounds for a mistrial.

    Sure, but there's no real evidence that this poster is 'real'.  He calls himself a world class "shit-poster".  It would also need to be proven that the comment created a real chance that the outcome would have been different.  It will take testifying by the juror, who we don't even exists at this point since there is no proof the poster was the cousin of anyone in that room.  

    2-1 says the poster is actually MAGA and has no cousin on the jury. 

    even so, they heard real time what they heard. had time to deliberate. asked for testimony, specific testimony and a specific read back of instructions.

    analysis I've heard suggested one real possibility is they were confirming their feeling of guilt that first 4 1/2 of deliberation. 34 counts, unanimous.  with 2 lawyers on the panel. and at leadt one juror saying they get most of their news from fox etc and the same or another saying they have truth social account.

    now IF it was said and then posted before they received the case, there might be issue.

    but they way it was done, on a court post of an unrelated matter ONLY , no news org , no fox, newsmaxx , onn etc. strongly suggests to me his self-description is true....
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
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    shecky said:
    You can bet they're already investigating the hell out of this 'Michael Anderson' character. If it turns out Laughing Boy really does have a cousin who was on the jury, this is going to get very interesting, very quickly.
    Why do you think it is so easy to dupe you people?
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    edited June 2024
    The Juggler said:
    shecky said:
    You can bet they're already investigating the hell out of this 'Michael Anderson' character. If it turns out Laughing Boy really does have a cousin who was on the jury, this is going to get very interesting, very quickly.
    Why do you think it is so easy to dupe you people?
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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,723
    Like I said, "I think I'll wait for a thorough invesitgation to be conducted before I reach an opinion."
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    2023
    shecky said:
    Like I said, "I think I'll wait for a thorough invesitgation to be conducted before I reach an opinion."
    You do that, Sheck. Get back to us when the results are made public, bud. 



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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,723
    edited June 2024
    Wouldn't it all be so much simpler if you guys just found a candidate that could beat President Trump? I hear that Hillary and Gavin Newsom are both anxiously waiting in the wings! Ha ha ha! =)
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    2023
    shecky said:
    Wouldn't it all be so much simpler if you guys just found a candidate that could beat President Trump? I hear that Hillary and Gavin Newsom are both anxiously waiting in the wings! Ha ha ha! =)
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    2023
    shecky said:
    Wouldn't it all be so much simpler if you guys just found a candidate that could beat President Trump? I hear that Hillary and Gavin Newsom are both anxiously waiting in the wings! Ha ha ha! =)
    And this is what exemplifies what is wrong with ‘Murica. That tens of millions of ‘Muricans who would rather have a piece of shit POTUS in POOTWH because it’s the best the repub party can come up with, an abject failure of a human being. That they would rather live under authoritarianism than share with the “other”, despite how good things are under Brandon, despite everything they know, or probably don’t know due to ignorance, or just “owning the libs.” Fuck women, fuck immigrants, fuck the environment and most certainly fuck everyone who doesn’t look and pray like me. ‘Murica deserves everything it’s going to get and then some when POOTWH gets re-elected. And you, general you, thought the BLM and George Floyd unrest was bad?
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  • mrussel1
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    shecky said:
    Wouldn't it all be so much simpler if you guys just found a candidate that could beat President Trump? I hear that Hillary and Gavin Newsom are both anxiously waiting in the wings! Ha ha ha! =)
    Hey genius,, he's not the president. 

    Wouldn't it be easier if you guys found an actual conservative who wasn't married 3x, bangs porn stars,  pays them off and has 90 some felony indictments? The onus is on your party to be better.
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