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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,562
    worth a read

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,222
    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    shecky said:

    Listen... be a Republican.  More power to you.  There is a good and healthy tension between Democratic tendencies for more gov't regulation and Republican free market principles.  For Democratic aversion to war and the GOP's historic commitment to national defense.  

    But don't be a sucker for that guy.  He is only about himself, not you.  Not me.  
    imagine being this obsessed with a former president. or any politician for that matter.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    shecky said:

    Listen... be a Republican.  More power to you.  There is a good and healthy tension between Democratic tendencies for more gov't regulation and Republican free market principles.  For Democratic aversion to war and the GOP's historic commitment to national defense.  

    But don't be a sucker for that guy.  He is only about himself, not you.  Not me.  
    imagine being this obsessed with a former president. or any politician for that matter.
    Imagine bringing Hillary into the conversation in 2024. 
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,206
    2023
    Merkin Baller said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    shecky said:

    Listen... be a Republican.  More power to you.  There is a good and healthy tension between Democratic tendencies for more gov't regulation and Republican free market principles.  For Democratic aversion to war and the GOP's historic commitment to national defense.  

    But don't be a sucker for that guy.  He is only about himself, not you.  Not me.  
    imagine being this obsessed with a former president. or any politician for that matter.
    Imagine bringing Hillary into the conversation in 2024. 
    I've long believed that a defining characteristic of conservatism is to be stuck in the past, so this makes sense to me. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Vitalogensia said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    shecky said:

    Listen... be a Republican.  More power to you.  There is a good and healthy tension between Democratic tendencies for more gov't regulation and Republican free market principles.  For Democratic aversion to war and the GOP's historic commitment to national defense.  

    But don't be a sucker for that guy.  He is only about himself, not you.  Not me.  
    imagine being this obsessed with a former president. or any politician for that matter.
    Imagine bringing Hillary into the conversation in 2024. 
    I've long believed that a defining characteristic of conservatism is to be stuck in the past, so this makes sense to me. 
    That's fair... it's also fair to mention the whole Hunter being the boogey man isn't panning out for them, so they have to play the hits of yesteryear. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,393
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    It’s a cult.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,222
    2023
    Vitalogensia said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    shecky said:

    Listen... be a Republican.  More power to you.  There is a good and healthy tension between Democratic tendencies for more gov't regulation and Republican free market principles.  For Democratic aversion to war and the GOP's historic commitment to national defense.  

    But don't be a sucker for that guy.  He is only about himself, not you.  Not me.  
    imagine being this obsessed with a former president. or any politician for that matter.
    Imagine bringing Hillary into the conversation in 2024. 
    I've long believed that a defining characteristic of conservatism is to be stuck in the past, so this makes sense to me. 
    i would also add stuck in the present, not wanting anything to change, to those characteristics. there are no forward thinkers in conservative politics.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Vitalogensia said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    shecky said:

    Listen... be a Republican.  More power to you.  There is a good and healthy tension between Democratic tendencies for more gov't regulation and Republican free market principles.  For Democratic aversion to war and the GOP's historic commitment to national defense.  

    But don't be a sucker for that guy.  He is only about himself, not you.  Not me.  
    imagine being this obsessed with a former president. or any politician for that matter.
    Imagine bringing Hillary into the conversation in 2024. 
    I've long believed that a defining characteristic of conservatism is to be stuck in the past, so this makes sense to me. 
    I think that's factually correct. 

    “A conservative is someone who stands athwart history, yelling Stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it.”

    ― William F. Buckley
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,585
    shecky said:
    josevolution said:
    lol he’s the biggest POS alive if you have the gull to vote for him it says a lot about your personality! You are a reflection of him as a voter Deplorable at best 
     Whatever you say, Hillary! (BTW, the word you were stretching for is "gall", not "gull".)

    Benghazi!!  Emails!!  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,393
    2023
    Go Beavers said:
    shecky said:
    josevolution said:
    lol he’s the biggest POS alive if you have the gull to vote for him it says a lot about your personality! You are a reflection of him as a voter Deplorable at best 
     Whatever you say, Hillary! (BTW, the word you were stretching for is "gall", not "gull".)

    Benghazi!!  Emails!!  
    The irony here is that Hillary testified before Congress for 25 hours over 2 days and still hasn’t been indicted, despite the promises of a few on here. Compare that to that pussy Gym Jordan, still ignoring his subpoena.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Bought this shirt to go with my new sneakers. Say hello if you see me at Fenway.


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  • mickeyrat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Bought this shirt to go with my new sneakers. Say hello if you see me at Fenway.



    the obvious problem I see is Texas cant keep the fucking lights on already?
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  • shecky
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    Cell Records Dispute Fani Willis And Nathan Wade’s Relationship Timeline, Trump Team Says
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    Feb 23, 2024,11:55am EST
     
    Fulton County Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade regularly visited District Attorney Fani Willis’ neighborhood before she hired him to work on former President Donald Trump’s criminal case, according to a new affidavit from Trump’s legal team that may contradict the relationship timeline Wade and Willis described in court—as they argue against conflict-of-interest allegations threatening to disqualify Willis from the case.

    KEY FACTS

    Wade visited the area surrounding Willis’ condo near Atlanta at least 35 times between January and November 2021, when he was hired to work on the Trump case, according to an affidavit from a private investigator hired by Trump’s legal team, citing AT&T records that linked Wade’s phone to the cell tower closest to Willis’ condo.

    The pair also had over 2,000 phone calls and exchanged just under 12,000 texts over the 11-month period, the investigator, Charles Mittelstadt, wrote in the affidavit Trump’s lawyers filed as part of their request to have Willis disqualified from the case, alleging her romantic relationship with Wade constitutes a conflict of interest in the case.

    The findings dispute Wade’s and Willis’ claims that their relationship began in 2022 and their testimonies last week estimating he visited her condo no more than 10 times before he was hired in late 2021.

    KEY BACKGROUND

    The relationship between Wade and Willis threatens to derail the Fulton County District Attorney’s election interference case against Trump after one of his co-defendants went public with the allegations earlier this year. Trump and his co-defendants argue Willis financially benefited by hiring Wade, alleging he used his earnings to pay for vacations for the two. Wade and Willis have since admitted to the relationship, but said it began after he was hired, and claim that they split travel expenses for their trips together, with Willis paying him back in cash. They also argue there were no legal violations that would merit her disqualification from the case. Willis’ office charged Trump and 18 others with racketeering in August, alleging they engaged in a wide-ranging scheme to subvert the results of the 2020 presidential election in the state. Trump is charged with 12 additional felonies in the case, including solicitation of violation of oath by a public officer and conspiracy to commit forgery. If Willis is disqualified due to a conflict of interest, the case could face serious delays as a statewide panel of prosecutors decides how to handle it—and if defense attorneys can prove Willis and Wade lied under oath about when their relationship started, it could qualify as perjury.

    TANGENT

    Robin Yeartie, a former Fulton County District Attorney’s office employee who described herself as a former close friend of Willis, also testified last week that Wade and Willis lied about their relationship timeline, claiming it began shortly after an October 2019 judicial conference. Willis later testified that she no longer considers herself friends with Yeartie, who appeared to leave the DA’s office on bad terms.

    WHAT TO WATCH FOR

    Wade’s former law partner, Terrence Bradley, is expected to testify before Judge Scott McAfee in a hearing Monday as McAfee weighs Trump’s request to disqualify Willis from the case. If Willis is disqualified from the case, it could have wide-ranging implications, including the possibility that the next prosecutor assigned to take over the case could drop it altogether.

  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818

    What even is dignity? 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    shecky said:

    Cell Records Dispute Fani Willis And Nathan Wade’s Relationship Timeline, Trump Team Says
    Sara Dorn
    Forbes Staff
    Politics
    Follow
    Feb 23, 2024,11:55am EST
     
    Fulton County Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade regularly visited District Attorney Fani Willis’ neighborhood before she hired him to work on former President Donald Trump’s criminal case, according to a new affidavit from Trump’s legal team that may contradict the relationship timeline Wade and Willis described in court—as they argue against conflict-of-interest allegations threatening to disqualify Willis from the case.

    KEY FACTS

    Wade visited the area surrounding Willis’ condo near Atlanta at least 35 times between January and November 2021, when he was hired to work on the Trump case, according to an affidavit from a private investigator hired by Trump’s legal team, citing AT&T records that linked Wade’s phone to the cell tower closest to Willis’ condo.

    The pair also had over 2,000 phone calls and exchanged just under 12,000 texts over the 11-month period, the investigator, Charles Mittelstadt, wrote in the affidavit Trump’s lawyers filed as part of their request to have Willis disqualified from the case, alleging her romantic relationship with Wade constitutes a conflict of interest in the case.

    The findings dispute Wade’s and Willis’ claims that their relationship began in 2022 and their testimonies last week estimating he visited her condo no more than 10 times before he was hired in late 2021.

    KEY BACKGROUND

    The relationship between Wade and Willis threatens to derail the Fulton County District Attorney’s election interference case against Trump after one of his co-defendants went public with the allegations earlier this year. Trump and his co-defendants argue Willis financially benefited by hiring Wade, alleging he used his earnings to pay for vacations for the two. Wade and Willis have since admitted to the relationship, but said it began after he was hired, and claim that they split travel expenses for their trips together, with Willis paying him back in cash. They also argue there were no legal violations that would merit her disqualification from the case. Willis’ office charged Trump and 18 others with racketeering in August, alleging they engaged in a wide-ranging scheme to subvert the results of the 2020 presidential election in the state. Trump is charged with 12 additional felonies in the case, including solicitation of violation of oath by a public officer and conspiracy to commit forgery. If Willis is disqualified due to a conflict of interest, the case could face serious delays as a statewide panel of prosecutors decides how to handle it—and if defense attorneys can prove Willis and Wade lied under oath about when their relationship started, it could qualify as perjury.

    TANGENT

    Robin Yeartie, a former Fulton County District Attorney’s office employee who described herself as a former close friend of Willis, also testified last week that Wade and Willis lied about their relationship timeline, claiming it began shortly after an October 2019 judicial conference. Willis later testified that she no longer considers herself friends with Yeartie, who appeared to leave the DA’s office on bad terms.

    WHAT TO WATCH FOR

    Wade’s former law partner, Terrence Bradley, is expected to testify before Judge Scott McAfee in a hearing Monday as McAfee weighs Trump’s request to disqualify Willis from the case. If Willis is disqualified from the case, it could have wide-ranging implications, including the possibility that the next prosecutor assigned to take over the case could drop it altogether.

    Meh.  This is getting ridiculous.  So everyone understands according to GA law, the grounds for disqualification are whether the conflict or appearance of conflict leads to prejudicial evidence or prejudicial to the defense.  I think it's a huge stretch to say that's the case here.  So unless she now lied under oath, which brings in charges on her or sanctions, I would be surprised if she is removed. 

    That being said, it would likely be wise of her to remove herself and hand the case over to an assistant to stop the circus.  Because none of this will lead to a DWP.  How could it?  All it's doing is delaying. 
  • mickeyrat
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    interest is a motherfucker....

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    interest is a motherfucker....

    Fucker should be remanded to jail if he doesn't post bond.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,222
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    interest is a motherfucker....

    Fucker should be remanded to jail if he doesn't post bond.
    i hope they seize his buildings. even if they are worth half of what he says they are, he is gonna run out of buildings soon enough.
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    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,222
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    i saw "steak mountain" was trending today. sure enough, it was something dump said...
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,393
    2023
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    interest is a motherfucker....

    Fucker should be remanded to jail if he doesn't post bond.
    i hope they seize his buildings. even if they are worth half of what he says they are, he is gonna run out of buildings soon enough.
    Change the locks.
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