---President Elect Musk and Convicted Criminal VP Elect Donald J Trump---

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    That’s oddly worded. Should be who would you vote for in a generic ballot dem or rep, probably or definitely
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,295
    2023
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Someone mentioned his fall from grace the other day. Kind of sad, I still associate him with keeping us together after 9/11.
    Was watching the Painkiller series on Netflix, had no idea he defended Perdue and their family.
    Giuliani completely trashed his own legacy.  I have zero sympathy for the man. 
    Yeah, fuck that guy. 

    He might have saved New York 20+ years ago but he also tried to rat fuck the 2020 election after the fact. 

    Exactly!  And even his roll in 9/11 has been questioned:

    "Interviews with more than 50 firefighters and department officers show a mix of admiration and disdain for the former mayor. Many firefighters praise his years in office, citing his success in reducing crime and his leadership after the terrorist attacks. Others harbor a resentment for what they describe as his poor treatment of the department before and after Sept. 11.

    Some still speak bitterly about a contract that left firefighters without a raise for two years. Some also say Mr. Giuliani has exaggerated the role he played after the terrorist attacks, casting himself as a hero for political gain."


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,274
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,380
    2023
    Even sham hucksters at Newsmax know it is ridiculous 
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,337
    2023
    Even sham hucksters at Newsmax know it is ridiculous 
    Get ready for a lot of powder puff softball questions followed by large word salads, served up sloppy. The hilarious thing is, the base will eat it up. 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,749
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:


    I know it’s not your point but these polls are pretty horrible.

    Let’s forget the fact trump knowingly sent an angry armed mob to attack congress and two of his voters and five cops died. Let’s forget the fact Biden cut inflation six percent, passed an infrastructure bill twenty years in the making, passed a bill lowering Medicare drug costs also long overdue.

    considering all that, they are nearly tied in every poll. This country is a Sh!tshow 
    I don't get too worked about the polls.  They were tight leading into 2020 and tight leading into 2022, yet the D's won pretty convincingly, all things considered.  Remember that the polls are only as good as how they weight Ds and R's. That's what Rasmussen always gives the R's a better showing than others, because they believe that R's make up a bigger proportion of the electorate than the other polls.  And so if you put enough of these together, then average them like RCP does, well it looks tighter than it is.  

    Here's the other thing. Now these polls all seem to be done through SMS.  I answered one a month ago, and now I'm getting hit with them once per week.  They are selling and sharing data of responders.  So the polls are starting to be self-fulfilling.  People who answer them, answer more of them.  


    I agree polling in this era is very difficult, but Biden won 2020 by 40,000 votes in a handful of states,  and the dems actually lost in 2022, despite how the media portrays it. No matter how the media spins it, McCarthy is not a democrat, and his party won.

    considering what trump did on Jan six, and the relative success Biden has had coming out of the pandemic, it’s absolutely brutal these polls are nearly tied. And trumps approval rating has actually increased ten percent amongst republicans since his first indictment.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
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    There is no saving these people. They trust Donald Trump more than their own family. 


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,337
    2023
    There is no saving these people. They trust Donald Trump more than their own family. 


    It’s a cult.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    There is no saving these people. They trust Donald Trump more than their own family. 


    I looked at a lot of the questions from that poll, and it just reinforces that 2/3rds of republican voters are a lost cause. And then the remaining will just vote for him knowing he’s a fraud, and I’m not sure which group is more disheartening. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,337
    2023
    4 indictments, 91 charges, 1 $200K bond. So much winning. Tired of winning yet?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    2023
    The conditions for his bail release seem pretty strict. Over/under 24 hours before he violates one of them?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    2023
    There is no saving these people. They trust Donald Trump more than their own family. 


    I looked at a lot of the questions from that poll, and it just reinforces that 2/3rds of republican voters are a lost cause. And then the remaining will just vote for him knowing he’s a fraud, and I’m not sure which group is more disheartening. 
    They are delusional....this is a screenshot of a response to my friend's FB post. He had posted an article about tRump backing out of posting his "proof" related to the GA charges.


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,908
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    Can he just fly that plane of his over to Russia to be with his bedroom buddy one can dream no! 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    There is no saving these people. They trust Donald Trump more than their own family. 


    I looked at a lot of the questions from that poll, and it just reinforces that 2/3rds of republican voters are a lost cause. And then the remaining will just vote for him knowing he’s a fraud, and I’m not sure which group is more disheartening. 
    They are delusional....this is a screenshot of a response to my friend's FB post. He had posted an article about tRump backing out of posting his "proof" related to the GA charges.


    Soon! How many times have we heard that? 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    mickeyrat said:
    Shouldn't be a surprise. 

    They had a "stop the steal" movement planned for 2016 as well, as they expected him to lose and they planned to say the election was rigged. 

    It's weird how little that gets talked about. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,482
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Someone mentioned his fall from grace the other day. Kind of sad, I still associate him with keeping us together after 9/11.
    Was watching the Painkiller series on Netflix, had no idea he defended Perdue and their family.
    Is that show good? Thinking of giving it a go
    Its good. Not as good as Dope Sick, but still good.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
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    2023
    honest question though. why would trump even consider paying for legal defense of the co-defendants? they knew what they were getting in to.

    hell, rudy's shitty lawyering is part of the reason trump is in the legal storm he is in. rudy did a terrible job and i would argue that he does not deserve to be paid.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,274
    honest question though. why would trump even consider paying for legal defense of the co-defendants? they knew what they were getting in to.

    hell, rudy's shitty lawyering is part of the reason trump is in the legal storm he is in. rudy did a terrible job and i would argue that he does not deserve to be paid.

    he said he would

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    honest question though. why would trump even consider paying for legal defense of the co-defendants? they knew what they were getting in to.

    hell, rudy's shitty lawyering is part of the reason trump is in the legal storm he is in. rudy did a terrible job and i would argue that he does not deserve to be paid.

    he said he would

    well, believing him is their stupid mistake.
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