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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    shecky said:
    "Most of us are not suffering like we were four years ago." Ha ha ha! Dude, you are delusional.
    I am sorry that things are not good for you right now, sheck. That is too bad. 
    Here's thing Juggler.  Capitalism creates winners and losers.  Not everyone can be successful.  Otherwise we are just communists.  So for all of us that have had a great run, particularly in the job and stock market, there will be a few that lose out.  That's the nature of our system.  So @Shecky has had a tough go of it.  It's unfortunate, but we do have social programs to even the playing field a bit and him through the tough times.  Thankfully.  
  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,054
    shecky said:
    "Most of us are not suffering like we were four years ago." Ha ha ha! Dude, you are delusional.
    I am sorry that things are not good for you right now, sheck. That is too bad. 
    No worries - January 20, 2025 will be here before you know it! Until then, as long as if I can continue to afford my $100.00 weekly donation to President Donald Trump's TRUMP NATIONAL COMMITEE JFC, I'm fine!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,333
    2023
    shecky said:
    shecky said:
    "Most of us are not suffering like we were four years ago." Ha ha ha! Dude, you are delusional.
    I am sorry that things are not good for you right now, sheck. That is too bad. 
    No worries - January 20, 2025 will be here before you know it! Until then, as long as if I can continue to afford my $100.00 weekly donation to President Donald Trump's TRUMP NATIONAL COMMITEE JFC, I'm fine!
    Pics of recurring charges on a credit card or bank statement or it ain’t happening.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    shecky said:
    shecky said:
    "Most of us are not suffering like we were four years ago." Ha ha ha! Dude, you are delusional.
    I am sorry that things are not good for you right now, sheck. That is too bad. 
    No worries - January 20, 2025 will be here before you know it! Until then, as long as if I can continue to afford my $100.00 weekly donation to President Donald Trump's TRUMP NATIONAL COMMITEE JFC, I'm fine!
    God,  I hope this is true.  We figured you were the mark,  but holy cow. 
  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,054

  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    shecky said:
    Like I said, "I think I'll wait for a thorough invesitgation to be conducted before I reach an opinion."
    And republicans have been maintaining their opinions that Trump is not guilty after every investigation. Their is no wait and see. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    shecky said:
    "Most of us are not suffering like we were four years ago." Ha ha ha! Dude, you are delusional.
    I am sorry that things are not good for you right now, sheck. That is too bad. 
    Here's thing Juggler.  Capitalism creates winners and losers.  Not everyone can be successful.  Otherwise we are just communists.  So for all of us that have had a great run, particularly in the job and stock market, there will be a few that lose out.  That's the nature of our system.  So @Shecky has had a tough go of it.  It's unfortunate, but we do have social programs to even the playing field a bit and him through the tough times.  Thankfully.  
    yeah but those programs can be considered "socialist", and shecky's party don't like that very much.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,333
    2023
    shecky said:

    The clown has emerged from the car and is speaking in ties!


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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,054

    LARRY KUDLOW: 'Look under the hood' of Biden's May jobs report and you'll see the problem

    Unemployment rate rose to 4%

    By Larry Kudlow FOXBusiness

    If you're going to buy a pre-owned, used car like so many people have to do nowadays, you can't just be impressed by a shiny new paint job. 

    Instead, you've got to look under the hood. You've got to check out the engine, the oil, battery, brake fluid and spark plugs. 

    Well, today's release of the May jobs report is much the same. The shiny, new paint job was a significant 272,000 increase. Although nearly half of that was government and government-related jobs, that's what the nonfarm payrolls showed. However, when you lift up the hood, what you see is an incredible 408,000 job loss from the household survey

    US JOB GROWTH JUMPS BY 272K IN MAY WHILE UNEMPLOYMENT UNEXPECTEDLY RISES

    So what's the difference between the two? Well, the payroll establishment survey is mostly larger, established companies where the Bureau of Labor Statistics dials up the human resources department and gets a job headcount, but for the household survey, the BLS mainly calls families and individuals to ask if they are employed or not. 

    Traditionally, the household survey is more heavily weighted toward small businesses, and actually over the past year has produced only a tiny 31,000 increase in jobs. Now, additionally, under the hood, the civilian labor force shrunk by 250,000 and as a consequence, the unemployment rate notched up to 4%. And another key indicator of the labor force is the employment-to-population ratio, which fell slightly in May to 60.1%. 

    Now aside, the late, great labor economist Ed Lazear, former CEA chair, longtime professor at Stanford University, Ed Lazear always pointed to the employment-population ratio as the single best indicator of labor market strength or weakness. He was, by the way, a dear friend and mentor of mine. 

    Now, during the Trump years, the employment population ratio reached 61.1% — that's 1% higher than today's number. However, going further back, the peak in that ratio was 64.6% in May of 2000. So, the point here is more people ought to be working. 

    And my guess is, among the many complexities of the job story, both federal and state governments more and more are offering overly generous benefits not to work, but there is more concern with these job numbers. 

    Once again, full-time jobs fell 605,000 in May. This is not a monthly problem — this is a long-playing record. It's mirror image: Part-time jobs gained 286,000. So if full-timers are plunging and part-timers are surging, that cannot be a healthy economic sign. Additionally, in just May alone, 414,000 immigrants, both legal and illegal, gained jobs, while 663,000 native-born Americans lost jobs. This discouraging pattern has been going on for quite some time, but the trend line has accelerated significantly during the Biden years. 

    Now, in terms of the ongoing Biden affordability crisis, if you call through the numbers over the past 12 months, the combination of average hourly earnings — that's wages — for production people — working folks — that times, hours worked, you get a proxy for their income, and that income number comes to only 3.4% increase, which is about the same as the consumer price index, which means they're not getting ahead of the ongoing inflation. 

    Indeed, over Biden's entire term, real wages have fallen while all these prices have exploded. 

    So when you look at all these car parts under the hood, frankly, I think folks are going to buy a much better model: one that has lower taxes, deregulation and drill, baby, drill. We'll have to find a car that suits all that.

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    shecky said:
    "Most of us are not suffering like we were four years ago." Ha ha ha! Dude, you are delusional.
    I am sorry that things are not good for you right now, sheck. That is too bad. 
    Here's thing Juggler.  Capitalism creates winners and losers.  Not everyone can be successful.  Otherwise we are just communists.  So for all of us that have had a great run, particularly in the job and stock market, there will be a few that lose out.  That's the nature of our system.  So @Shecky has had a tough go of it.  It's unfortunate, but we do have social programs to even the playing field a bit and him through the tough times.  Thankfully.  
    It sounds like he thinks Donald Trump will solve all of his problems. A true conservative, that shecky. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    2023
    "The unemployment rate rose to 4%"


    Get a job, shecky. There's plenty to be had. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,333
    2023
    shecky said:

    LARRY KUDLOW: 'Look under the hood' of Biden's May jobs report and you'll see the problem

    Unemployment rate rose to 4%

    By Larry Kudlow FOXBusiness

    If you're going to buy a pre-owned, used car like so many people have to do nowadays, you can't just be impressed by a shiny new paint job. 

    Instead, you've got to look under the hood. You've got to check out the engine, the oil, battery, brake fluid and spark plugs. 

    Well, today's release of the May jobs report is much the same. The shiny, new paint job was a significant 272,000 increase. Although nearly half of that was government and government-related jobs, that's what the nonfarm payrolls showed. However, when you lift up the hood, what you see is an incredible 408,000 job loss from the household survey

    US JOB GROWTH JUMPS BY 272K IN MAY WHILE UNEMPLOYMENT UNEXPECTEDLY RISES

    So what's the difference between the two? Well, the payroll establishment survey is mostly larger, established companies where the Bureau of Labor Statistics dials up the human resources department and gets a job headcount, but for the household survey, the BLS mainly calls families and individuals to ask if they are employed or not. 

    Traditionally, the household survey is more heavily weighted toward small businesses, and actually over the past year has produced only a tiny 31,000 increase in jobs. Now, additionally, under the hood, the civilian labor force shrunk by 250,000 and as a consequence, the unemployment rate notched up to 4%. And another key indicator of the labor force is the employment-to-population ratio, which fell slightly in May to 60.1%. 

    Now aside, the late, great labor economist Ed Lazear, former CEA chair, longtime professor at Stanford University, Ed Lazear always pointed to the employment-population ratio as the single best indicator of labor market strength or weakness. He was, by the way, a dear friend and mentor of mine. 

    Now, during the Trump years, the employment population ratio reached 61.1% — that's 1% higher than today's number. However, going further back, the peak in that ratio was 64.6% in May of 2000. So, the point here is more people ought to be working. 

    And my guess is, among the many complexities of the job story, both federal and state governments more and more are offering overly generous benefits not to work, but there is more concern with these job numbers. 

    Once again, full-time jobs fell 605,000 in May. This is not a monthly problem — this is a long-playing record. It's mirror image: Part-time jobs gained 286,000. So if full-timers are plunging and part-timers are surging, that cannot be a healthy economic sign. Additionally, in just May alone, 414,000 immigrants, both legal and illegal, gained jobs, while 663,000 native-born Americans lost jobs. This discouraging pattern has been going on for quite some time, but the trend line has accelerated significantly during the Biden years. 

    Now, in terms of the ongoing Biden affordability crisis, if you call through the numbers over the past 12 months, the combination of average hourly earnings — that's wages — for production people — working folks — that times, hours worked, you get a proxy for their income, and that income number comes to only 3.4% increase, which is about the same as the consumer price index, which means they're not getting ahead of the ongoing inflation. 

    Indeed, over Biden's entire term, real wages have fallen while all these prices have exploded. 

    So when you look at all these car parts under the hood, frankly, I think folks are going to buy a much better model: one that has lower taxes, deregulation and drill, baby, drill. We'll have to find a car that suits all that.

    Yo, those 600K+ “real” Americans losing their jobs? They’re called boomer retirees. And OMG, unemployment at 4%! Fuck! I remember when “full employment” was first defined as 8% unemployment and then 5%. And now we’re whining about 4%. How spoilt we are. Whaaaaaaaaa, it’s not 0% for white males and 15% for the “other.”
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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,054

    "Once again, full-time jobs fell 605,000 in May. This is not a monthly problem — this is a long-playing record. It's mirror image: Part-time jobs gained 286,000. So if full-timers are plunging and part-timers are surging, that cannot be a healthy economic sign. Additionally, in just May alone, 414,000 immigrants, both legal and illegal, gained jobs, while 663,000 native-born Americans lost jobs. This discouraging pattern has been going on for quite some time, but the trend line has accelerated significantly during the Biden years. 

    Now, in terms of the ongoing Biden affordability crisis, if you call through the numbers over the past 12 months, the combination of average hourly earnings — that's wages — for production people — working folks — that times, hours worked, you get a proxy for their income, and that income number comes to only 3.4% increase, which is about the same as the consumer price index, which means they're not getting ahead of the ongoing inflation. 

    Indeed, over Biden's entire term, real wages have fallen while all these prices have exploded."

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,333
    2023
    What is the long playing record for corporate profits and tax cuts?
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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,054
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    Yale Law professor outlines potential Trump legal strategy following guilty verdict: 'What the nation needs'

    Yale Law professor Jed Rubenfeld argued former President Donald Trump is not yet a convicted felon

    Published June 8, 2024 2:30pm EDT

    A Yale Law professor suggests there is another strategy former President Donald Trump's legal team could pursue to limit the impact of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's case on the 2024 presidential election, after a New York jury found the former president guilty of 34 felony counts of falsified business records.

    In a newly-created podcast, titled Straight Down the Middle, Yale Law Professor Jed Rubenfeld took a look at what legal options Trump's defense team have been left with following the jury's verdict, as well as the appeal process that is slated to soon take place.

    The most obvious path for Trump's legal team to take in an effort to challenge the conviction is that of an appeal through the New York Appeals Court system in hopes of ending up at the Supreme Court – a process that Rubenfeld argued will take years to complete and could result in "irreparable harm."

    "Of course that would take years, and that's a problem here. Why is it a problem? It's a problem because the election will have taken place and if this conviction is unlawful and unconstitutional, it could have an effect on that election," Rubenfeld, a Constitutional law professor, said on his podcast.

    Pointing to surveys that show a "substantial number" of voters from the American electorate who say they will still vote for Trump in the upcoming presidential election if he is a convicted felon, Rubenfeld said, "If that's true, an unlawful conviction in this case could interfere with, and in fact decide the outcome of, the next election of the next President of the United States."

    "Even if the conviction were reversed on appeal years later, that effect could not be undone. In legal terms, that's called irreparable harm," Rubenfeld said.

    If the conviction were to be reversed on appeal down the road, Rubenfeld suggested that Bragg and Judge Juan Merchan would have "unlawfully interfered with the election and decided the outcome of the next election through unconstitutional means."

    "And no years-long appeal could have any effect on that," he added.

    DESPITE MEDIA REPORTS, RUBENFELD INSISTED THAT IT'S "NOT TRUE" THAT TRUMP IS ALREADY A "CONVICTED FELON" ARGUING THAT ONE IS "NOT A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE OF A JURY VERDICT."

    "YOU ARE NOT CONVICTED INTIL A JUDGE ENTERS THE JUDGEMENT OF GUILT. NOW, IN NEW YORK, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT  JUDGE MERCHAN WILL ENTER THAT JUDGEMENT OF GUILT AGAINST TRUMP ON THE SAME DAY HE ENTERS SENTENCING. THAT'D BE JULY 11th."

    Rubenfeld insisted there's "one other avenue" Trump's attorneys could take in combating the conviction — to sue in federal court and "ask for an emergency, temporary restraining order."

    Outlining what that effort would look like, Rubenfeld said: "In this federal action, Trump would sue District Attorney Bragg and other state actors and ask the judge, the federal judge, for an emergency temporary restraining order halting Judge Merchan from entering that judgment of guilt until the federal courts have had an opportunity to review and rule out the serious constitutional arguments that exist here."

    Rubenfeld, expressing concern over how it's a "bad look for this country" to criminally target former presidents for "unclear" crimes, also outlined what he believed to be problems with the case surrounding Trump.

    "Going after, criminally, a former president of the United States and somebody who is running for president now, that's a very bad look for this country," he said. "It's an especially bad look when the folks bringing the case and the judge deciding it are members of the opposing political party. And it's an even worse look when the crime is so unclear that the state is hiding the ball about what the actual charges are right up through the trial and indeed into the trial."

    '"Even now, we don't know exactly what the jury found Trump guilty of," Rubenfeld added.

    Rubenfeld said those who criminally target members of opposing political parties, in this case Trump, the "poll-leading candidate," then they "better have the goods."

    "You better not be pursuing some novel legal theory where you have to hide the ball [and] it's not even clear what the charges are," he said. "That could be a very dangerous precedent for this country. A very bad and dangerous precedent."

    "That's why it's so important for a federal court to review the constitutionality of this prosecution and decide was it constitutional or was it not," he added. "The only way to achieve that before the election takes place is for the Trump team to file an action in federal court and ask the federal court to temporarily hold off the entry of the judgment of guilt until the federal courts, and maybe the Supreme Court itself, can, on an emergency basis, adjudicate the likelihood of success of these constitutional arguments."

    If that doesn't happen, Rubenfeld said, then "that 'irreparable harm' danger that I mentioned before, well, that's where we are."

    "But if it does happen, the nation could get a ruling from the federal courts, even the Supreme Court of the United States, before the election takes place," he said. "Maybe that's what the nation needs, and maybe that's what the law requires here."

    Last week, at his trial in Manhattan, Trump was found guilty by the jury on all 34 counts of falsifying business records related to the hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in the lead up to the 2016 presidential election.

    Trump is scheduled to be sentenced on July 11 and could be sent to prison, just days before the Republican National Convention is slated to take place in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.0

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,266
    please. an as yet to be sentenced CONVICT.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,333
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    2023
    shecky said:
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    Yale Law professor outlines potential Trump legal strategy following guilty verdict: 'What the nation needs'

    Yale Law professor Jed Rubenfeld argued former President Donald Trump is not yet a convicted felon

    Published June 8, 2024 2:30pm EDT

    A Yale Law professor suggests there is another strategy former President Donald Trump's legal team could pursue to limit the impact of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's case on the 2024 presidential election, after a New York jury found the former president guilty of 34 felony counts of falsified business records.

    In a newly-created podcast, titled Straight Down the Middle, Yale Law Professor Jed Rubenfeld took a look at what legal options Trump's defense team have been left with following the jury's verdict, as well as the appeal process that is slated to soon take place.

    The most obvious path for Trump's legal team to take in an effort to challenge the conviction is that of an appeal through the New York Appeals Court system in hopes of ending up at the Supreme Court – a process that Rubenfeld argued will take years to complete and could result in "irreparable harm."

    "Of course that would take years, and that's a problem here. Why is it a problem? It's a problem because the election will have taken place and if this conviction is unlawful and unconstitutional, it could have an effect on that election," Rubenfeld, a Constitutional law professor, said on his podcast.

    Pointing to surveys that show a "substantial number" of voters from the American electorate who say they will still vote for Trump in the upcoming presidential election if he is a convicted felon, Rubenfeld said, "If that's true, an unlawful conviction in this case could interfere with, and in fact decide the outcome of, the next election of the next President of the United States."

    "Even if the conviction were reversed on appeal years later, that effect could not be undone. In legal terms, that's called irreparable harm," Rubenfeld said.

    If the conviction were to be reversed on appeal down the road, Rubenfeld suggested that Bragg and Judge Juan Merchan would have "unlawfully interfered with the election and decided the outcome of the next election through unconstitutional means."

    "And no years-long appeal could have any effect on that," he added.

    DESPITE MEDIA REPORTS, RUBENFELD INSISTED THAT IT'S "NOT TRUE" THAT TRUMP IS ALREADY A "CONVICTED FELON" ARGUING THAT ONE IS "NOT A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE OF A JURY VERDICT."

    "YOU ARE NOT CONVICTED INTIL A JUDGE ENTERS THE JUDGEMENT OF GUILT. NOW, IN NEW YORK, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT  JUDGE MERCHAN WILL ENTER THAT JUDGEMENT OF GUILT AGAINST TRUMP ON THE SAME DAY HE ENTERS SENTENCING. THAT'D BE JULY 11th."

    Rubenfeld insisted there's "one other avenue" Trump's attorneys could take in combating the conviction — to sue in federal court and "ask for an emergency, temporary restraining order."

    Outlining what that effort would look like, Rubenfeld said: "In this federal action, Trump would sue District Attorney Bragg and other state actors and ask the judge, the federal judge, for an emergency temporary restraining order halting Judge Merchan from entering that judgment of guilt until the federal courts have had an opportunity to review and rule out the serious constitutional arguments that exist here."

    Rubenfeld, expressing concern over how it's a "bad look for this country" to criminally target former presidents for "unclear" crimes, also outlined what he believed to be problems with the case surrounding Trump.

    "Going after, criminally, a former president of the United States and somebody who is running for president now, that's a very bad look for this country," he said. "It's an especially bad look when the folks bringing the case and the judge deciding it are members of the opposing political party. And it's an even worse look when the crime is so unclear that the state is hiding the ball about what the actual charges are right up through the trial and indeed into the trial."

    '"Even now, we don't know exactly what the jury found Trump guilty of," Rubenfeld added.

    Rubenfeld said those who criminally target members of opposing political parties, in this case Trump, the "poll-leading candidate," then they "better have the goods."

    "You better not be pursuing some novel legal theory where you have to hide the ball [and] it's not even clear what the charges are," he said. "That could be a very dangerous precedent for this country. A very bad and dangerous precedent."

    "That's why it's so important for a federal court to review the constitutionality of this prosecution and decide was it constitutional or was it not," he added. "The only way to achieve that before the election takes place is for the Trump team to file an action in federal court and ask the federal court to temporarily hold off the entry of the judgment of guilt until the federal courts, and maybe the Supreme Court itself, can, on an emergency basis, adjudicate the likelihood of success of these constitutional arguments."

    If that doesn't happen, Rubenfeld said, then "that 'irreparable harm' danger that I mentioned before, well, that's where we are."

    "But if it does happen, the nation could get a ruling from the federal courts, even the Supreme Court of the United States, before the election takes place," he said. "Maybe that's what the nation needs, and maybe that's what the law requires here."

    Last week, at his trial in Manhattan, Trump was found guilty by the jury on all 34 counts of falsifying business records related to the hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in the lead up to the 2016 presidential election.

    Trump is scheduled to be sentenced on July 11 and could be sent to prison, just days before the Republican National Convention is slated to take place in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.0

    “Suggests” being the operative word. A constitutional law scholar’s opinion does not make it so. I wonder, does the federal firearm form ask if you’ve ever been convicted of a felony or does it ask if you’ve ever been convicted of a felony but it’s under appeal and you’re running for POTUS? Cuz if I’m Hunter, I’m announcing my candidacy for POTUS as the Crack Party candidate.

    ”Flood the zone with shit,” as if POTUS candidates are not subject to the law while campaigning, running or having announced. Preposterous.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    shecky. serious question time.

    what exactly did trump fix the first time he was in office?

    what did he accomplish?
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,333
    2023
    I look forward to POOTWH’s acceptance speech at the repub convention where his American Carnage speech will seem like a fairy tale in comparison. Rather than temper himself and try to appeal to a greater audience, he’ll go off script and terrify any sane, normal person tuning in. Few and far between but still.
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    Yale Law professor outlines potential Trump legal strategy following guilty verdict: 'What the nation needs'

    Yale Law professor Jed Rubenfeld argued former President Donald Trump is not yet a convicted felon

    Published June 8, 2024 2:30pm EDT

    A Yale Law professor suggests there is another strategy former President Donald Trump's legal team could pursue to limit the impact of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's case on the 2024 presidential election, after a New York jury found the former president guilty of 34 felony counts of falsified business records.

    In a newly-created podcast, titled Straight Down the Middle, Yale Law Professor Jed Rubenfeld took a look at what legal options Trump's defense team have been left with following the jury's verdict, as well as the appeal process that is slated to soon take place.

    The most obvious path for Trump's legal team to take in an effort to challenge the conviction is that of an appeal through the New York Appeals Court system in hopes of ending up at the Supreme Court – a process that Rubenfeld argued will take years to complete and could result in "irreparable harm."

    "Of course that would take years, and that's a problem here. Why is it a problem? It's a problem because the election will have taken place and if this conviction is unlawful and unconstitutional, it could have an effect on that election," Rubenfeld, a Constitutional law professor, said on his podcast.

    Pointing to surveys that show a "substantial number" of voters from the American electorate who say they will still vote for Trump in the upcoming presidential election if he is a convicted felon, Rubenfeld said, "If that's true, an unlawful conviction in this case could interfere with, and in fact decide the outcome of, the next election of the next President of the United States."

    "Even if the conviction were reversed on appeal years later, that effect could not be undone. In legal terms, that's called irreparable harm," Rubenfeld said.

    If the conviction were to be reversed on appeal down the road, Rubenfeld suggested that Bragg and Judge Juan Merchan would have "unlawfully interfered with the election and decided the outcome of the next election through unconstitutional means."

    "And no years-long appeal could have any effect on that," he added.

    DESPITE MEDIA REPORTS, RUBENFELD INSISTED THAT IT'S "NOT TRUE" THAT TRUMP IS ALREADY A "CONVICTED FELON" ARGUING THAT ONE IS "NOT A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE OF A JURY VERDICT."

    "YOU ARE NOT CONVICTED INTIL A JUDGE ENTERS THE JUDGEMENT OF GUILT. NOW, IN NEW YORK, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT  JUDGE MERCHAN WILL ENTER THAT JUDGEMENT OF GUILT AGAINST TRUMP ON THE SAME DAY HE ENTERS SENTENCING. THAT'D BE JULY 11th."

    Rubenfeld insisted there's "one other avenue" Trump's attorneys could take in combating the conviction — to sue in federal court and "ask for an emergency, temporary restraining order."

    Outlining what that effort would look like, Rubenfeld said: "In this federal action, Trump would sue District Attorney Bragg and other state actors and ask the judge, the federal judge, for an emergency temporary restraining order halting Judge Merchan from entering that judgment of guilt until the federal courts have had an opportunity to review and rule out the serious constitutional arguments that exist here."

    Rubenfeld, expressing concern over how it's a "bad look for this country" to criminally target former presidents for "unclear" crimes, also outlined what he believed to be problems with the case surrounding Trump.

    "Going after, criminally, a former president of the United States and somebody who is running for president now, that's a very bad look for this country," he said. "It's an especially bad look when the folks bringing the case and the judge deciding it are members of the opposing political party. And it's an even worse look when the crime is so unclear that the state is hiding the ball about what the actual charges are right up through the trial and indeed into the trial."

    '"Even now, we don't know exactly what the jury found Trump guilty of," Rubenfeld added.

    Rubenfeld said those who criminally target members of opposing political parties, in this case Trump, the "poll-leading candidate," then they "better have the goods."

    "You better not be pursuing some novel legal theory where you have to hide the ball [and] it's not even clear what the charges are," he said. "That could be a very dangerous precedent for this country. A very bad and dangerous precedent."

    "That's why it's so important for a federal court to review the constitutionality of this prosecution and decide was it constitutional or was it not," he added. "The only way to achieve that before the election takes place is for the Trump team to file an action in federal court and ask the federal court to temporarily hold off the entry of the judgment of guilt until the federal courts, and maybe the Supreme Court itself, can, on an emergency basis, adjudicate the likelihood of success of these constitutional arguments."

    If that doesn't happen, Rubenfeld said, then "that 'irreparable harm' danger that I mentioned before, well, that's where we are."

    "But if it does happen, the nation could get a ruling from the federal courts, even the Supreme Court of the United States, before the election takes place," he said. "Maybe that's what the nation needs, and maybe that's what the law requires here."

    Last week, at his trial in Manhattan, Trump was found guilty by the jury on all 34 counts of falsifying business records related to the hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in the lead up to the 2016 presidential election.

    Trump is scheduled to be sentenced on July 11 and could be sent to prison, just days before the Republican National Convention is slated to take place in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.0

    They sounded kind of smart until the ‘crime is so unclear’ part. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,333
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    2023
    Here’s a tad of what Russ Vought believes. And it’s considered “seminal.” They’re not going away. This is the type of guy who gives their movement “legitimacy.” They’ve got the shock troops in the racist white nationalist militias. Feel free to follow him into battle as he leads the charge.

    And in America, the scary part is that this regime is now increasingly arrayed against the American people. It is both woke and weaponized. The national security state, with organs like the FBI, NSA, and CIA, are aligned against the American people, who are outraged by this revolution they never assented to. The FBI is investigating concerned parents attending open school board meetings as domestic terrorists. They are putting political opponents in jail. The NSA is surveilling the conversations of citizens. Therefore, the hour is late and time is of the essence to expose the charade, rally the country against it toward self-government once again, and seize every leverage point to arrest the damage.

    https://americanmind.org/salvo/renewing-american-purpose/

    Good luck ‘Murica.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,333
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    2023
    And here’s POOTWH’s economic policy that everyone can’t wait to get back too.

    Trump’s tax law did spur some investment and wage growth, but fell far short of its promises to goose the U.S. economy, according to a study published in March by researchers at Princeton University, the University of Chicago, Harvard University and the Treasury Department.

    Republicans frequently argued that the law’s tax cuts would pay for themselves, but in the end, only generated enough growth to offset 20 percent of the drop in federal revenue from lower rates, according to the nonpartisan Center for a Responsible Federal Budget. Economic growth from extending the law, the think tank found in a study published Thursday, would pay for between 1 and 14 percent of the future cost.

    Trickle down? Think you might need to see a doctor for that.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/06/09/biden-trump-taxes-election/
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    https://apnews.com/article/trump-probation-interview-hush-money-ff76617722766fb305d32d84a2bf3600   Trump to undergo probation interview Monday, a required step before his New York sentencing


     
    Trump to undergo probation interview Monday, a required step before his New York sentencing
    By MICHAEL R. SISAK
    2 hours ago

    Former President Donald Trump is scheduled to be interviewed by New York probation officials Monday, a required step before his July sentencing in his criminal hush money case, according to three people familiar with the plan.

    Trump will do the interview via a computer video conference from his residence at the Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida, the people told The Associated Press. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to disclose the plans publicly.

    One of Trump's lawyers, Todd Blanche, will be present for the interview. People convicted of crimes in New York usually meet with probation officials without their lawyers, but the judge in Trump's case, Juan Merchan, said in a letter Friday that he would allow Blanche's presence.

    The usual purpose of a pre-sentencing probation interview is to prepare a report that will tell the judge more about the defendant, and potentially help determine the proper punishment for the crime.

    Such reports are typically prepared by a probation officer, a social worker or a psychologist working for the probation department who interviews the defendant and possibly that person’s family and friends, as well as people affected by the crime.

    Presentence reports include a defendant’s personal history, criminal record and recommendations for sentencing. It will also include information about employment and any obligations to help care for a family member. It is also a chance for a defendant to say why they think they deserve a lighter punishment.

    A jury convicted Trump of falsifying business records at his own company as part of a broader scheme to buy the silence of people who might have told embarrassing stories about him during the 2016 presidential campaign. One $130,000 payment went to a porn actor, Stormy Daniels, who claimed to have had a sexual encounter with Trump, which he denied.

    Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, says he is innocent of any crime and that the criminal case was brought to hurt his chances to regain the White House.

    Trump's campaign spokesman, Steven Cheung, said in statement Sunday that President Joe Biden's Democratic Party allies “continue to ramp up their ongoing Witch-Hunts, further abusing and misusing the power of their offices to interfere in the presidential election.”

    “President Trump and his legal team are already taking necessary steps to challenge and defeat the lawless Manhattan DA case,” he said.

    Merchan has scheduled Trump's sentencing for July 11. He has discretion to impose a wide range of punishments, ranging from probation and community service to up to four years in prison.


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,345
    2024
    "we're suffering under biden"
    "purports he writes cheques to trump every month to the tune of a car payment"

    You can't make this shit up. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,333
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    "we're suffering under biden"
    "purports he writes cheques to trump every month to the tune of a car payment"

    You can't make this shit up. 
    Every week. It’s like accelerated payments on a mortgage except you don’t own a house at the end. Something much different.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    2023
    "we're suffering under biden"
    "purports he writes cheques to trump every month to the tune of a car payment"

    You can't make this shit up. 
    Every week. It’s like accelerated payments on a mortgage except you don’t own a house at the end. Something much different.
    Then you file bankruptcy like Trump's businesses have done countless times. Maga!
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    Guess who's meeting with his parole officer this morning. 

    I'll give you a hint: he's a 34-time convicted felon. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,908
    2025
    shecky said:
    shecky said:
    "Most of us are not suffering like we were four years ago." Ha ha ha! Dude, you are delusional.
    I am sorry that things are not good for you right now, sheck. That is too bad. 
    No worries - January 20, 2025 will be here before you know it! Until then, as long as if I can continue to afford my $100.00 weekly donation to President Donald Trump's TRUMP NATIONAL COMMITEE JFC, I'm fine!
    Like the saying goes “ There’s a fool born everyday” he possesses not one single ounce of human decency dignity or empathy for anyone that’s not like him good luck getting your $$$ worth 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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