Record Store Day April 22nd release of Pearl Jam's Give Way on Vinyl & CD. Clear vinyl Up @ 10club!

igotid88

BF89905 said:

PCV Records had at least ten records and a handful of CDs this morning.

We don't count Canada sales here

BF89905

igotid88 said:

BF89905 said:

PCV Records had at least ten records and a handful of CDs this morning.

We don't count Canada sales here

Haha, fair enough

dudeman

2-feign-reluctance said:

Arrived today! Fast! ⚡️ 

Did your 10c version arrive already?

demetrios

2-feign-reluctance said:

Arrived today! Fast! ⚡️ 

Whoa! That is as fast.

1ThoughtKnown

Went into a record store this afternoon. Four copies at $50 Canadian. 

These are going to be in the wild for a while, yet people are still paying $60US + shipping on Discjobs. 

BF25394

igotid88 said:

BF25394 said:

igotid88 said:

So I checked hitsdailydouble.com and it's not in the top 50. The vinyl alone should place it at 46. Which at the moment has Luke Combs at 15,347. Also i see Taylor's rsd is at number 2 with 68,515 even though there were 75,000 copies available. This includes streaming as well

Not every independent record store reports its sales to Luminate, so these numbers will be underreported. You're also assuming that all the Pearl Jam items were sold, which is unlikely. Either they sold something south of the 14,905 that would have gotten them into the top 50, or they sold more than that but unreported sales are not being accounted for. I know that my local independent record store does not report its sales. Transactions are done by hand, not by UPC scan, and they have confirmed to me that they do not report sales. (And this is not like RIAA certifications, which count shipments to retailers, not sales to consumers.)

The total number of Give Way LPs and CDs that were made available was 19,500. That is the theoretical maximum number of sales they could have achieved on Record Store Day, not the LP total alone. If all 19,500 had been sold and accounted for, it would have placed at No. 28 per HDD.

Taylor Swift's 68,515 sales total is all physical sales, in this case, LPs.

Yes I know. But seeing as there aren't anymore of the vinyl available you would think it would be counted. Usually they include the streams on HDD. It doesn't show on my phone. Even then there are 7k Taylor copies not counted. Either way I think we should see top 50 at best top 70 worst

But the only way for the sales to be counted is for them to be scanned. They don't accept someone's word that units were sold because it would be abused. I'm also not sure how you can state with certainty that "there aren't anymore of the vinyl available." Have you contacted every independent record store that received copies and confirmed that they're sold out? Even if every copy of TS's release were sold, there will still be an undercount because of non-reporting by many independent stores. Many indie stores are not set up with scanners because they add cost, and much of their inventory is used and not being sold for the list price that the scanner would ring up.

Are you sure the TS release was available to stream? Pearl Jam wasn't available to stream until Monday. Does HDD track streaming Friday to Thursday like Billboard or does it track Monday to Sunday? If it's Monday to Sunday, that would explain why it would have zeroes for Pearl Jam.

igotid88

BF25394 said:

igotid88 said:

BF25394 said:

igotid88 said:

So I checked hitsdailydouble.com and it's not in the top 50. The vinyl alone should place it at 46. Which at the moment has Luke Combs at 15,347. Also i see Taylor's rsd is at number 2 with 68,515 even though there were 75,000 copies available. This includes streaming as well

Not every independent record store reports its sales to Luminate, so these numbers will be underreported. You're also assuming that all the Pearl Jam items were sold, which is unlikely. Either they sold something south of the 14,905 that would have gotten them into the top 50, or they sold more than that but unreported sales are not being accounted for. I know that my local independent record store does not report its sales. Transactions are done by hand, not by UPC scan, and they have confirmed to me that they do not report sales. (And this is not like RIAA certifications, which count shipments to retailers, not sales to consumers.)

The total number of Give Way LPs and CDs that were made available was 19,500. That is the theoretical maximum number of sales they could have achieved on Record Store Day, not the LP total alone. If all 19,500 had been sold and accounted for, it would have placed at No. 28 per HDD.

Taylor Swift's 68,515 sales total is all physical sales, in this case, LPs.

Yes I know. But seeing as there aren't anymore of the vinyl available you would think it would be counted. Usually they include the streams on HDD. It doesn't show on my phone. Even then there are 7k Taylor copies not counted. Either way I think we should see top 50 at best top 70 worst

But the only way for the sales to be counted is for them to be scanned. They don't accept someone's word that units were sold because it would be abused. I'm also not sure how you can state with certainty that "there aren't anymore of the vinyl available." Have you contacted every independent record store that received copies and confirmed that they're sold out? Even if every copy of TS's release were sold, there will still be an undercount because of non-reporting by many independent stores. Many indie stores are not set up with scanners because they add cost, and much of their inventory is used and not being sold for the list price that the scanner would ring up.

Are you sure the TS release was available to stream? Pearl Jam wasn't available to stream until Monday. Does HDD track streaming Friday to Thursday like Billboard or does it track Monday to Sunday? If it's Monday to Sunday, that would explain why it would have zeroes for Pearl Jam.

I believe the TS album was streaming when the Disney plus episode came out. And I know it has to be scanned to be counted. So when they say 75k available are they all in the U.S. or all over the world? Or is it a separate batch? 

demetrios

https://instagram.com/p/Crqes31OQbO/embed/

Spiritual_Chaos

Is this readily available now post RSD, or did it all sell out?

TK46426

Iam not sure it completely sold out but watching this post on the Saturday of RSD it was mostly reported by people that the local store they go to were sold out or selling out that day. It seemed that fewer people were reporting that the stores had plenty. 

demetrios

TK46426 said:

Iam not sure it completely sold out but watching this post on the Saturday of RSD it was mostly reported by people that the local store they go to were sold out or selling out that day. It seemed that fewer people were reporting that the stores had plenty. 

Few record stores are sold out but many still have copies in stock. Many UK online stores still have copies available.

ZoSoTim

My friend owns a record store and said his copies of Give Way haven't arrived from the distributor yet. Also expects more of the Van Halen.

JeBurkhardt

ZoSoTim said:

My friend owns a record store and said his copies of Give Way haven't arrived from the distributor yet. Also expects more of the Van Halen.

On RSD the owner of my local store said he received plenty of the Give Way vinyl, but the CDs had been delayed and didn't expect to get them for a week or two. I haven't been back over there yet to see if he ever got them.

demetrios

Still available. https://www.banquetrecords.com/pearl-jam/give-way-[rsd23]/19658762471

dudeman

Any word on whether or not these have shipped from 10c? Aside from the label creation, my tracking info hasn't changed. Has anyone actually received the 10c variant yet?

tdawe

dudeman said:

Any word on whether or not these have shipped from 10c? Aside from the label creation, my tracking info hasn't changed. Has anyone actually received the 10c variant yet?

I got an email with tracking info on 4/24 and my copy arrived this morning. 

demetrios

dudeman said:

Any word on whether or not these have shipped from 10c? Aside from the label creation, my tracking info hasn't changed. Has anyone actually received the 10c variant yet?

I see a few folks on Instagram have received their copy. My vinyl tracking just updated on the UPS site this afternoon.

HesCalledDyer

dudeman said:

Any word on whether or not these have shipped from 10c? Aside from the label creation, my tracking info hasn't changed. Has anyone actually received the 10c variant yet?

No movement or updates here. About what I expect from Ten Club LLC.

BF25394

A couple of tidbits:

1) Billboard is reporting TS's RSD release as having exactly 75,000 equivalent units, all from sales of the vinyl. This is interesting not only because it means that all copies were sold, but that all were somehow accounted for. I'm not sure how this is possible.

2) As previously noted, there is no streaming data for the TS RSD tracks. I have seen someone claim that this is because the streams of those individual tracks are credited to Folklore. I don't know if that's true. If it is, it is yet another example of how the Billboard 200 is completely screwed-up in its measurement of streaming. That chart no longer has any meaning even though it still remains the chart of record.

3) Data were delayed due to problems with Luminate this week. Maybe that accounts for the possible absence of PJ streaming data in the HDD report.

lexicondevil

dudeman said:

Any word on whether or not these have shipped from 10c? Aside from the label creation, my tracking info hasn't changed. Has anyone actually received the 10c variant yet?

I got mine yesterday. Completely surprised, since I did check early afternoon and it hadn't even shipped according to my account. That was quick.