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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Out of My Mind and TimeOut of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    Out of My Mind and Time said:

    I just focus on news bud...tRump posted the video so if you think his posting that video and me finding it hilarious is some proof that he's living in my head that's fine.

    I didn't vote for the piece of shit.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275


    now that's funny...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,921
    Now that's a thread title.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    Poncier said:
    Now that's a thread title.
    I prefer III to 3 but I wasn't going to say anything.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    Gern Blansten said:
    Poncier said:
    Now that's a thread title.
    I prefer III to 3 but I wasn't going to say anything.
    I would have gone w/ "TFG" but that's just me. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Out of My Mind and Time said:

    M&M's becoming less sexy....or the prospect of the government physically taking your stove from your house. What would you say triggers you more?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    Poncier said:
    Now that's a thread title.
    What’d you expect when I don’t leave my mom’s basement and going outside and interacting with people gives you the virussssss? My, how the other half lives.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    And you gotta love the going all rain man.

    Analysis: Under oath, Trump is confronted with his ‘hoax’ hyperbole 

    In the abstract, former president Donald Trump’s general lack of credibility on what may or may not be a hoax is not terribly important. But in the context of a lawsuit centered on allegations that he sexually assaulted author E. Jean Carroll several decades ago, Carroll’s attorneys found it useful to point out that Trump simply says everything is a hoax, even when he obviously doesn’t think it is.

    As when he said that about Carroll’s accusations.

    As Philip Bump writes, a portion of Trump’s sworn deposition was published Wednesday, offering insight into the questions being presented to the former president as he seeks to defend himself against the charge that he defamed Carroll in denying her assault allegations.

    Per Phil:

    The transcript also depicts an obviously angry and frustrated Trump lashing out at the questioners and disparaging various other perceived enemies, like New York Attorney General Letitia James (D).
    At one point, Trump was presented with a social-media post he published about the situation in which he declared that “it is a hoax and a lie just like all of the other hoaxes that have been played on me for the past seven years.”
    “I take it what you’re saying there is Ms. Carroll fabricated her claim that you sexually assaulted her; correct?” a lawyer for Carroll asked.
    “Yes. Totally,” Trump replied. “100 percent.”
    “Fair to say — you’d agree with me, would you not, that you use the term ‘hoax’ quite a lot?” the lawyer continued.
    “Yes, I do,” Trump replied, later adding that “I’ve had a lot of hoaxes played on me. This is one of them.”
    “How would you define the word ‘hoax’?” the lawyer asked.
    “A fake story,” Trump replied — “a false story, a made-up story.”
    This is fairly accurate, really. Trump obviously uses “hoax” not in the sense that most people do but, instead, to describe something that he would like to argue is overstated or inaccurate. That those things are generally not inaccurate or overstated but often at most included contested elements has certainly never prompted Trump to moderate his disparagement.
    For Carroll’s lawyers, though, this is useful. Trump calls Carroll’s claim “a hoax” — just as he did other things that are obviously not hoaxes. Things that he was simply trying to dismiss or disparage because they were correct or accurate...
    But Carroll’s lawyers wanted something more concrete to demonstrate his flippancy on such allegations. So they walked him through some.
    “Isn’t it true,” an attorney asked, “that you also referred to the use of mail-in ballots as a hoax?”
    “Yeah, I do. Sure,” Trump replied. “I think they’re very dishonest. Mail-in ballots, very dishonest.”
    Then the lawyer struck: “Isn’t it true that you yourself have voted by mail?”
    “I do. I do,” Trump admitted. Then, a bit of moderation: “Sometimes I do. But I don’t know what happens to it once you give it. I have no idea.”

    You get the point.

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    Gern Blansten said:
    Poncier said:
    Now that's a thread title.
    I prefer III to 3 but I wasn't going to say anything.
    Can’t do that, then it would look like it’s a thread about his grandson.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    https://youtu.be/4PIjjmq5cqg

    i started playing this just before reading any trump truth social posts. it makes them even funnier.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    i heard trump is about to return to twitter and facebook. is that an admission that his social network sucks?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    And don't forget boys and girls, its up to us libs to make him go away by ignoring him. Sure, lets leave it up to the WWF crowd.

    Trump says he will give ‘big political speech’ Thursday, promises ‘many giant rallies’


    Former President Trump teased a “big political speech” he planned to deliver on Thursday, promising rallies and “wild and exciting” events for supporters as he rolls out his 2024 presidential campaign.

    “Making a big political speech today at TRUMP DORAL, in Miami,” Trump said in a post on his social media platform Truth Social on Thursday morning while claiming the media has accused him of “not campaigning very hard.”

    Trump maintained the election is “still a long time away,” adding, “But do not fear, MANY GIANT RALLIES and other events coming up soon. It will all be wild and exciting.”

    The conservative government watchdog group Judicial Watch announced on Thursday that Trump was slated to be the keynote speaker at the organization’s annual roundtable, a private event, Thursday evening.

    “President Trump engaged in a historic battle against government corruption and abuse, a battle which continues to this day,” said Tom Fitton, the organization’s president, in a statement. “We are honored he will address and educate Judicial Watch’s supporters about the ongoing rule of law crisis that so threatens our Republic.”

    The former president did not specify when he would deliver the speech from his Miami resort or what it would be about, but the announcement comes as some GOP strategists have started to criticize his 2024 campaign rollout as anemic.

    The run-up to Trump’s 2024 announcement was rocky, with many in the party pointing the finger at him for some of the less-than-stellar results for the GOP in the November midterms, particularly the performance of some Trump-backed Senate candidates.

    Trump also faces a potential collision course with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who is seen as a rising star in the party and could be one of Trump’s main rivals in the 2024 GOP presidential primary.

    But Trump has touted what he sees as his strength over DeSantis. This week, a Morning Consult poll found Trump with a 17-point lead over DeSantis in a hypothetical match-up.

    Trump says he will give ‘big political speech’ Thursday, promises ‘many giant rallies’ (msn.com)

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589
    edited January 2023
    Merkin Baller said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Poncier said:
    Now that's a thread title.
    I prefer III to 3 but I wasn't going to say anything.
    I would have gone w/ "TFG" but that's just me. 

    I would have chosen Fuckstick, The 3quel
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    edited January 2023
    So much winning. Tired of winning yet? And of course, good luck with that.

    Trump and lawyer ordered to pay $1m for bringing ‘frivolous’ lawsuit against Hillary Clinton

    Afederal judge has ordered Donald Trump and one of his attorneys to jointly pay nearly $1m in penalties for pursuing a frivolous lawsuit that accused Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and other perceived enemies of the former president of engaging in racketeering and concocting a vast conspiracy against him.

    The suit was dismissed in September and Trump was ordered to pay tens of thousands in November after one defendant sought sanctions. The latest order came after a group of the remaining defendants, including Clinton, filed a separate request for sanctions.

    The end of the lawsuit marks the latest legal setback for Trump as he grapples with an array of civil and criminal investigations, including the probe into his retention of sensitive documents, while some of his lawyers are under scrutiny themselves for conduct in those cases.

    Related: Trump mistook rape accuser E Jean Carroll for ex-wife, deposition shows

    In a scathing ruling, US district court judge Donald Middlebrooks castigated Trump and his lead attorney, Alina Habba, for abusing the legal system by advancing a lawsuit that furthered his political grievances over the 2017 Russia investigation using arguments replete with misinformation and errors.

    “We are confronted with a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith for an improper purpose,” Middlebrooks wrote in the 46-page order imposing sanctions of $937,989.39 against Trump and Habba.

    The lawsuit, originally filed by Trump in March 2022, alleged that Clinton and the Democratic National Committee conspired with senior FBI officials and others before the 2016 election to fabricate ties between the Trump campaign and Russia in order to damage him politically.

    But Middlebrooks dismissed the case after he found that Trump engaged in a scattershot pleading that amounted to an obstruction of justice, and which included allegations that were known to be false. His legal arguments, including racketeering and conspiracy, were found to be without foundation.

    The judge noted for instance that Trump’s allegations that former FBI director James Comey conspired with Clinton to prosecute him was wrong – as Trump was never prosecuted – while such a conspiracy was implausible since Comey likely damaged Clinton’s 2016 campaign by reopening the investigation into her emails.

    “I find that the pleadings here were abusive litigation tactics. The complaint and amended complaint were drafted to advance a political narrative; not to address legal harm caused by any defendant,” Middlebrooks wrote of Trump’s lawsuit.

    The judge also found that Trump’s racketeering and conspiracy lawsuit appeared to be part of a pattern by the former president of misusing the courts by filing frivolous lawsuits in order to serve a political purpose.

    “Misuse of the courts by Mr. Trump and his lawyers undermines the rule of law, portrays judges as partisans, and diverts resources from those who have suffered actual legal harm”, he wrote.

    Middlebrooks examined other seemingly politically motivated lawsuits filed by Trump and wrote that they all followed a playbook of including provocative rhetoric, political language carried over from rallies, attacks on political opponents, and ,typically, a lack of legal analysis.

    “Trump is a prolific and sophisticated litigant who is repeatedly using the courts to seek revenge on political adversaries. He is the mastermind of strategic abuse of the judicial process,” the judge wrote. “He knew full well the impact of his actions.”

    The immediate fallout of the sanctions order was not clear. Trump had wanted to drop the lawsuit after the case was assigned to Middlebrooks, an appointee of Bill Clinton, but Habba told Fox News in a segment referenced in the ruling that she had advised him to press ahead.

    Trump and Habba – as well as her law firm Habba, Madaio and Associates – are jointly liable for the $1m penalty, though the former president indicated to associates that he essentially believed it should be paid by his attorney instead of him, according to sources familiar with the matter.

    A spokesperson for Trump could not be reached for comment. A spokesperson for Habba did not provide comment.

    The penalty handed down by the judge, designed to disincentive future frivolous lawsuits, is in addition to a $50,000 fine imposed in November and $16,000 in reimbursement of legal costs for Charles Dolan, a Democratic public relations executive, who filed the first sanctions request.


    Trump and lawyer ordered to pay $1m for bringing ‘frivolous’ lawsuit against Hillary Clinton (msn.com)

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    So much winning. Tired of winning yet? And of course, good luck with that.

    Trump and lawyer ordered to pay $1m for bringing ‘frivolous’ lawsuit against Hillary Clinton

    Afederal judge has ordered Donald Trump and one of his attorneys to jointly pay nearly $1m in penalties for pursuing a frivolous lawsuit that accused Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and other perceived enemies of the former president of engaging in racketeering and concocting a vast conspiracy against him.

    The suit was dismissed in September and Trump was ordered to pay tens of thousands in November after one defendant sought sanctions. The latest order came after a group of the remaining defendants, including Clinton, filed a separate request for sanctions.

    The end of the lawsuit marks the latest legal setback for Trump as he grapples with an array of civil and criminal investigations, including the probe into his retention of sensitive documents, while some of his lawyers are under scrutiny themselves for conduct in those cases.

    Related: Trump mistook rape accuser E Jean Carroll for ex-wife, deposition shows

    In a scathing ruling, US district court judge Donald Middlebrooks castigated Trump and his lead attorney, Alina Habba, for abusing the legal system by advancing a lawsuit that furthered his political grievances over the 2017 Russia investigation using arguments replete with misinformation and errors.

    “We are confronted with a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith for an improper purpose,” Middlebrooks wrote in the 46-page order imposing sanctions of $937,989.39 against Trump and Habba.

    The lawsuit, originally filed by Trump in March 2022, alleged that Clinton and the Democratic National Committee conspired with senior FBI officials and others before the 2016 election to fabricate ties between the Trump campaign and Russia in order to damage him politically.

    But Middlebrooks dismissed the case after he found that Trump engaged in a scattershot pleading that amounted to an obstruction of justice, and which included allegations that were known to be false. His legal arguments, including racketeering and conspiracy, were found to be without foundation.

    The judge noted for instance that Trump’s allegations that former FBI director James Comey conspired with Clinton to prosecute him was wrong – as Trump was never prosecuted – while such a conspiracy was implausible since Comey likely damaged Clinton’s 2016 campaign by reopening the investigation into her emails.

    “I find that the pleadings here were abusive litigation tactics. The complaint and amended complaint were drafted to advance a political narrative; not to address legal harm caused by any defendant,” Middlebrooks wrote of Trump’s lawsuit.

    The judge also found that Trump’s racketeering and conspiracy lawsuit appeared to be part of a pattern by the former president of misusing the courts by filing frivolous lawsuits in order to serve a political purpose.

    “Misuse of the courts by Mr. Trump and his lawyers undermines the rule of law, portrays judges as partisans, and diverts resources from those who have suffered actual legal harm”, he wrote.

    Middlebrooks examined other seemingly politically motivated lawsuits filed by Trump and wrote that they all followed a playbook of including provocative rhetoric, political language carried over from rallies, attacks on political opponents, and ,typically, a lack of legal analysis.

    “Trump is a prolific and sophisticated litigant who is repeatedly using the courts to seek revenge on political adversaries. He is the mastermind of strategic abuse of the judicial process,” the judge wrote. “He knew full well the impact of his actions.”

    The immediate fallout of the sanctions order was not clear. Trump had wanted to drop the lawsuit after the case was assigned to Middlebrooks, an appointee of Bill Clinton, but Habba told Fox News in a segment referenced in the ruling that she had advised him to press ahead.

    Trump and Habba – as well as her law firm Habba, Madaio and Associates – are jointly liable for the $1m penalty, though the former president indicated to associates that he essentially believed it should be paid by his attorney instead of him, according to sources familiar with the matter.

    A spokesperson for Trump could not be reached for comment. A spokesperson for Habba did not provide comment.

    The penalty handed down by the judge, designed to disincentive future frivolous lawsuits, is in addition to a $50,000 fine imposed in November and $16,000 in reimbursement of legal costs for Charles Dolan, a Democratic public relations executive, who filed the first sanctions request.


    Trump and lawyer ordered to pay $1m for bringing ‘frivolous’ lawsuit against Hillary Clinton (msn.com)

    Hilarious...I wonder if tRump even paid Habba everything he owed them. Seems to me that Habba got caught up in the hype with tRump and is getting burned big time. She should have known better though.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    Is it normal for the lawyer to have a judgement against him for a frivolous lawsuit too? Always thought it was just the client who hired the lawyer.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    mace1229 said:
    Is it normal for the lawyer to have a judgement against him for a frivolous lawsuit too? Always thought it was just the client who hired the lawyer.
    I don't think so...the judge must have thought that the attorney should have known better. 

    Honestly the attorney was likely starstruck and thought it would be good for her career. Totally backfired but fuck her.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    Out of My Mind and Time said:

    This and other cartoons brought to you by the folks who called all liberals 'snowflakes'. Also, is this Branco guy the only right-wing cartoonist? He must be so lonely.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    benjs said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:

    This and other cartoons brought to you by the folks who called all liberals 'snowflakes'. Also, is this Branco guy the only right-wing cartoonist? He must be so lonely.
    unfortunately no....Gary Varvel still puts out his garbage. He hides behind his Christianity and spews out toxic lies in his cartoons.

    Varvel is independent now. Not sure if he is unemployable or what.
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    LOL....fucking hilarious. His attorney obviously said "fuck this"
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    Gern Blansten said:


    LOL....fucking hilarious. His attorney obviously said "fuck this"
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    What's the world without a good old Trump thread?!
    A better world.
    But that would be because there never had been Trump.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    brianlux said:
    What's the world without a good old Trump thread?!
    A better world.
    But that would be because there never had been Trump.
    So, you're saying there won't be a remake of Its A Wonderful Life, with Trump as the main character?
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,921
    edited January 2023
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    What's the world without a good old Trump thread?!
    A better world.
    But that would be because there never had been Trump.
    So, you're saying there won't be a remake of Its A Wonderful Life, with Trump as the main character?
    He could potentially take on the Lionel Barrymore role of Mr. Potter.



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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    Poncier said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    What's the world without a good old Trump thread?!
    A better world.
    But that would be because there never had been Trump.
    So, you're saying there won't be a remake of Its A Wonderful Life, with Trump as the main character?
    He could potentially take on the Lionel Barrymore role of Mr. Potter.



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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,982
    benjs said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:

    This and other cartoons brought to you by the folks who called all liberals 'snowflakes'. Also, is this Branco guy the only right-wing cartoonist? He must be so lonely.
    It's really quite ironic coming from one of two posters who are so outspoken in their vile hatred of a group of tens of millions of people, that's pretty much all they say when posting, then claiming anything about anyone living rent free in liberals' heads. the lack of self awareness is astounding. 
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    benjs said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:

    This and other cartoons brought to you by the folks who called all liberals 'snowflakes'. Also, is this Branco guy the only right-wing cartoonist? He must be so lonely.
    It's really quite ironic coming from one of two posters who are so outspoken in their vile hatred of a group of tens of millions of people, that's pretty much all they say when posting, then claiming anything about anyone living rent free in liberals' heads. the lack of self awareness is astounding. 
    I don't think it's a lack of self-awareness, I think it's an abundance of willful ignorance.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    edited January 2023
    benjs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    benjs said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:

    This and other cartoons brought to you by the folks who called all liberals 'snowflakes'. Also, is this Branco guy the only right-wing cartoonist? He must be so lonely.
    It's really quite ironic coming from one of two posters who are so outspoken in their vile hatred of a group of tens of millions of people, that's pretty much all they say when posting, then claiming anything about anyone living rent free in liberals' heads. the lack of self awareness is astounding. 
    I don't think it's a lack of self-awareness, I think it's an abundance of willful ignorance.
    Agreed.
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