Vault and vinyl are not synonymous. They are clearly leaving money on the table by not pressing more shows onto vinyl, because there is clear demand. But...the "Vault" series should be about shows that have not already been released.
Vault and vinyl are not synonymous. They are clearly leaving money on the table by not pressing more shows onto vinyl, because there is clear demand. But...the "Vault" series should be about shows that have not already been released.
That's true. The solution be to do both. Unreleased stuff for vaults, and maybe some highlight vinyls for the best show(s) on a tour.
Never understood why people want vinyls for anything from the bootleg era. Keep the Vault series to stuff we haven’t had official copies of before. If they don’t have full shows, do compilations from 1995, 1996, 1998.
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2003 - June 15 Fargo 2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg 2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View 2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago 2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York 2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia 2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View 2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon 2012 - Sept 30 Missoula 2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle 2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee 2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York 2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
Never understood why people want vinyls for anything from the bootleg era. Keep the Vault series to stuff we haven’t had official copies of before. If they don’t have full shows, do complications from 1995, 1996, 1998.
Because some people are a fan of the format. I have the Leeds 2014 CD bootleg, but it would still make the top of my list for shows I would want to get the vault treatment.
I was at Rome 2018. it was far from good. eddie's voice was shot so they did a lot of covers that the other guys would sing. the crowd was absolutely horrible. i ended up leaving half way through because of it. worst pj experience ever.
Never understood why people want vinyls for anything from the bootleg era. Keep the Vault series to stuff we haven’t had official copies of before. If they don’t have full shows, do complications from 1995, 1996, 1998.
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I was at Rome 2018. it was far from good. eddie's voice was shot so they did a lot of covers that the other guys would sing. the crowd was absolutely horrible. i ended up leaving half way through because of it. worst pj experience ever.
Did they doctor up his voice on the bootleg? I think he sounds great and the best of that 2018 tour. I also think part of letting the other three guys sing was to just give them the opportunity to sing a song in such a beautiful and historic city.
Never understood why people want vinyls for anything from the bootleg era. Keep the Vault series to stuff we haven’t had official copies of before. If they don’t have full shows, do compilations from 1995, 1996, 1998.
Never understood why people want vinyls for anything from the bootleg era. Keep the Vault series to stuff we haven’t had official copies of before. If they don’t have full shows, do compilations from 1995, 1996, 1998.
This 100%.
How can you have "never understood" why someone would like to spin a vinyl copy of a show they love/think is great? Even if said show is from post 2000.
Odd. How would someone miss to understand that.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Never understood why people want vinyls for anything from the bootleg era. Keep the Vault series to stuff we haven’t had official copies of before. If they don’t have full shows, do compilations from 1995, 1996, 1998.
This 100%.
How can you have "never understood" why someone would like to spin a vinyl copy of a show they love/think is great? Even if said show is from post 2000.
Odd. How would someone miss to understand that.
I do understand. The statement specifically says the “Vault” series. Release anything on vinyl but for vaults I always want something we haven’t already had access to a quality soundboard recording.
Never understood why people want vinyls for anything from the bootleg era. Keep the Vault series to stuff we haven’t had official copies of before. If they don’t have full shows, do compilations from 1995, 1996, 1998.
This 100%.
How can you have "never understood" why someone would like to spin a vinyl copy of a show they love/think is great? Even if said show is from post 2000.
Odd. How would someone miss to understand that.
Easy - the sound quality on these records would be similar/hardly discernible to your CD copy or stream on Nugs. Plus has the added inconvenience of having to flip sides. On top of that, is a version of Corduroy on Rome 2018 much different than a version of Corduroy from any of the other 2018 shows?
I was at PJ20, Wrigley 2013, London 2013 and lose zero sleep over not having recording of any of these for the reasons I just stated - other than banter between songs the versions of songs from these shows will be similar to any other version from their given tour.
2003 - June 15 Fargo 2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg 2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View 2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago 2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York 2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia 2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View 2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon 2012 - Sept 30 Missoula 2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle 2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee 2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York 2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
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2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
One time where CD/digital is superior.
- nonsense.
PJ Cuyahoga Flalls OH 8/26/1998
PJ Noblesviile IN 8/18/2000
PJ Cincinnatti OH 8/20/2000
PJ Columbus OH 8/21/2000
PJ Columbus OH 6/24/2003
PJ Hamilton Ontario 9/13/2005
PJ Phiadelphia PA 10/3/2005
PJ Cleveland OH 5/20/2006
PJ Columbia SC 6/16/2008.....
e.V Chicago IL 8/21/2008
e.V Philly PA 6/11/2009
e.V Bailtimore MD 6/14/2009...
PJ Chicago IL 8/23/2009
.PJ...Philly PA 10/27/2009 PJ.Philadephia PA 10/28/2009.
PJ Columbus OH 5/6/2010
PJ Cleveland OH 5/9/2010.
BRAD Columbus OH 10/5/2010
e.V St.Louis MO 7/1/2011
.PJ.. East Troy WI 9/3/2011..PJ..East Troy WI 9/4/2011
Neil Young & Crazy Horse Cleveland OH 10/8/2012
RNDM Chicago IL11/13/2012
Alice In Chains/SoundGarden Columbus OH 5/19/2013
AIC Fort Wayne IN 5/21/2013
PJ Pittsburgh PA 10/11/2013
AIC Cincinnati OH 5/17/2014
AIC Cleveland OH 5/19/2014
AIC Indianapolis IN 8/19/2014
PJ Cincinnati OH 10/1/2014
AIC Cincinnati OH 8/06/2015
RNDM Chicago IL 3/15/2016
PJ Columbia SC 4\21\2016
PJ Lexington KY 4/26/2016
PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2016
Soundgarden Columbus OH 5/20/2017 Canceled RIP Chris
AIC Columbus OH 5/18/2018
PJ Chicago IL 8/18/2018 PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2018
PJ St Louis Missouri 9/18/2022
AIC Cuyohoga falls Oh. 8/16/2019
SHAWNSMITH Rip 2019Mark Lanegan Band 5/18/19
Odd. How would someone miss to understand that.
2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago