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Is Vedder a marketing genius (Self-titled album, 2006)

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,532
edited November 2022 in The Porch
Heard on the very interesting talk with Brad Klausen on the State of Love & Trust podcast.

Do you agree with Eddie? Or should they have had a different cover for this album?

I find it very much a (non-attractive) clash that the inside and the great looking 7 inch single covers had one style. And then the front cover and the tour t-shirts (WHY THE FUCK DID I BUT ONE IN SMALL AT THE TIME? WHAT WAS I THINKING? had a completely different bright blue avocado style. With the weird shadow.

Cool that Brad did the font himself though. The Era of elegant sans serif-fonts that started with Yield.


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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,037
    When I see an avocado, I don’t think of this record. I think, “am I 2 days too early to use this, or I am 29 minutes too late”
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    Maybe I'm in the minority but I think it's a great album cover. Much prefer that to the Backspacer or Lightning Bolt Covers.
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    Of The AggieOf The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,515
    I love this cover. The colors are beautiful.
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    CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,502
    It’s cool

    the shadow of the avocado I always notice

    great album
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,041
    Great fun album, lame cover.
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Great fun album, lame cover.
    I agree. And lame album title. With some exceptions (White Album, Black Album), I’m not big on self-titling albums that’s not a debut album. Like Alice in Chains’ third album for instance. And certainly this album. You’re stuck giving them silly nicknames like “Avocado,” or in the case of Alice In Chains, “Tripod” (for the three-legged dog on the cover). 
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,445
    Avocados and Pearl Jam are tied together for me. Not in every day life while buying an avocado but my avocado socks are definitely Pear Jam socks.
    Love the album and I find the nickname funny. I’m very easily amused though 
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    JPPJ84 said:
    Avocados and Pearl Jam are tied together for me. Not in every day life while buying an avocado but my avocado socks are definitely Pear Jam socks.
    Love the album and I find the nickname funny. I’m very easily amused though 

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    Great album.  Poor cover. Lazy title.  Thats my view. Worth nothing 
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    At least the Yield album cover had a nice landscape behind it, something more interesting to look at
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,042
    I always believe their titles have meanings, some are pretty obvious. I assumed this one, being their first free from their record label, was self titled to show they are in charge now. Maybe they were just lazy, but kinda makes sense to me.
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    D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,819
    When I see an avocado, I don’t think of this record. I think, “am I 2 days too early to use this, or I am 29 minutes too late”
    Only true avocado eaters will understand this . 
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    Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,759
    Don’t get the Marketing genius aspect here. Does Ed own an Avocado farm? I have avocados around always and have never once thought of this album. Now Yield signs are a totally different story 
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    Love the album, indifferent to the cover. I think the only album cover of theirs I really don't like is Backspacer, which is fitting, it's probably my least favorite record.
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    treestrees Columbus OHIO Posts: 1,841
    Don’t get the Marketing genius aspect here. Does Ed own an Avocado farm? I have avocados around always and have never once thought of this album. Now Yield signs are a totally different story 
    I remember  hearing  when the Yeild album  came out Yeild signs disappeared  in certain places  


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    treestrees Columbus OHIO Posts: 1,841
    D-Rod said:
    When I see an avocado, I don’t think of this record. I think, “am I 2 days too early to use this, or I am 29 minutes too late”
    Only true avocado eaters will understand this . 
    Avocado  farms got more business  when thus Album  came out I read


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    PJ Noblesviile IN 8/18/2000
    PJ Cincinnatti OH 8/20/2000
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    PJ Hamilton Ontario 9/13/2005
    PJ Phiadelphia PA 10/3/2005
    PJ Cleveland OH 5/20/2006
    PJ Columbia SC 6/16/2008.....
    e.V Chicago IL 8/21/2008
    e.V Philly PA 6/11/2009
    e.V Bailtimore MD 6/14/2009...
    PJ Chicago IL 8/23/2009
    .PJ...Philly PA 10/27/2009 PJ.Philadephia PA 10/28/2009.
    PJ Columbus OH 5/6/2010
    PJ Cleveland OH 5/9/2010.
    BRAD Columbus OH 10/5/2010
    e.V St.Louis MO 7/1/2011
    .PJ.. East Troy WI 9/3/2011..PJ..East Troy WI 9/4/2011
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    AIC Fort Wayne IN 5/21/2013
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,460
    edited November 2022
    I eat avocados almost three times a week! I haven’t listen to Avocado in years but I love the album cover and don’t care if the album didn’t really have a title, I just love Avocados. 
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,203
    OG mix or 2017 remix? Also, yes, avocados. Delish. 
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,554
    edited November 2022
    trees said:
    D-Rod said:
    When I see an avocado, I don’t think of this record. I think, “am I 2 days too early to use this, or I am 29 minutes too late”
    Only true avocado eaters will understand this . 
    Avocado  farms got more business  when thus Album  came out I read
    Before the album, avocados weren't "in". Now they're everywhere. Coincidence?
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,445
    JPPJ84 said:
    Avocados and Pearl Jam are tied together for me. Not in every day life while buying an avocado but my avocado socks are definitely Pear Jam socks.
    Love the album and I find the nickname funny. I’m very easily amused though 

    See, that amused me 😄
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,889
    mcgruff10 said:
    Great fun album, lame cover.
    I agree. And lame album title. With some exceptions (White Album, Black Album), I’m not big on self-titling albums that’s not a debut album. Like Alice in Chains’ third album for instance. And certainly this album. You’re stuck giving them silly nicknames like “Avocado,” or in the case of Alice In Chains, “Tripod” (for the three-legged dog on the cover). 
    How many exceptions will you allow one band?  Weezer has six self-titled albums known by colors.

    My favorite example of self-titling goes to Chicago, where pretty much every album they have released for more than 40 years had Chicago in the title, usually followed by a sequential number-- except for the album they released in 1978 that should have been Chicago XII but was inexplicably titled Hot Streets.  (Maybe it's because it was their stab at disco and they wanted deniability.)
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    BF25394 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Great fun album, lame cover.
    I agree. And lame album title. With some exceptions (White Album, Black Album), I’m not big on self-titling albums that’s not a debut album. Like Alice in Chains’ third album for instance. And certainly this album. You’re stuck giving them silly nicknames like “Avocado,” or in the case of Alice In Chains, “Tripod” (for the three-legged dog on the cover). 
    How many exceptions will you allow one band?  Weezer has six self-titled albums known by colors.

    My favorite example of self-titling goes to Chicago, where pretty much every album they have released for more than 40 years had Chicago in the title, usually followed by a sequential number-- except for the album they released in 1978 that should have been Chicago XII but was inexplicably titled Hot Streets.  (Maybe it's because it was their stab at disco and they wanted deniability.)
    Yeah another self-title lover to the extreme is Peter Gabriel. His first four solo albums are titled simply titled "Peter Gabriel" and fans have had to give them nicknames based on the album covers: Car, Scratch, Melt, and Security. His record label basically forced him to give his fifth album a title, and he went with "So" just to troll them. 
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    I love the album cover. It's simplistically unique. My wife has an avocado charm on her bracelet, and it reminds me of PJ's album every time I see it. I think the band was really proud of this album, because otherwise they wouldn't have named it Pearl Jam. 
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    For what it's worth, I think their three coolest album covers are No Code, Yield, and Binaural. Of course, Ten is really cool too! 
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    goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,366
    Love the album, hate the fruit!
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    LoujoeLoujoe Posts: 8,239

    I hear you can freeze cados if they start to get too ripe. Use as guac from the freezer, spread on bread, shakes or whatever.
    Yum-o
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,889
    For what it's worth, I think their three coolest album covers are No Code, Yield, and Binaural. Of course, Ten is really cool too! 
    Their best album cover is Vs. It perfectly encapsulates the feeling of the album.
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