Is Merkinball a perfect recording

eboweddieeboweddie Posts: 1,004
A friend of mine text me . He's a not a Pj fan persay. Said he heard Merkinball recently 
 He couldn't believe how incredible it sounds. Said its a perfect recording.  The vocals the mix.
Everything.I'd say I agree with him. Its absolutely amazing. I'd put it up there as one of Pjs best recordings.  

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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,246
    Yes it is perfect. And two of the best songs they’ve ever released. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,434
    yep....I got shit is my favorite PJ song (and some argue it isn't PJ...and technically that's correct)
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,837
    I Got Shit is also my favorite song.  Unfortunately doesn’t translate as well live, to me.  Not sure why Mike doesn’t play closer to the recording.

    Anyway, lots of bands use session players for recordings, so I think you could argue that this song is no different than that and it is 100% Pearl Jam.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,405
    Love these songs
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,391
    Two of my favorite songs.  Have these ever been played back to back live?
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  • JT167846JT167846 Posts: 896
    Not sure but I remember seeing both played in London in 2007. How many times have they both been played I wonder, no matter the order? Would guess Long Road is usually played as the opener so chances of them played back to back in order are rather slim.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,626
    Yes. I love the sound of the recording. The tunes are great, but however BOB captured the sound of the band then, it’s perfect. It’s raw, a touch muddy, but great separation of the instruments. I wish their records still had that sound. Vitalogy and No Code are pretty much in the same vein. 94-96 was their definite time sound in the studio IMO. 

    It must have been the way BoB was recording then because Purple had a similar vibe too. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,626
    As opposed to the last 2 BOB records with the band where you can tell it’s pro tools and everything is clear and crisp. No bueno. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,434
    JT167846 said:
    Not sure but I remember seeing both played in London in 2007. How many times have they both been played I wonder, no matter the order? Would guess Long Road is usually played as the opener so chances of them played back to back in order are rather slim.
    I Got Shit....played 158 times...opener 1 time
    Long Road..played 94 times...opener 74 times and closer 3 times

    I'm surprised at that...would have guessed LR played more
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,405
    Yes. I love the sound of the recording. The tunes are great, but however BOB captured the sound of the band then, it’s perfect. It’s raw, a touch muddy, but great separation of the instruments. I wish their records still had that sound. Vitalogy and No Code are pretty much in the same vein. 94-96 was their definite time sound in the studio IMO. 

    It must have been the way BoB was recording then because Purple had a similar vibe too. 
    Yup. Those albums sound fantastic
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,751
    Merkinball is indeed a great EP! Imho, their best EP is...
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,258
    I Got Shit is also my favorite song.  Unfortunately doesn’t translate as well live, to me.  Not sure why Mike doesn’t play closer to the recording.

    Anyway, lots of bands use session players for recordings, so I think you could argue that this song is no different than that and it is 100% Pearl Jam.
    I've always felt exactly the same way. I got Id is a top 5 studio song for me. Not nearly as good live.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,629
    eboweddie said:
    A friend of mine text me . He's a not a Pj fan persay. Said he heard Merkinball recently 
     He couldn't believe how incredible it sounds. Said its a perfect recording.  The vocals the mix.
    Everything.I'd say I agree with him. Its absolutely amazing. I'd put it up there as one of Pjs best recordings.  

    Oh yeah!  5 stars all the way.
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  • DissidentRival74DissidentRival74 Six One Five Posts: 150
    mace1229 said:
    I Got Shit is also my favorite song.  Unfortunately doesn’t translate as well live, to me.  Not sure why Mike doesn’t play closer to the recording.

    Anyway, lots of bands use session players for recordings, so I think you could argue that this song is no different than that and it is 100% Pearl Jam.
    I've always felt exactly the same way. I got Id is a top 5 studio song for me. Not nearly as good live.
    Definitely one of the very few songs that I prefer the studio over  any live version I've heard.
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  • I have always thought that no song captures the quintessential Pearl Jam sound better than I got shit.
  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,158
    Well, to me it’s pretty perfect, because this was the beginning of the end for a lot of casual fans. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,434
    I have always thought that no song captures the quintessential Pearl Jam sound better than I got shit.
    yep...to me I Got SHit and Corduroy are intertwined. I will never get tired of those songs
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,434
    i never realized, or maybe forgot, no stone or mike on the recording of these 2 songs. 
    and no Jeff on IGS....Brendon O'Brien on bass
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,178
    i never realized, or maybe forgot, no stone or mike on the recording of these 2 songs. 
    and no Jeff on IGS....Brendon O'Brien on bass
    So who played the instruments session musicians? It’s Ed by himself? 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,178
    Pap said:
    Merkinball is indeed a great EP! Imho, their best EP is...
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    Totally agree I like LR & I got Id but like solat & breath way better!
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  • fall by the waysidefall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 756
    i never realized, or maybe forgot, no stone or mike on the recording of these 2 songs. 
    and no Jeff on IGS....Brendon O'Brien on bass
    So who played the instruments session musicians? It’s Ed by himself? 
    Long Road: Ed, Neil Young, Jeff, Jack Irons

    I Got Shit: Ed, Neil, Brendan O’Brien, Jack Irons
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,178
    i never realized, or maybe forgot, no stone or mike on the recording of these 2 songs. 
    and no Jeff on IGS....Brendon O'Brien on bass
    So who played the instruments session musicians? It’s Ed by himself? 
    Long Road: Ed, Neil Young, Jeff, Jack Irons

    I Got Shit: Ed, Neil, Brendan O’Brien, Jack Irons
    Never knew that! 
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,751
    Q: Can you recall your first session and show with Pearl Jam?

    A: The first official session was the Merkinball sessions, and those were part of the Mirrorball sessions, I do believe. The first show was a Bridge School Show, and I played a Djembe – not that well – with a shaker taped to my shoe. I was pretty nervous. I think Pearl Jam was ready for some experimenting at the time, so it felt right to have me come aboard. 

    Q: Mirror Ball is one of my favorite records of all time. How did the project initially get off the ground?

    A: Neil [Young] and Pearl Jam had done some playing together prior to my joining. That extended into Pearl Jam working with him again for a concert when I first joined, and from that show came the opportunity to record with him. The recordings were done spontaneously and quickly, with Neil letting us do our thing with the tunes he wrote for those sessions. It was a great experience as I had always been a big fan of his music. 

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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,237
    I think it is. The No Code, Merkinball era stuff is golden. 
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  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,158
    edited October 2022
    It should go down as one of rock’s all time great collaborations. 
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    I think it is. The No Code, Merkinball era stuff is golden. 
    100% agree.  I d add yield to that list.  
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  • Let My Spirit PassLet My Spirit Pass Lakewood Colorado Posts: 259
    edited October 2022
    Merkinball is a MASTERPIECE. Two perfect songs on a perfect EP. The mix of the songs, the band in their prime, and the artwork. Perfect.
    I'm one of the lucky ones to see both songs in the same set...twice! Denver, June 23rd 1998 on the Yield tour and October 21st 2000 on the Binaural tour.
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  • matt3846matt3846 Posts: 156
    I'm one of the lucky ones to see both songs in the same set...twice!
    It didn’t occur to me at the time I guess, but I also twice got them both in one show!
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,206
    I think it is. The No Code, Merkinball era stuff is golden. 

    It is. Too bad there aren't much rough mixes, demos or rehearsal tracks released out there from the No Code era. If they ever released a No Code Box Set I hope they can make this happen. 
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