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"I saw them in 19XX, and it was too late even by then"

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,984
edited September 2022 in Other Music
I have an acquaintance, who when I told him I was going to see Rolling Stones this summer said "I saw them in 1976, and it was too late even by then". 

What artists have you seen when you felt it was "too late even by then", and why?

I GO FIRST

I saw KISS in 2022, and it was too late even by then because it was not the original lineup and Paul Stanley is lip syncing BUT Gene is still entertaining and it was still a very fun night out.

I imagine it was late even by 1979 with all the Dynasty-flair

"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,006
    Usually I don't go and see them because I do feel that I "missed it" but see them at the end to say that I did because they do have a legendary status.

    Allman Brothers
    Leonard Cohen
    Alice Cooper
    Motley Crue
    Patti Smith
    Anthrax

    I'm sure there are others.  These bands were fun to see but by no means in their prime.
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    Saw Bob Dylan in 2019 (yes I know that’s a whole other thread ;) ) and it was definitely too late because the songs were unrecognizable.

    Also saw Roxette during their farewell tour (2018??) and that was bittersweet as hell. It was too late to see Marie healthy and the band in full force but I was glad to have seen them before she passed away 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,984
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Usually I don't go and see them because I do feel that I "missed it" but see them at the end to say that I did because they do have a legendary status.

    Allman Brothers
    Leonard Cohen
    Alice Cooper
    Motley Crue
    Patti Smith
    Anthrax

    I'm sure there are others.  These bands were fun to see but by no means in their prime.
    I saw Leonard Cohen in 2010 and it is one of the best concerts I have ever seen.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,006
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Usually I don't go and see them because I do feel that I "missed it" but see them at the end to say that I did because they do have a legendary status.

    Allman Brothers
    Leonard Cohen
    Alice Cooper
    Motley Crue
    Patti Smith
    Anthrax

    I'm sure there are others.  These bands were fun to see but by no means in their prime.
    I saw Leonard Cohen in 2010 and it is one of the best concerts I have ever seen.
    I fell asleep.  He was not my bag just like Nick Cave, Type o Negative, Tom Waits and Life of Agony.
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,932
    REM on what ended up being their last tour. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,961
    Motorhead...we saw them not too long before Lemmy died.

    Lemmy gave it his all but he was obviously sick as hell
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,006
    Gern Blansten said:
    Motorhead...we saw them not too long before Lemmy died.

    Lemmy gave it his all but he was obviously sick as hell
    Oh man really?  At least you did get to see him.
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,502
    I saw Stones in1998..too late??.. not sure..
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,151
    I agree on KISS.  I saw them play about 5 or so years ago, and they felt past their prime.   Gene seemed visibly irritated that the crowd wasn't getting into it.

    I saw the Stones in 2019, but I feel I saw them on time.  Maybe not their hey dey, but I got to see them before Charlie passed.

    Counting crows I saw in 2016, not good.  They were probably better in the 90s.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,006
    23scidoo said:
    I saw Stones in1998..too late??.. not sure..
    Everything I've read is that they are STILL good.  I thought their Steel Wheels tour was their last great tour but apparently not.
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    lexicondevillexicondevil Bay Area Posts: 1,891
    Sex Pistols reunion. No regrets, though.
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    lexicondevillexicondevil Bay Area Posts: 1,891
    tempo_n_groove said:
    23scidoo said:
    I saw Stones in1998..too late??.. not sure..
    Everything I've read is that they are STILL good.  I thought their Steel Wheels tour was their last great tour but apparently not.
    I saw the Steel Wheels tour. It was good. I think I was more excited to see the opener. Was it GnR?
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    1992- Lollapalooza, Irvine, California
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,006
    lexicondevil said:
    Sex Pistols reunion. No regrets, though.
    That's interesting...  People have begged for a Fugazi reunion.  It will NEVER happen.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,728
    JPPJ84 said:
    Saw Bob Dylan in 2019 (yes I know that’s a whole other thread ;) ) and it was definitely too late because the songs were unrecognizable.
    I saw him around 2007ish and it was the same even back then. It wasn’t just the worst concert I’ve ever seen. It was the worst performance of any sort I’ve ever seen either live or on television. Just awful in every way imaginable. 
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    Saw Bob Dylan in 2019 (yes I know that’s a whole other thread ;) ) and it was definitely too late because the songs were unrecognizable.
    I saw him around 2007ish and it was the same even back then. It wasn’t just the worst concert I’ve ever seen. It was the worst performance of any sort I’ve ever seen either live or on television. Just awful in every way imaginable. 
    Finally someone who agrees with me ;) 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,984
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    Saw Bob Dylan in 2019 (yes I know that’s a whole other thread ;) ) and it was definitely too late because the songs were unrecognizable.
    I saw him around 2007ish and it was the same even back then. It wasn’t just the worst concert I’ve ever seen. It was the worst performance of any sort I’ve ever seen either live or on television. Just awful in every way imaginable. 
    Saw him in 2005, 2010, 2019 and now at the end of this month.

    COULDN'T LOOK FORWARD TO IT MORE. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,984
    edited September 2022
    JPPJ84 said:
    Also saw Roxette during their farewell tour (2018??) and that was bittersweet as hell. It was too late to see Marie healthy and the band in full force but I was glad to have seen them before she passed away 
    I saw the last tour with Marie, here in Sweden. Must have been 2015. On my birthday. Very happy I went. And she was still amazing. Even with resting on a stool all night. The rest of the "band" a bit goofy. Hehe.


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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,006
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    Saw Bob Dylan in 2019 (yes I know that’s a whole other thread ;) ) and it was definitely too late because the songs were unrecognizable.
    I saw him around 2007ish and it was the same even back then. It wasn’t just the worst concert I’ve ever seen. It was the worst performance of any sort I’ve ever seen either live or on television. Just awful in every way imaginable. 
    Oh that's tight!  I saw Dylan in 2015 I think?  Awful...
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,006
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    Saw Bob Dylan in 2019 (yes I know that’s a whole other thread ;) ) and it was definitely too late because the songs were unrecognizable.
    I saw him around 2007ish and it was the same even back then. It wasn’t just the worst concert I’ve ever seen. It was the worst performance of any sort I’ve ever seen either live or on television. Just awful in every way imaginable. 
    Saw him in 2005, 2010, 2019 and now at the end of this month.

    COULDN'T LOOK FORWARD TO IT MORE. 
    You must own a Cookie Monster sings Dylan album and have it on heavy rotation?
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    Of The AggieOf The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,493
    Saw GnR at ACL in 2019 and Axl couldn't sing. The rest of the band was great though. Wish I would have seen them with the classic lineup in their heyday.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,984
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    Saw Bob Dylan in 2019 (yes I know that’s a whole other thread ;) ) and it was definitely too late because the songs were unrecognizable.
    I saw him around 2007ish and it was the same even back then. It wasn’t just the worst concert I’ve ever seen. It was the worst performance of any sort I’ve ever seen either live or on television. Just awful in every way imaginable. 
    Saw him in 2005, 2010, 2019 and now at the end of this month.

    COULDN'T LOOK FORWARD TO IT MORE. 
    You must own a Cookie Monster sings Dylan album and have it on heavy rotation?
    Is this a Gene Simmons reference
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,984
    Of The Aggie said:
    Saw GnR at ACL in 2019 and Axl couldn't sing. The rest of the band was great though. Wish I would have seen them with the classic lineup in their heyday.
    Heard he rocked back in 2010 though. If it is Axl sounding great you want.

    https://youtu.be/8a4vKqVbGKw
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,006
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    Saw Bob Dylan in 2019 (yes I know that’s a whole other thread ;) ) and it was definitely too late because the songs were unrecognizable.
    I saw him around 2007ish and it was the same even back then. It wasn’t just the worst concert I’ve ever seen. It was the worst performance of any sort I’ve ever seen either live or on television. Just awful in every way imaginable. 
    Saw him in 2005, 2010, 2019 and now at the end of this month.

    COULDN'T LOOK FORWARD TO IT MORE. 
    You must own a Cookie Monster sings Dylan album and have it on heavy rotation?
    Is this a Gene Simmons reference
    No, you must like Dylans gravel voice that sounds like cookie monster...
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    Also saw Roxette during their farewell tour (2018??) and that was bittersweet as hell. It was too late to see Marie healthy and the band in full force but I was glad to have seen them before she passed away 
    I saw the last tour with Marie, here in Sweden. Must have been 2015. On my birthday. Very happy I went. And she was still amazing. Even with resting on a stool all night. The rest of the "band" a bit goofy. Hehe.


    My gosh, has it been this long?!? 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,717
    Only one that I can think of that only comes close to fitting the premise of this thread (an interesting one at that).  In the spring of 1974, my sister and I bought tickets to see Duke Ellington and his orchestra.  The show was cancelled due to Mr. Ellington having an illness and within a few weeks he was dead.  I so wish I'd taken the opportunity to see that giant of jazz at an earlier date.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,916
    edited September 2022
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    Saw Bob Dylan in 2019 (yes I know that’s a whole other thread ;) ) and it was definitely too late because the songs were unrecognizable.
    I saw him around 2007ish and it was the same even back then. It wasn’t just the worst concert I’ve ever seen. It was the worst performance of any sort I’ve ever seen either live or on television. Just awful in every way imaginable. 
    1999. Was too late then. 

    And two we saw right before it was too late...Fleetwood Mac in 2015 right before they fired Lindsay Buckingham, and The Eagles in 2016 right before Glen Frey died. 
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    DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,414
    Of The Aggie said:
    Saw GnR at ACL in 2019 and Axl couldn't sing. The rest of the band was great though. Wish I would have seen them with the classic lineup in their heyday.
    I saw them on the Coma tour (94?) and even then felt it was too late, since Izzy wasn’t around by that point. Still a good show (even had Axl cut the show short and storm offstage) though.
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    JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,498
    Van Halen, after Dave was gone. With Sammy wasn't bad, but based on what could have been if I had been a little older and managed to get to one of their shows.
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    hihobibohihobibo Tampa, FL Posts: 1,057
    I'm assuming you are saying the 1st time we saw them was too late, and not the latest time we saw them.

    By that statement, I'd say Neil Young in ~1998. Just old dudes on stage playing to each other in what looked like a jam session in their basement. Little crowd interaction, played in a half circle facing each other for the most part. Just not for me at that time.
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    lexicondevillexicondevil Bay Area Posts: 1,891
    Of The Aggie said:
    Saw GnR at ACL in 2019 and Axl couldn't sing. The rest of the band was great though. Wish I would have seen them with the classic lineup in their heyday.
    Got to see them at a small punk rock club in Long Beach, CA called Fender's. They opened up for Cheap Trick, which was insane. They tossed out a couple of copies of their then new record called Live Like a F*cking Suicide. It was that early on and I will say it was glorious. I was front row and you could smell their junkie B.O. right when they stumbled onstage. I've probably told this story on these boards before, but that is what old men do. =)
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