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R.I.P. The Republican Party
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Or as R.E.M. once said, "Welcome to the occupation."
The Lincoln Project tweeted, “Tonight, the nation marks the end of
the Republican Party. What remains shares the name and branding of the
traditional GOP, but is in fact an authoritarian nationalist cult
dedicated only to Donald Trump.”
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
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I was all for him at first because he wasn't traditional. How you can still support him though after everything he has done?
Madness.
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The winners fit a pattern: Across the battleground states that decided the 2020 vote, candidates who deny the legitimacy of that election have claimed nearly two-thirds of GOP nominations for state and federal offices with authority over elections, according to a Washington Post analysis.
In the 41 states that have held nominating contests this year, more than half the GOP winners so far — about 250 candidates in 469 contests — have embraced Trump’s false claims about his defeat two years ago, according to a Post analysis of every race for federal and statewide office with power over elections.
The proportion of election-denying nominees is even higher in the six critical battlegrounds that ultimately decided the 2020 presidential contest, where Trump most fiercely contested the results. In Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, at least 54 winners out of 87 contests — more than 62 percent of nominees — have embraced the former president’s false claims.
The count covers offices with direct supervision over election certification, such as secretaries of state, as well as the U.S. House and Senate, which have the power to finalize — or contest — the electoral college count every four years. Lieutenant governors and attorneys general are also included, with each playing a role in shaping election law, investigating alleged fraud or filing lawsuits to influence electoral outcomes.
Among the six battlegrounds, only Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania have nominated statewide candidates who would have direct power over the certification process and who worked to overturn the 2020 result or have said they would not have certified it.
Candidates identified by The Post as election deniers have questioned President Biden’s victory, opposed the counting of Biden’s electoral college votes, expressed support for a partisan post-election ballot review, signed onto a lawsuit seeking to overturn the 2020 result, or attended or expressed support for the ‘Stop the Steal’ rally on Jan. 6, 2021.
“These people are out there saying they are going to do this,” said Bradley Schrager, a Democratic election lawyer based in Nevada. “Which means, logically, that there’s a constituency out there that yearns for this.”
And if election-denying candidates win in November, having campaigned on the issue, Schrager said they may claim a mandate to address their backers’ grievances by whatever means necessary.
“We’re in the world of, ‘What are you prepared to do?’ ‘How far will you go?’” Schrager said. “We’re focusing on certification and things of that nature. But all the little things that run an election go through these people. So you could not just gum up an election. You could destroy it.”
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The Dems are far more likely to be dead the the GOP.
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It's been a stinking, rotting corpse since. Prove me wrong.
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It has or seems to have gotten worse since Trump by great leaps and bounds.
People on the other side have been vehemently disagreeing the Republicans for decades but it is exponentially different now as the Maga people have turned their backs on those very same traditional republicans. Case in point: the quintessential Republican and Republican family Liz Cheney.
The GOP switched this up by bailing on their core beliefs, using populism and religion to shore up a vocal group of people that will be loyal, focusing less on governing and more on culture, developing an amazing local/state level org that is proving to be very valuable.
I agree that it hasn't been the GOP since Trump was the nominee. It is a totally different party now...and unfortunately could be built to last. The biggest surprise and concern for me are the latino voters who have been supporting trump and this nonsense.
Instead of abandoning religious rule and moving towards a true small government party...they decided on a crusade against anyone that disagrees on anything. And like a terrorist org, if one goes away, someone is there to take their place. And the lack of truth and the ability to be straight-faced hypocrites has so far, given this new party staying power.
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I'm on the outside looking in with limited knowledge of american politics.. but from what I can see... folks 'on the left' have been against Reagan and the Bushes and conservatism. But traditional conservatism and fiscal conservatism is no longer what the republican party are about. Conspiracy theories and fear are now front and centre.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
GW Bush really played into the born-again Christian thing and courted evangelicals. Also at the same time became 'the guy you would like to have a beer with" as opposed to the boring policy expert who would be more likely to continue the good times we saw under Clinton.
For re-election, GW Bush and Republican SPACs really put the pedal to the metal with the Swift Boat ads. Accusing an actual veteran of being a coward, while Bush was all about courage and troops. I recall seeing the Republican convention that year (and also the McCain year), and so many old people dressed in fake military fatigues and american flags. To criticize those awful wars, you 'hated the troops'. It was concerning that they were beginning to steal Patriotism and convert it into their own, twisted, Nationalistic existence.
Sarah Palin was the next, necessary step. She normalized the idea that you can have a total moron and a loon actually run for major office, and people can get away with supporting it using phrases like 'she is a fresh breath of air'. They even degraded John McCain for this folly. There was also the undercurrent of the xenophobic views of Obama that he was from Kenya and a Muslim.
Through the Obama terms, we had smartphones and social media explode. There were so many memes and the spreading of false information... as well as the Tea Party. As far as I recall, the Tea Party started in opposition of Healthcare reform, and people were rushing in and disrupting town hall meetings. We had stupid shit start to show up, like congressional candidate rallies for George Zimmerman held at a Chick Fil A.
The Romney nomination was almost a last gasp. A fairly good effort by him and Ryan. They were vilified by the hidden camera and binders full of women, which was also silly. It would have been impossible to beat Obama at that point. At this time, it was clear that Republicans could not win national office the way things were. Evangelicals and old people were dying off, while younger, enlightened people were populating the country. City centers were beginning to skew voting and polls even in Texas, Georgia, Nevada, etc. Republicans would need to adjust their policy stances in order to win, or so we thought.
Enter Trump. He was the bounceback/revenge for all the misguided hand-wringing and shit slinging we saw having the first black president in the first full terms of smartphones and facebook. In a country that had a vast racist underbelly that most didnt give any credit too
Everyone just played into him, expecting it to lose steam and go away. They still do that. The alternative now is their party splits which would cost Republicans dearly in the near-term.
It has turned into a reality show, and Trump is the messiah to so many people... and now these people are getting elected to office as well.
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Agreed! Nicely done, MayDay!
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That said, it does kinda feel like Newt was a big turning point...maybe even Newt along with Rush. Rush was a true visionary in losing his mind about everything the liberals/Dems did and scarring the crap out of his followers. Cable news and social media brought him and those like him right into everyone's face. In the 1990s, most people just didn't listen to AM radio? Now, almost everyone is confronted with the same exact thing that Rush was doing and has to rely on their own critical thinking to not get caught in those webs.
I think Newt can be "credited" with helping the GOP take a step toward being the GQP. But if there's one person who deserves credit/blame for planting the early seeds of today's divisiveness, I think it's Rush.
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