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  • mickeyrat
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    Michigan’s high court puts abortion question on Nov. ballot
    By JOEY CAPPELLETTI, SARA BURNETT and ED WHITE
    Today

    LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Voters will determine whether to place abortion rights in the Michigan Constitution, the state Supreme Court declared Thursday, settling the issue a day before the fall ballot must be completed.

    Abortion rights would be guaranteed if the amendment passes on Nov. 8. A 1931 state law makes it a crime to perform most abortions, but the law was suspended in May and a judge this week followed up by striking it down as unconstitutional.

    Though appeals of that decision are likely, the law would be trumped if voters approve the amendment in the fall election.

    There are political implications beyond the ballot question.

    Democrats say the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade is mobilizing voters and will help Democratic candidates this fall, when top races including governor, secretary of state and attorney general are on the Michigan ballot. They point to conservative Kansas, where voters overwhelmingly defeated a measure that would have allowed the Republican-controlled Legislature to tighten restrictions or ban the procedure outright.

    In Michigan, a state elections board on Aug. 31 deadlocked along party lines on whether the abortion initiative should appear on the ballot, with Republicans voting no and Democrats voting yes. The 2-2 tie meant the measure wasn’t certified for the ballot.

    Supporters submitted more than 700,000 signatures, easily clearing the minimum threshold. But Republicans and abortion opponents argued the petitions had improper or no spacing between certain words and were confusing to voters.

    “What a sad marker of the times,” Chief Justice Bridget McCormack said in a brief statement that accompanied the Supreme Court's 5-2 order.

    McCormack said “there is no dispute” that every word was legible and in the correct order.

    Republican members of the Board of State Canvassers “would disenfranchise millions of Michiganders not because they believe the many thousands of Michiganders who signed the proposal were confused by it, but because they think they have identified a technicality that allows them to do so, a game of gotcha gone very bad,” McCormack said.

    The majority was made up of McCormack, three other Democratic justices and a Republican justice. Two Republicans dissented.

    The court directed state canvassers, who meet again Friday, to sign off on the ballot question. Tony Daunt, a Republican who had voted against the proposal, last week said that the board would obey a court order.

    Attorney General Dana Nessel, a Democrat who supports abortion rights, hailed the decision.

    “Our state Constitution provides the people with direct access to the democratic process and that access should not be limited by appointed individuals acting beyond the scope of their duty,” Nessel said.

    A group called Citizens to Support MI Women and Children said it will campaign against the amendment. Right to Life of Michigan also will be a major opponent.

    “Current events continue showing us that any nation that sees the next generation as an existential threat — rather than an existential necessity — has no future,” Right to Life said on Facebook.

    There was no immediate comment from Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who is in favor of the ballot question and is seeking reelection. Her Republican opponent, Tudor Dixon, opposes abortion rights except to save the life of the mother.

    Results of a poll published this week by The Detroit News and WDIV-TV showed abortion and women’s rights was the top issue motivating Michigan residents to vote in November, ahead of inflation and cost of living, education, and the economy and jobs. The poll also showed a majority of likely voters support a proposed constitutional amendment guaranteeing abortion rights.

    In a dissent, Justice Brian Zahra said supporters of the abortion question did not have a “clear legal right” to the ballot.

    “Words separated by spaces cease being words or become new words when the spaces between them are removed,” Zahra said.

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    Burnett reported from Chicago and White reported from Detroit.

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    Joey Cappelletti is a corps member for the Associated Press/Report for America Statehouse News Initiative. Report for America is a nonprofit national service program that places journalists in local newsrooms to report on undercovered issues.


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    mickeyrat said:



     
    Michigan’s high court puts abortion question on Nov. ballot
    By JOEY CAPPELLETTI, SARA BURNETT and ED WHITE
    Today

    LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Voters will determine whether to place abortion rights in the Michigan Constitution, the state Supreme Court declared Thursday, settling the issue a day before the fall ballot must be completed.

    Abortion rights would be guaranteed if the amendment passes on Nov. 8. A 1931 state law makes it a crime to perform most abortions, but the law was suspended in May and a judge this week followed up by striking it down as unconstitutional.

    Though appeals of that decision are likely, the law would be trumped if voters approve the amendment in the fall election.

    There are political implications beyond the ballot question.

    Democrats say the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade is mobilizing voters and will help Democratic candidates this fall, when top races including governor, secretary of state and attorney general are on the Michigan ballot. They point to conservative Kansas, where voters overwhelmingly defeated a measure that would have allowed the Republican-controlled Legislature to tighten restrictions or ban the procedure outright.

    In Michigan, a state elections board on Aug. 31 deadlocked along party lines on whether the abortion initiative should appear on the ballot, with Republicans voting no and Democrats voting yes. The 2-2 tie meant the measure wasn’t certified for the ballot.

    Supporters submitted more than 700,000 signatures, easily clearing the minimum threshold. But Republicans and abortion opponents argued the petitions had improper or no spacing between certain words and were confusing to voters.

    “What a sad marker of the times,” Chief Justice Bridget McCormack said in a brief statement that accompanied the Supreme Court's 5-2 order.

    McCormack said “there is no dispute” that every word was legible and in the correct order.

    Republican members of the Board of State Canvassers “would disenfranchise millions of Michiganders not because they believe the many thousands of Michiganders who signed the proposal were confused by it, but because they think they have identified a technicality that allows them to do so, a game of gotcha gone very bad,” McCormack said.

    The majority was made up of McCormack, three other Democratic justices and a Republican justice. Two Republicans dissented.

    The court directed state canvassers, who meet again Friday, to sign off on the ballot question. Tony Daunt, a Republican who had voted against the proposal, last week said that the board would obey a court order.

    Attorney General Dana Nessel, a Democrat who supports abortion rights, hailed the decision.

    “Our state Constitution provides the people with direct access to the democratic process and that access should not be limited by appointed individuals acting beyond the scope of their duty,” Nessel said.

    A group called Citizens to Support MI Women and Children said it will campaign against the amendment. Right to Life of Michigan also will be a major opponent.

    “Current events continue showing us that any nation that sees the next generation as an existential threat — rather than an existential necessity — has no future,” Right to Life said on Facebook.

    There was no immediate comment from Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who is in favor of the ballot question and is seeking reelection. Her Republican opponent, Tudor Dixon, opposes abortion rights except to save the life of the mother.

    Results of a poll published this week by The Detroit News and WDIV-TV showed abortion and women’s rights was the top issue motivating Michigan residents to vote in November, ahead of inflation and cost of living, education, and the economy and jobs. The poll also showed a majority of likely voters support a proposed constitutional amendment guaranteeing abortion rights.

    In a dissent, Justice Brian Zahra said supporters of the abortion question did not have a “clear legal right” to the ballot.

    “Words separated by spaces cease being words or become new words when the spaces between them are removed,” Zahra said.

    ___

    Burnett reported from Chicago and White reported from Detroit.

    ___

    Joey Cappelletti is a corps member for the Associated Press/Report for America Statehouse News Initiative. Report for America is a nonprofit national service program that places journalists in local newsrooms to report on undercovered issues.


    Tudor Dixon has zero chance of beating Whitmer with abortion on the ballot.  It also damages GOP House chances in the state. 
  • The Juggler
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    Leave it up to the states, they said. Suuuuuure, buddy. 



    https://www.axios.com/2022/09/13/lindsey-graham-national-abortion-restrictions-bill

    Lindsey Graham proposes new national abortion restrictions bill

    Sen. Lindsey Graham during a May hearing in Washington, D.C. Photo: Eric Lee/Bloomberg via Getty Images

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) introduced a bill on Tuesday that would ban abortion nationally after 15 weeks.

    Driving the news: "We will introduce legislation ... to get America in a position at the federal level I think is fairly consistent with the rest of the world," Graham said Tuesday in announcing the legislation.

    • The legislation includes exceptions for situations involving rape, incest or risks to the life and physical health of the mother.
    • "If we take back the House and Senate, I can assure you we'll have a vote" on the bill, Graham added.

    The big picture: Graham has previously introduced bills that sought to ban abortions nationally from 20 weeks.

    • Graham's plan comes less than two months out from the midterm elections, with abortion expected to be an important issue for voters following the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
    • Republican candidates across the U.S. have moved to disappear hardline anti-abortion stances they took during their primaries, particularly in battleground states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Colorado, Arizona and North Carolina.

    The other side: "Proposals like the one today send a clear message from MAGA Republicans to women across the country: Your body, our choice," Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday.

    • "Rather than expanding women's rights, MAGA Republicans would curtail them. Rather than giving individuals the freedom to make their own health care choices, they hand that power over to radical politicians," Schumer said.
    • White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement that Graham's bill "is wildly out of step with what Americans believe."
    • "President Biden and Congressional Democrats are committed to restoring the protections of Roe v. Wade in the face of continued radical steps by elected Republicans to put personal health care decisions in the hands of politicians instead of women and their doctors, threatening women's health and lives," she added.

    Thought bubble, via Axios' Andrew Solender: Graham's bill is designed to present Republicans as being more mainstream on abortion by pushing a partial ban over either a full ban or what they characterize as Democrats' "abortion on-demand" position.

    Go deeper: Senate Republicans share abortion talking points

    Editor's note: This article has been updated with new details throughout.


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  • The Juggler
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    Dems must be happy about this though. 
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  • mrussel1
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    edited September 2022
    Haha, leave it to the states.  That is funny.  I posted this on the other page, I guess more relevant here.

    This is an interesting play. I'm not sure Schumer will let this come to a vote.  Many Americans are okay with 15 weeks.  Most are against abortion after 20 or so.  So they are trying to turn this into a reasonableness argument, saying that Democrats want abortion for viable babies.  Birth abortion or whatever.  If I'm Schumer, I'm pretty happy just letting the Republicans twist in the wind on abortion through election day.  

    It also makes it crystal clear that GOP sees this as a clear danger to their electoral prospects and are doing what they can to blunt the issue.  It would be political malpractice to let this come up for a vote.  
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  • The Juggler
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    edited September 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    Haha, leave it to the states.  That is funny.  I posted this on the other page, I guess more relevant here.

    This is an interesting play. I'm not sure Schumer will let this come to a vote.  Many Americans are okay with 15 weeks.  Most are against abortion after 20 or so.  So they are trying to turn this into a reasonableness argument, saying that Democrats want abortion for viable babies.  Birth abortion or whatever.  If I'm Schumer, I'm pretty happy just letting the Republicans twist in the wind on abortion through election day.  

    It also makes it crystal clear that GOP sees this as a clear danger to their electoral prospects and are doing what they can to blunt the issue.  It would be political malpractice to let this come up for a vote.  
    I don't know. Even if most are okay with 15 weeks, if the Dems were smart they would just be talking nonstop about a nationwide ban/nationwide ban/nationwide ban----just keep drilling that into everyone's heads. The politics are on their side here. It's kind of like defund the police in reverse.
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  • mrussel1
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    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Haha, leave it to the states.  That is funny.  I posted this on the other page, I guess more relevant here.

    This is an interesting play. I'm not sure Schumer will let this come to a vote.  Many Americans are okay with 15 weeks.  Most are against abortion after 20 or so.  So they are trying to turn this into a reasonableness argument, saying that Democrats want abortion for viable babies.  Birth abortion or whatever.  If I'm Schumer, I'm pretty happy just letting the Republicans twist in the wind on abortion through election day.  

    It also makes it crystal clear that GOP sees this as a clear danger to their electoral prospects and are doing what they can to blunt the issue.  It would be political malpractice to let this come up for a vote.  
    I don't know. Even if most are okay with 15 weeks, if the Dems were smart they would just be talking nonstop about a nationwide ban/nationwide ban/nationwide ban----just keep drilling that into everyone's heads. The politics are on their side here. It's kind of like defund the police in reverse.
    I agree they should be talking about it.  But do you think they should let this come up to a vote?  I think that would be a mistake and giving the R's an opportunity to blunt the impact by saying 15 weeks is reasonable (even though the vote will fail).  It's a trap.  An obvious one, but a trap. 
  • OnWis97
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    The Juggler said:
    Dems must be happy about this though. 
    Maybe. I think the entire purpose of this with the BS title of "late term" is so GOP candidates can see "my opponent supports late-term abortions!" There's no way it works unless the media doesn't actually pick up on this correctly. Oh. Crap.
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  • The Juggler
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    Yeah I don' think they should put it up for a vote..
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  • PJ_Soul
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    West Virginia just passed a near-total ban on abortion.
    Makes me so angry I can't articulate it. I don't know why people aren't rioting in the streets.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    The Juggler said:
    Leave it up to the states, they said. Suuuuuure, buddy. 



    https://www.axios.com/2022/09/13/lindsey-graham-national-abortion-restrictions-bill

    Lindsey Graham proposes new national abortion restrictions bill

    Sen. Lindsey Graham during a May hearing in Washington, D.C. Photo: Eric Lee/Bloomberg via Getty Images

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) introduced a bill on Tuesday that would ban abortion nationally after 15 weeks.

    Driving the news: "We will introduce legislation ... to get America in a position at the federal level I think is fairly consistent with the rest of the world," Graham said Tuesday in announcing the legislation.

    • The legislation includes exceptions for situations involving rape, incest or risks to the life and physical health of the mother.
    • "If we take back the House and Senate, I can assure you we'll have a vote" on the bill, Graham added.

    The big picture: Graham has previously introduced bills that sought to ban abortions nationally from 20 weeks.

    • Graham's plan comes less than two months out from the midterm elections, with abortion expected to be an important issue for voters following the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
    • Republican candidates across the U.S. have moved to disappear hardline anti-abortion stances they took during their primaries, particularly in battleground states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Colorado, Arizona and North Carolina.

    The other side: "Proposals like the one today send a clear message from MAGA Republicans to women across the country: Your body, our choice," Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday.

    • "Rather than expanding women's rights, MAGA Republicans would curtail them. Rather than giving individuals the freedom to make their own health care choices, they hand that power over to radical politicians," Schumer said.
    • White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement that Graham's bill "is wildly out of step with what Americans believe."
    • "President Biden and Congressional Democrats are committed to restoring the protections of Roe v. Wade in the face of continued radical steps by elected Republicans to put personal health care decisions in the hands of politicians instead of women and their doctors, threatening women's health and lives," she added.

    Thought bubble, via Axios' Andrew Solender: Graham's bill is designed to present Republicans as being more mainstream on abortion by pushing a partial ban over either a full ban or what they characterize as Democrats' "abortion on-demand" position.

    Go deeper: Senate Republicans share abortion talking points

    Editor's note: This article has been updated with new details throughout.





    Did you wake up this morning with the expectation you and Mitch would be on the same exact page regarding abortion?



    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday made clear that Senate Republicans are not eager to debate Sen. Lindsey Graham’s (R-S.C.) proposal to ban abortions nationwide after 15 weeks of pregnancy, telling reporters that most GOP senators want to leave the issue to states.  

    McConnell also said Graham’s proposal is the South Carolina senator’s own initiative and not something being pushed at the leadership level.  


  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,699
    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Leave it up to the states, they said. Suuuuuure, buddy. 



    https://www.axios.com/2022/09/13/lindsey-graham-national-abortion-restrictions-bill

    Lindsey Graham proposes new national abortion restrictions bill

    Sen. Lindsey Graham during a May hearing in Washington, D.C. Photo: Eric Lee/Bloomberg via Getty Images

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) introduced a bill on Tuesday that would ban abortion nationally after 15 weeks.

    Driving the news: "We will introduce legislation ... to get America in a position at the federal level I think is fairly consistent with the rest of the world," Graham said Tuesday in announcing the legislation.

    • The legislation includes exceptions for situations involving rape, incest or risks to the life and physical health of the mother.
    • "If we take back the House and Senate, I can assure you we'll have a vote" on the bill, Graham added.

    The big picture: Graham has previously introduced bills that sought to ban abortions nationally from 20 weeks.

    • Graham's plan comes less than two months out from the midterm elections, with abortion expected to be an important issue for voters following the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
    • Republican candidates across the U.S. have moved to disappear hardline anti-abortion stances they took during their primaries, particularly in battleground states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Colorado, Arizona and North Carolina.

    The other side: "Proposals like the one today send a clear message from MAGA Republicans to women across the country: Your body, our choice," Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday.

    • "Rather than expanding women's rights, MAGA Republicans would curtail them. Rather than giving individuals the freedom to make their own health care choices, they hand that power over to radical politicians," Schumer said.
    • White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement that Graham's bill "is wildly out of step with what Americans believe."
    • "President Biden and Congressional Democrats are committed to restoring the protections of Roe v. Wade in the face of continued radical steps by elected Republicans to put personal health care decisions in the hands of politicians instead of women and their doctors, threatening women's health and lives," she added.

    Thought bubble, via Axios' Andrew Solender: Graham's bill is designed to present Republicans as being more mainstream on abortion by pushing a partial ban over either a full ban or what they characterize as Democrats' "abortion on-demand" position.

    Go deeper: Senate Republicans share abortion talking points

    Editor's note: This article has been updated with new details throughout.





    Did you wake up this morning with the expectation you and Mitch would be on the same exact page regarding abortion?



    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday made clear that Senate Republicans are not eager to debate Sen. Lindsey Graham’s (R-S.C.) proposal to ban abortions nationwide after 15 weeks of pregnancy, telling reporters that most GOP senators want to leave the issue to states.  

    McConnell also said Graham’s proposal is the South Carolina senator’s own initiative and not something being pushed at the leadership level.  



    which is to say Graham isnt Leadership........
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  • The Juggler
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    Chuck Schumer rejected resolutions to defund the police a couple years ago yet the democrats still got hammered over it. 
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  • mrussel1
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    I didn't realize that Lindsay was saying Republicans would vote on 15 week ban IF they won the senate.  So that's an interesting twist and not sure why he went out on this limb. It doesn't make political sense that I can see, at least for the party at large.  Maybe it helps him in some way.  
  • OnWis97
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    mrussel1 said:
    I didn't realize that Lindsay was saying Republicans would vote on 15 week ban IF they won the senate.  So that's an interesting twist and not sure why he went out on this limb. It doesn't make political sense that I can see, at least for the party at large.  Maybe it helps him in some way.  
    That almost seems dumber than if he said "now."

    The only thing I can think of (to repeat myself) is that the dishonest title "late term" gives candidates the opportunity to say "my opponent supports late-term abortion."  

    I suppose another possibility is getting every last member of the pro-life base to the polls or even fired up enough to participate in bigger ways. Either way, I don't see it working; the hard-core forced-birthers are already pretty active and the middle-of-the-roaders tend to be pro choice.
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  • Cropduster-80
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    mrussel1 said:
    I didn't realize that Lindsay was saying Republicans would vote on 15 week ban IF they won the senate.  So that's an interesting twist and not sure why he went out on this limb. It doesn't make political sense that I can see, at least for the party at large.  Maybe it helps him in some way.  
    They will vote on it no question. They are backpedaling a bit now because of the midterms certainly.  The uncertainty helps though.  In races where abortion restrictions are an issue it plays well.  In races where abortion restrictions don’t play well there is enough uncertainty that people are voting with some sort of ambiguity of what will happen and those republicans can say what they want on the issue.  It’s playing both sides at once. Both pro choice and pro life republicans/ independents  hear what they want to hear 

    At a minimum the democrats need to do an education campaign and define “weeks pregnant “ anyway 

    a 15 week ban is an 11 week ban if pregnancy is defined as the date of your last period. It starts at 4 weeks.  When we can’t even get the timescales right it makes it seem like you are more pregnant than you are 
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    Judge blocks Indiana abortion ban week after it took effect
    By TOM DAVIES
    Today

    INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — An Indiana judge on Thursday blocked the state’s abortion ban from being enforced, putting the new law on hold as abortion clinic operators argue that it violates the state constitution.

    Owen County Judge Kelsey Hanlon issued a preliminary injunction against the ban that took effect one week ago. The injunction was sought by abortion clinic operators who argued in a lawsuit that the state constitution protects access to the medical procedure.

    The ban was approved by the state’s Republican-dominated Legislature on Aug. 5 and signed by GOP Gov. Eric Holcomb. That made Indiana the first state to enact tighter abortion restrictions since the U.S. Supreme Court eliminated federal abortion protections by overturning Roe v. Wade in June.

    The judge wrote “there is reasonable likelihood that this significant restriction of personal autonomy offends the liberty guarantees of the Indiana Constitution” and that the clinics will prevail in the lawsuit. The order prevents the state from enforcing the ban pending a trial on the merits of the lawsuit.

    Republican state Attorney General Todd Rokita said in a statement: “We plan to appeal and continue to make the case for life in Indiana.”

    Indiana’s ban followed the political firestorm over a 10-year-old rape victim who traveled to the state from neighboring Ohio to end her pregnancy. The case gained wide attention when an Indianapolis doctor said the child came to Indiana because of Ohio’s “fetal heartbeat” ban.

    An Ohio judge has temporarily blocked that state law, indicating he will allow abortions to continue up to 20 weeks’ gestation until after a court hearing scheduled for Oct. 7.

    With Indiana now on hold, bans on abortion at any point in pregnancy are in place in 12 Republican-led states. In another state, Wisconsin, clinics have stopped providing abortions amid litigation over whether an 1849 ban is in effect. Georgia bans abortions once fetal cardiac activity can be detected and Florida and Utah have bans that kick in after 15 and 18 weeks gestation, respectively.

    The Indiana ban, which includes limited exceptions, replaced state laws that generally prohibited abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy and tightly restricted them after the 13th week.

    The American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana, which is representing the abortion clinics, filed the lawsuit Aug. 31 and argued the ban would “prohibit the overwhelming majority of abortions in Indiana and, as such, will have a devastating and irreparable impact on the plaintiffs and, more importantly, their patients and clients.”

    Ken Falk, the ACLU of Indiana’s legal director, pointed to the state constitution’s declaration of rights including “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” in arguing before the judge on Monday that it included a right to privacy and to make decisions on whether to have children.

    The state attorney general’s office said the court should uphold the ban, calling arguments against it based on a “novel, unwritten, historically unsupported right to abortion” in the state constitution.

    “The constitutional text nowhere mentions abortion, and Indiana has prohibited or heavily regulated abortion by statute since 1835 — before, during, and after the time when the 1851 Indiana Constitution was drafted, debated, and ratified,” the office said in a court filing.

    The question of whether the Indiana Constitution protects abortion rights is undecided.

    A state appeals court decision in 2004 said privacy was a core value under the state constitution that extended to all residents, including women seeking an abortion. But the Indiana Supreme Court later set aside that ruling without addressing whether the state constitution included such a right.

    Hanlon, a Republican who was first elected in 2014 as a judge in the rural southern Indiana county, wrote that Indiana's constitution “is more explicit in its affirmation of individual rights and its limitation of legislative power to intrude into personal affairs” than the U.S. Constitution.

    “There is a reasonable likelihood that decisions about family planning, including decisions about whether to carry pregnancy to term,” are protected by the state constitution, Hanlon wrote.

    Planned Parenthood and other abortion clinic operators involved in the lawsuit said in a statement that they were “grateful that the court granted much needed relief for patients, clients, and providers but this fight is far from over.”

    “Indiana lawmakers have made it abundantly clear that this harm, this cruelty, is exactly the reality they had in mind when they passed (the abortion ban,)” the statement said.

    The Indiana abortion ban includes exceptions allowing abortions in cases of rape and incest, before 10 weeks post-fertilization; to protect the life and physical health of the mother; and if a fetus is diagnosed with a lethal anomaly.

    The new law also prohibited abortion clinics from providing any abortion care, leaving such services solely to hospitals or outpatient surgical centers owned by hospitals.


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  • Lerxst1992
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    This deserves its own new topic "why america is screwed" but Roe topic is as good a place as any.

    In a poll of midterm voters, Roe has dropped to the 7th most important issue, while crime has skyrocketed to 2nd.

    Crime is important,  but how many police departments does Congress oversee and fund directly? The NYPD? The LAPD?

    Republicans are the masters of taking a locally administered issue like crime, and turn it into almost the most important national issue to voters for midterms, just as soon as their ads hit the airwaves in Sept.

    This is why they control the Court, and why Dobbs will not be overturned anytime soon. Even on AMT, Roe was on page 2 today.



    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_100322/


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,577
    Lerxst1992 said:
    This deserves its own new topic "why america is screwed" but Roe topic is as good a place as any.

    In a poll of midterm voters, Roe has dropped to the 7th most important issue, while crime has skyrocketed to 2nd.

    Crime is important,  but how many police departments does Congress oversee and fund directly? The NYPD? The LAPD?

    Republicans are the masters of taking a locally administered issue like crime, and turn it into almost the most important national issue to voters for midterms, just as soon as their ads hit the airwaves in Sept.

    This is why they control the Court, and why Dobbs will not be overturned anytime soon. Even on AMT, Roe was on page 2 today.



    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_100322/


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