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i really like protools except for one thing...

exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
edited September 2004 in Musicians and Gearheads
so far anyway....

it's great to work with. i haven't gotten very in-depth though but one thing i don't like is the fact that you can only hear the effect of plug-ins on a track on playback, not during recording. this kinda sucks, especially when some of the effects would have an impact on how you play/sing etc.

anyone know a way around this? i haven't been able to find anything in the manuals yet.
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by exhausted
    so far anyway....

    it's great to work with. i haven't gotten very in-depth though but one thing i don't like is the fact that you can only hear the effect of plug-ins on a track on playback, not during recording. this kinda sucks, especially when some of the effects would have an impact on how you play/sing etc.

    anyone know a way around this? i haven't been able to find anything in the manuals yet.

    I'll ask my buddy at O&O, they use protools and I know this can't be right.
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  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    thanks. i still can't find a way around it. the manuals say directly that RTAS plug-ins only effect on playback but there really should be another way.
  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by exhausted
    thanks. i still can't find a way around it. the manuals say directly that RTAS plug-ins only effect on playback but there really should be another way.

    There has to be another way, that make no sense at all.
    I think there is a protools message board as well.

    this site might help:
    http://www.natural-studio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1092884684

    or this:
    http://www.sweetwater.com/forum/
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  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    it's probably a matter of signal routing as i think about it more. i'll dig through those links. thanks.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    found it!!!!!

    1) Create an Aux. Input Track and instantiate a plug-in on it. ( File Menu > New Track)
    2) Set the input of aux. input track to Mic/Line 1 for your vocal mic, or whatever input you are using on the 001.
    3) Select the output of the aux. input track to bus one, or available bus.
    4) Create an Audio Track. ( File Menu > New Track)
    5) Select the input of the audio track to bus 1, or available bus.
    6) Output of the audio track to default (Analog 1 & 2, S/PDIF L & R).
    7) Proceed with recording to the audio track.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Posts: 6,395
    I was somewhat frustrated with this feature, as well, but I tend to record dry tracks anyways. The only difference it would make to me is trying different things to hear how they would sound with effects. It sounds like you've figured out the routing to do it that way... it's a bit of a routing headache, but it works. And you'll get used to it as you do it a half-dozen times.

    The biggest complaint I have about ProTools and their effects is how much processing it takes to do time-based effects (reverb, delay, etc). If you get the effects the way you want them, you can just record the effected track into a new track in the session, but that means you can't manipulate them anymore. You can save the dry track and re-manipulate it later, but it's not as easy as just adjusting the room size on a reverb to make it more or less boomy, you would have to re-build your entire effects list (compression, EQ, reverb, harmonizer, auto-tune, etc).

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  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    i tried it and it works but you end up with the split-second latency between the dry and effected signals so it's of no value really. oh well. it's not a big deal. recording dry is better practice overall anyway.

    so far i like the mbox. though i've only had a couple hours to play and unfortunately, i am gone again for work until next week. i'm happy with the purchase though.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by exhausted
    i tried it and it works but you end up with the split-second latency between the dry and effected signals so it's of no value really. oh well. it's not a big deal. recording dry is better practice overall anyway.

    so far i like the mbox. though i've only had a couple hours to play and unfortunately, i am gone again for work until next week. i'm happy with the purchase though.



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  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
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