bought the computer

exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
edited July 2004 in Musicians and Gearheads
three cheers for supportive wives.

dell has a bunch of free upgrades and shit so.....

i ordered a dell 4600 2.8GHz P4 with 1gigRAM and a 160gig drive. 17" monitor and wireless keyboard and mouse. if they work well, i'll use them, otherwise they'll go on the present computer.

it should be here sometime within the next month which is fine since i'll be out of town anyway.

now i just have to sell some pedals etc. in order to buy the software and interface of my choice. the steinberg MI4/cubasis SL is still winning. the fact that it has preamps in the interface box means i can dump my bluetube preamp as well. i'm keeping the rack compressor though.

this should be a really good system.

and once i'm used to the software and have suitably moved over all my work, i'll dump the 788. despite my emotional attachment. i made 3 cds on that thing.

so, if anyone wants some of this come fall, keep it in mind:

-presonus bluetube preamp.
-tascam 788 (w/ 10gig drive)
-harman-kardon CDR20 dual deck cd-r audio burner.
-pedals that will go up include:
boss GE-7 (japanese)
DOD vibrothang
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  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Posts: 6,395
    DigiDesign MBox has FOCUSRITE mic pre's. FOCUSRITE.

    The computer sounds pretty sweet... especially the gig of RAM. You'll need it...

    I'd be interested in the Tascam if I wasn't going to do the same thing pretty soon.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    i just revisited the specs on both. i think you're right about the MBOX. the only advantage on the MI4 is a really high sample rate when recording a single channel (96kHz).

    am i really going to notice that? probably not i suppose.

    i thought the MI4 had more I/O options too but apparently they aren't that different. steinberg's got MIDI though. i don't use MIDI though but i might since i can use my korg as a controller and play VST instruments.

    i'm going to check out both software packages in person though because that will be the deciding factor i guess.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Posts: 6,395
    I'm not trying to persuade you one way or the other, I just wanted to point that out... Focusrite preamps are a pretty big plus, though.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    i trust your input though because you've got the background in this.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by exhausted
    three cheers for supportive wives.

    dell has a bunch of free upgrades and shit so.....

    i ordered a dell 4600 2.8GHz P4 with 1gigRAM and a 160gig drive. 17" monitor and wireless keyboard and mouse. if they work well, i'll use them, otherwise they'll go on the present computer.

    it should be here sometime within the next month which is fine since i'll be out of town anyway.

    now i just have to sell some pedals etc. in order to buy the software and interface of my choice. the steinberg MI4/cubasis SL is still winning. the fact that it has preamps in the interface box means i can dump my bluetube preamp as well. i'm keeping the rack compressor though.

    this should be a really good system.

    and once i'm used to the software and have suitably moved over all my work, i'll dump the 788. despite my emotional attachment. i made 3 cds on that thing.

    so, if anyone wants some of this come fall, keep it in mind:

    -presonus bluetube preamp.
    -tascam 788 (w/ 10gig drive)
    -harman-kardon CDR20 dual deck cd-r audio burner.
    -pedals that will go up include:
    boss GE-7 (japanese)
    DOD vibrothang



    Hey man I'm buying almost exactly the same computer. My roommate had the 4600 you should be very happy with it and the 1 gig of memory.

    I'm probably going to get just 512 for now. Hopefully this will get me off my ass so I can share some with you guys.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    the only reason i was able to go with a gig right away was the free upgrades. otherwise, i'd be at 512 too.

    this lets me dive right into the recording.

    once i get back from my work assignment, i'm pretty much just going to whole up for a year and make a cd out of the best of the songs i've written thus far in my life. i'll pretty much just rerecord everything. it'll probably take me a while to get fully comfortable with the software too.

    i plan on getting fruity loops for drum tracks/looping and renting a bass from time to time to round things out.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by exhausted
    the only reason i was able to go with a gig right away was the free upgrades. otherwise, i'd be at 512 too.

    this lets me dive right into the recording.

    once i get back from my work assignment, i'm pretty much just going to whole up for a year and make a cd out of the best of the songs i've written thus far in my life. i'll pretty much just rerecord everything. it'll probably take me a while to get fully comfortable with the software too.

    i plan on getting fruity loops for drum tracks/looping and renting a bass from time to time to round things out.



    just for fun check out the rogue violin bass from musicians friend.

    I know they don't ship to canada, but it's damn cool on sale for $199 Hollowbody bass is hollobody bass. I might get one.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    those are kinda funky.

    i could do bass within fruity loops but i am hestitant. that's a little too mechanical for me.

    when i had a bass, i played it so little it's not worth the investment. renting is so cheap. i'll just rent a nice j-bass and a bass pod and go.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    just spent a while talking to the folks at the music store and told them what i had for hardware etc.

    i'm going with the mbox factory with all the joemeek plug-ins and shit. it wasn't that much more for some fun extra toys including a moogerfooger delay model.
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    I know this isn't fair, but I thought you were still looking around. Have you seen this. Like the mbox.


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  • kigcatkigcat Posts: 298
    just watch out for fan noise when recording on pcs and noisy harddrives. also keep as many other processes off as you can when running vsti`s as they sure will eat ram but with the system your getting i doubt that`ll be a problem lucky git haha.....
    I'm not saying stupidity should be a capital offence, but what say we take the safety labels off everything and let nature run it's course?
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    thanks pure. i looked at the omega but rejected it based on the software limitations.

    the extra I/O on the interface is nice though. that's the biggest thing i'm going to miss. right now i have 6 ins so i rarely have to juggle cable.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Posts: 6,395
    Those additional plugins will be priceless...

    The big problem with RAM is that Windows XP uses so much just by itself.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    i'll probably waste a week playing with cosmonaut voice.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by exhausted
    i'll probably waste a week playing with cosmonaut voice.

    I love playing with harmonizors....
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    i'm starting to worry about the fact that i only have one drive to work with. i'm going to try to partition it and dedicate one segment to the sessions but i don't know if it's going to fly all that well. i'll just have to see.

    if it doesn't work out, i'll be stuck getting a firewire drive.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by exhausted
    if it doesn't work out, i'll be stuck getting a firewire drive.

    You should be able to partition that drive, it sure as hell is big enough. I'd put a 20GB partition in for the OS and basic computer operation, and then a 140GB partition for music. Of course, you could get a 20 or 40 GB drive to use as your OS drive, and then use the entire 160GB drive for music. A 20 or 40 GB internal drive would be cheaper than an external firewire drive.

    Then again, a firewire drive is good to have around, and would make for great portability.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    i'll see how it runs on a partitioned drive first but i will probably just stuff another hard drive into it. the prices on the firewire drives are still too high. i did some searching. another 80 or 120 gig internal doesn't cost much though.
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