Not holding much hope for an Australian tour for Feb March. Time is getting on and there is literally zero rumour / speculation. I’m thinking at best it could be Oct Nov 23.
1996: Augusta
1998: Montreal, Mansfield I&II
2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II 2017: New York 2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
1996: Augusta
1998: Montreal, Mansfield I&II
2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II 2017: New York 2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
The 2023 tour will be a tour for the next album as the gigaton era and the 25 song sets era concludes.
Bold 2023 rumor we can hope is true!
Gigaton era being over makes me sad. I feel like they barely toured it, and they were over most of the songs by the time they got to play them live. It’s a great album. I feel like we missed out on what would have been a great, energized album tour in 2020.
100% agreed. To each their own and all, but I'm kind of amazed how many folks on here shit talk Gigaton. It's a really solid record, especially for a band 30 years in.
Yeah, I wish I had gotten to hear more of it. Only four songs in two shows - Alright, Who Ever Said, DOTC twice and 7 O'clock twice. Don't really have a feel for any of these songs live yet.
The songs that I thought would sound great live (Who Ever Said, Never Destination and SBWM) have disappointed me in listening to all the bootlegs. Ed has really struggled with the lyrics which throws the songs off too. I like the album but not much translates to the live stage well. Retrograde sounds good live, but that’s about it. I knew DOTC would be tough,
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PJ will probably do stadiums. There's too much money to be made for such little work. At this point in their career the band is a massive capitalist venture and the guys are old.
Still love them more than just about any other band, but call it what it is.
Painful to say but will they fill stadiums outside of their 2 hometowns and the 3 major markets in the northeast, without excessive traveling by fan club members? Maybe?
If the goal is to draw fans from around the US to travel to fill a handful of stadiums, maybe they should be considering the environmental impact of all that travel, and wait to tour the US when they can do a proper tour that fairly hits all the major markets in 2 or 3 legs.
At least one more "old fashioned" full US Tour please before calling it quits. Its been ten years. If they need to charge a little more to make the economics work so be it, worth every dollar to see them at a 360 arena show.
I wouldn't think Coldplay could fill a stadium, but they did. No doubt PJ could do the same.
Hopefully Indianapolis and Milwaukee, I’m over Wrigley Field shows
2000 - Chicago, IL 2003 - Champaign, IL 2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza 2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2010 - St. Louis, MO 2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT 2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK 2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI) 2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)
2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ?? 2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV 2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2025 - Pittsburgh, PA1 & Pittsburgh PA2
2012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA
2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)
2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows) 2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)
2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI
2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL 2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
RIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris Cornell
RIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)
Ugh the lack of any rumors is rough. We thinking nothing (no new shows no announcements) until the new year?
If there playing South America in March then that announcement would be October-November?
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^ I remember thinking the same thing. Coldplay is gonna sell out Gillette Stadium? No way. Then they did…
I agree, its surprising, but coldplays market is much different than this one. They attract a younger pop oriented crowd who'd jump at the chance to sit in the cumulus stratosphere for 50 bucks. I'm not sure this audience is on board with that
I never thought I'd ever say this, but the Cali dates were eye opening. It's possible the promoter took a bit of a hit (yea!). After that, I wouldn't front $ for unproven markets for a stadium advance, but probably LN takes a flier on that risk
The band should take some well deserved time off and when ready, do it right. Not these cheesy mini US tours of the past ten years.
^ I remember thinking the same thing. Coldplay is gonna sell out Gillette Stadium? No way. Then they did…
I agree, its surprising, but coldplays market is much different than this one. They attract a younger pop oriented crowd who'd jump at the chance to sit in the cumulus stratosphere for 50 bucks. I'm not sure this audience is on board with that
I never thought I'd ever say this, but the Cali dates were eye opening. It's possible the promoter took a bit of a hit (yea!). After that, I wouldn't front $ for unproven markets for a stadium advance, but probably LN takes a flier on that risk
The band should take some well deserved time off and when ready, do it right. Not these cheesy mini US tours of the past ten years.
So they really do it for the money? They could easily sell out 20k arenas in a southern tour of Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio but choose to play to half empty arenas in California. They need to start serving their customer market and not there political interests. Not everyone in the south is a stereotypical crazy redneck republican. Most of the East and West coasts moved down here during the pandemic anyway.
^ I remember thinking the same thing. Coldplay is gonna sell out Gillette Stadium? No way. Then they did…
I agree, its surprising, but coldplays market is much different than this one. They attract a younger pop oriented crowd who'd jump at the chance to sit in the cumulus stratosphere for 50 bucks. I'm not sure this audience is on board with that
I never thought I'd ever say this, but the Cali dates were eye opening. It's possible the promoter took a bit of a hit (yea!). After that, I wouldn't front $ for unproven markets for a stadium advance, but probably LN takes a flier on that risk
The band should take some well deserved time off and when ready, do it right. Not these cheesy mini US tours of the past ten years.
So they really do it for the money? They could easily sell out 20k arenas in a southern tour of Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio but choose to play to half empty arenas in California. They need to start serving their customer market and not there political interests. Not everyone in the south is a stereotypical crazy redneck republican. Most of the East and West coasts moved down here during the pandemic anyway.
Definitely agree itd be best if they hit all the major league markets when they are ready. Keep in mind they played more traditional red markets this year than the blue northeast, so I don't see why they'd be averse to any regions
And if economics is the issue, then PLEASE charge me more money to play arenas. Arenas effing rock like nothing else w this band. We all know it.
And I'd rather pay you guys than CITGO and Marriott.
PJ will probably do stadiums. There's too much money to be made for such little work. At this point in their career the band is a massive capitalist venture and the guys are old.
Still love them more than just about any other band, but call it what it is.
Painful to say but will they fill stadiums outside of their 2 hometowns and the 3 major markets in the northeast, without excessive traveling by fan club members? Maybe?
If the goal is to draw fans from around the US to travel to fill a handful of stadiums, maybe they should be considering the environmental impact of all that travel, and wait to tour the US when they can do a proper tour that fairly hits all the major markets in 2 or 3 legs.
At least one more "old fashioned" full US Tour please before calling it quits. Its been ten years. If they need to charge a little more to make the economics work so be it, worth every dollar to see them at a 360 arena show.
I wouldn't think Coldplay could fill a stadium, but they did. No doubt PJ could do the same.
Coldplay just sold out Wembley for 6 straight nights. They suck, but they sell a lot of tickets while doing it.
The 2023 tour will be a tour for the next album as the gigaton era and the 25 song sets era concludes.
Bold 2023 rumor we can hope is true!
Gigaton era being over makes me sad. I feel like they barely toured it, and they were over most of the songs by the time they got to play them live. It’s a great album. I feel like we missed out on what would have been a great, energized album tour in 2020.
100% agreed. To each their own and all, but I'm kind of amazed how many folks on here shit talk Gigaton. It's a really solid record, especially for a band 30 years in.
Yeah, I wish I had gotten to hear more of it. Only four songs in two shows - Alright, Who Ever Said, DOTC twice and 7 O'clock twice. Don't really have a feel for any of these songs live yet.
The songs that I thought would sound great live (Who Ever Said, Never Destination and SBWM) have disappointed me in listening to all the bootlegs. Ed has really struggled with the lyrics which throws the songs off too. I like the album but not much translates to the live stage well. Retrograde sounds good live, but that’s about it. I knew DOTC would be tough,
As someone who went to "several" shows on this tour, Who Ever Said is now my piss and a beer song. It is really not good live. Quick Escape is a keeper. They seem to have dropped Take The Long Road all together.
The 2023 tour will be a tour for the next album as the gigaton era and the 25 song sets era concludes.
Bold 2023 rumor we can hope is true!
Gigaton era being over makes me sad. I feel like they barely toured it, and they were over most of the songs by the time they got to play them live. It’s a great album. I feel like we missed out on what would have been a great, energized album tour in 2020.
100% agreed. To each their own and all, but I'm kind of amazed how many folks on here shit talk Gigaton. It's a really solid record, especially for a band 30 years in.
Yeah, I wish I had gotten to hear more of it. Only four songs in two shows - Alright, Who Ever Said, DOTC twice and 7 O'clock twice. Don't really have a feel for any of these songs live yet.
The songs that I thought would sound great live (Who Ever Said, Never Destination and SBWM) have disappointed me in listening to all the bootlegs. Ed has really struggled with the lyrics which throws the songs off too. I like the album but not much translates to the live stage well. Retrograde sounds good live, but that’s about it. I knew DOTC would be tough,
As someone who went to "several" shows on this tour, Who Ever Said is now my piss and a beer song. It is really not good live. Quick Escape is a keeper. They seem to have dropped Take The Long Road all together.
I thought Who Ever Said was the best live of the new songs 🤷♂️ To each their own. Sounded great in Nashville anyway. I’m bored of Quick Escape already to he honest
Next North American leg should be: Houston - New Orleans - Atlanta - Raleigh - DC/Balt- NY/Philly - Boston - Pitt - Ohio - Detroit - Chicago - Minny - Seattle
After seeing Camden and Nashville and how on fire these guys are (and how old we are all getting) I sure hope they continue touring and head back out next spring/summer in the US. Already jonesing for more shows.
Would really like a U.K./European tour next year. Though I’m thinking an EV Earthlings mini tour to Europe is more likely given EV just wants to play live and Jeff hates touring.
Don’t know why but my instinct is that they may never play Aus/NZ ever again. Makes less economic sense than North America and Europe.
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Oh! They're in NYC on 9/11! It's gonna be an epic 3.5 hour show with all sorts of guests and tributes and rarities and...
Anyone who thinks a new album means the return of three hour shows... don't get your hopes up.
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Melbourne #3 '03
Melbourne #1 '06
Melbourne #3 '06
Melbourne '09
Melbourne '14
2014 : Amsterdam 1&2, Milan, Berlin, Werchter
2018 : Amsterdam 1&2, Pinkpop, London 1, Berlin, Werchter, London 2
2020 : ?
1998: Montreal, Mansfield I&II
2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II
2017: New York
2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
1998: Montreal, Mansfield I&II
2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II
2017: New York
2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
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Chicago 8-20-18
St. Louis 4-4-20
Denver 4-9-20
Denver 9-22-22
Noblesville 9-10-23
Vancouver 5-6-24
Seattle 5-30-24
Nashville 5-6-25
EV
Chicago 2-9-22
Tempe 2-26-23
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
Toronto 03, 06, 11
Ottawa 05, 11
Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
Costa Rica 11
London (Ont.), Hartford 13
Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)
I agree, its surprising, but coldplays market is much different than this one. They attract a younger pop oriented crowd who'd jump at the chance to sit in the cumulus stratosphere for 50 bucks. I'm not sure this audience is on board with that
I never thought I'd ever say this, but the Cali dates were eye opening. It's possible the promoter took a bit of a hit (yea!). After that, I wouldn't front $ for unproven markets for a stadium advance, but probably LN takes a flier on that risk
The band should take some well deserved time off and when ready, do it right. Not these cheesy mini US tours of the past ten years.
Definitely agree itd be best if they hit all the major league markets when they are ready. Keep in mind they played more traditional red markets this year than the blue northeast, so I don't see why they'd be averse to any regions
And if economics is the issue, then PLEASE charge me more money to play arenas. Arenas effing rock like nothing else w this band. We all know it.
And I'd rather pay you guys than CITGO and Marriott.
Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
(Raleigh 2016)
Columbia 2016
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
also…. Looottttaaaa time to make up due to Covid. First album in 7 years and then couldn’t tour for 2 years.
Mansfield '08
Hartford '10
Worcester, Hartford '13
Global Citizen, NY '15