The Official 2023 Tour Rumor Thread
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Seems there was a JSON for the 2nd.Doug87 said:Did anybody find a JSON for Sep 2? Feel like we only found the first dates of the stands except Chicago was the 7th for some reason instead of the 5th.
I’m going to guess that they have some sort of arrangement that is going to make it possible to do both MIA on the 3rd and St Paul in the 2nd.
Important to note that they won’t need to transport speaker systems or lighting rigs or a stage if desired so it is feasible to do the gig by flying their gear there or at least I would think it would be possible.0 -
Yes. There is a post with all dates on this page.Doug87 said:Did anybody find a JSON for Sep 2? Feel like we only found the first dates of the stands except Chicago was the 7th for some reason instead of the 5th.
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No bubble burst. It’s not a question of quality. Just ironic that you’re complaining about them copying another artist when Zep has done the same thing.Merkin Baller said:
GVF blows, sorry to burst your bubble.on2legs said:Merkin Baller said:
I feel like there’s a pretty big difference in many artists influencing a band’s sound as opposed to a band building their entire brand around sounding like one specific, very popular & successful band from 50 years ago, but I digress.on2legs said:Merkin Baller said:
I've heard critiques of LZ having ripped off other artists with some songs, but did they build their entire brand off of sounding like another act?on2legs said:
I'm not a GVF fan, but it seems ironic to be criticizing them for ripping off Led Zeppelin when so much of the Zep catalog was lifted from other artists.Merkin Baller said:
Music is all subjective of course, but the fact that they are ripping off Zep's sound is a pretty legitimate critique.PJINFLA said:
I agree I have been a fan since I first heard them. Seen them 4 times and enjoy the 70's sound. Great up and coming band. At their shows it's been cool to see the younger crowd enjoying live rock music instead the other garbage that is out there. Of course as usual the haters are going to hate.Zod said:I feel I'm on the opposite side of the Spectrum. I've enjoyed Greta Van Fleet. I've been listening to them since they released the double EP (From the Fires). I don't really care for most modern rock music. Most if sounds bland, overproduced and lacks soul. You can't really tell one singer from another, and they bury the vocals behind the instruments.
I dunno. I love 70s rock. So Great Van Fleet kind of scratches that itch. I know there's been a few bands over the years that have been billed as sort of sounding like Zeppelin. Sure the singer sounds like Robert Plant, but at least the singer sounds like something
I got to see them do a bar show in Toronto (Rebel Nightclub) in 2018. It was a pretty good show. They only had the double EP at the time, with their first full album getting close to coming out. My only complaint about the show was that it was short (but what do you when you only have so many songs).
I guess I'll be the contrarian on this thread. I don't listen to too many modern rock bands, but I quite like Greta Van Fleet
GVF reminds me of Godsmack who started as an AIC cover band, or Creed or any other band that seemed to simply imitate another band's sound... it feels gimmicky, like Wolfmother.
I guess someone could argue that Zep's brand was a blues heavy rock band whose sound borrowed extensively from guys like Willie Dixon, Robert Johnson and many others. Not to mention a long history of "borrowing" lyrics and riffs without crediting the original artists. I'm not running down Led Zeppelin... they're a great band. It's just ironic that another band came along and "borrowed" their sound.
So I guess it would be cool if instead GVF just copied Zeppelin's riffs and lyrics and didn't credit them?1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20 -
Now you’re just repeating yourself.on2legs said:
No bubble burst. It’s not a question of quality. Just ironic that you’re complaining about them copying another artist when Zep has done the same thing.Merkin Baller said:
GVF blows, sorry to burst your bubble.on2legs said:Merkin Baller said:
I feel like there’s a pretty big difference in many artists influencing a band’s sound as opposed to a band building their entire brand around sounding like one specific, very popular & successful band from 50 years ago, but I digress.on2legs said:Merkin Baller said:
I've heard critiques of LZ having ripped off other artists with some songs, but did they build their entire brand off of sounding like another act?on2legs said:
I'm not a GVF fan, but it seems ironic to be criticizing them for ripping off Led Zeppelin when so much of the Zep catalog was lifted from other artists.Merkin Baller said:
Music is all subjective of course, but the fact that they are ripping off Zep's sound is a pretty legitimate critique.PJINFLA said:
I agree I have been a fan since I first heard them. Seen them 4 times and enjoy the 70's sound. Great up and coming band. At their shows it's been cool to see the younger crowd enjoying live rock music instead the other garbage that is out there. Of course as usual the haters are going to hate.Zod said:I feel I'm on the opposite side of the Spectrum. I've enjoyed Greta Van Fleet. I've been listening to them since they released the double EP (From the Fires). I don't really care for most modern rock music. Most if sounds bland, overproduced and lacks soul. You can't really tell one singer from another, and they bury the vocals behind the instruments.
I dunno. I love 70s rock. So Great Van Fleet kind of scratches that itch. I know there's been a few bands over the years that have been billed as sort of sounding like Zeppelin. Sure the singer sounds like Robert Plant, but at least the singer sounds like something
I got to see them do a bar show in Toronto (Rebel Nightclub) in 2018. It was a pretty good show. They only had the double EP at the time, with their first full album getting close to coming out. My only complaint about the show was that it was short (but what do you when you only have so many songs).
I guess I'll be the contrarian on this thread. I don't listen to too many modern rock bands, but I quite like Greta Van Fleet
GVF reminds me of Godsmack who started as an AIC cover band, or Creed or any other band that seemed to simply imitate another band's sound... it feels gimmicky, like Wolfmother.
I guess someone could argue that Zep's brand was a blues heavy rock band whose sound borrowed extensively from guys like Willie Dixon, Robert Johnson and many others. Not to mention a long history of "borrowing" lyrics and riffs without crediting the original artists. I'm not running down Led Zeppelin... they're a great band. It's just ironic that another band came along and "borrowed" their sound.
So I guess it would be cool if instead GVF just copied Zeppelin's riffs and lyrics and didn't credit them?We disagree. I’m moving on.0 -
I don’t have specific details.aisleseats said:
There's numerous concert announcements every single day. Could you be more specific?Kevinman said:
I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side06.27.98 Alpine Valley
10.08.00 Alpine Valley
09.23.02 Chicago
06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley
10.03.04 Grand Rapids
10.05.05 Chicago
05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee
08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago
08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland
09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
07.19.13 Chicago
10.17.14 Moline
08.20.16 Chicago
08.18.18 Chicago
09.18.22 St. Louis
09.05.23 Chicago0 -
Best thread ever! It has taken so many turns at this point I’m hoping the announcement happens in August just to see where it will take us 😂😂jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Ironic.Merkin Baller said:
Now you’re just repeating yourself.on2legs said:
No bubble burst. It’s not a question of quality. Just ironic that you’re complaining about them copying another artist when Zep has done the same thing.Merkin Baller said:
GVF blows, sorry to burst your bubble.on2legs said:Merkin Baller said:
I feel like there’s a pretty big difference in many artists influencing a band’s sound as opposed to a band building their entire brand around sounding like one specific, very popular & successful band from 50 years ago, but I digress.on2legs said:Merkin Baller said:
I've heard critiques of LZ having ripped off other artists with some songs, but did they build their entire brand off of sounding like another act?on2legs said:
I'm not a GVF fan, but it seems ironic to be criticizing them for ripping off Led Zeppelin when so much of the Zep catalog was lifted from other artists.Merkin Baller said:
Music is all subjective of course, but the fact that they are ripping off Zep's sound is a pretty legitimate critique.PJINFLA said:
I agree I have been a fan since I first heard them. Seen them 4 times and enjoy the 70's sound. Great up and coming band. At their shows it's been cool to see the younger crowd enjoying live rock music instead the other garbage that is out there. Of course as usual the haters are going to hate.Zod said:I feel I'm on the opposite side of the Spectrum. I've enjoyed Greta Van Fleet. I've been listening to them since they released the double EP (From the Fires). I don't really care for most modern rock music. Most if sounds bland, overproduced and lacks soul. You can't really tell one singer from another, and they bury the vocals behind the instruments.
I dunno. I love 70s rock. So Great Van Fleet kind of scratches that itch. I know there's been a few bands over the years that have been billed as sort of sounding like Zeppelin. Sure the singer sounds like Robert Plant, but at least the singer sounds like something
I got to see them do a bar show in Toronto (Rebel Nightclub) in 2018. It was a pretty good show. They only had the double EP at the time, with their first full album getting close to coming out. My only complaint about the show was that it was short (but what do you when you only have so many songs).
I guess I'll be the contrarian on this thread. I don't listen to too many modern rock bands, but I quite like Greta Van Fleet
GVF reminds me of Godsmack who started as an AIC cover band, or Creed or any other band that seemed to simply imitate another band's sound... it feels gimmicky, like Wolfmother.
I guess someone could argue that Zep's brand was a blues heavy rock band whose sound borrowed extensively from guys like Willie Dixon, Robert Johnson and many others. Not to mention a long history of "borrowing" lyrics and riffs without crediting the original artists. I'm not running down Led Zeppelin... they're a great band. It's just ironic that another band came along and "borrowed" their sound.
So I guess it would be cool if instead GVF just copied Zeppelin's riffs and lyrics and didn't credit them?We disagree. I’m moving on.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20 -
Bono’s son’s band opening? 🤷🏼♀️Facemeltor said:
can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?0 -
Jhonkensy Shandler, you have either proven yourself to have the inside dope or your reputation shall be launched into orbitJ Shandler said:I have it on a good source that PJ is in the Made in America festival. Not sure what day. Lineup will be announced within a week0 -
NiceMakeUSmile said:
Bono’s son’s band opening? 🤷🏼♀️Facemeltor said:
I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side06.27.98 Alpine Valley
10.08.00 Alpine Valley
09.23.02 Chicago
06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley
10.03.04 Grand Rapids
10.05.05 Chicago
05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee
08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago
08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland
09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
07.19.13 Chicago
10.17.14 Moline
08.20.16 Chicago
08.18.18 Chicago
09.18.22 St. Louis
09.05.23 Chicago0 -
They are at bourbon and beyond sept 13-17. Rest of September is open according to website.Kevinman said:
NiceMakeUSmile said:
Bono’s son’s band opening? 🤷🏼♀️Facemeltor said:
can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?0 -
I fly the Sponge flag hard right through New Pop Sundaysmile6680 said:
I can relate. Only a couple exceptions. Ben Harper at Mansfield in 98. I couldn't wait to hear him the second night. Sponge in the mid 90's. Both of them I had never heard a note from and liked what I heard right away. Ben Harper stuck. I didn't care about anything sponge put out after rotting pinate. There has been a couple more but not in this genre of music.Zod said:
I mean, for me to enjoy a concert I need to know the songs. If I go see a band I'm not familiar with the catalog it all sounds the same to me, and I'm less than impressed. I think as a result, its really hard for opening bands to impress me. One because everyone is there to see the headliner, and two because I'm often not familiar enough with the catalog. I made a rule years ago to never judge a band unless I'm seeing them as a headliner. That being said the rate times an opener has blown my mind (Pkypjfan said:
I was really looking forward to hearing GVF at B&B, and could not have been more unimpressed. Plus they went long, which took time away from PJ. If you look at the setlist, we missed Unthought Known because of that! GVF, know your place . . . you will simply be a footnote in years to come. Just be happy you were at the same festival - do a great set and get off the stage early!jamofpearls said:I must be in the minority, cause I had fun listening to GVF at B&B. I was past the crowd, chilling on a blanket. Excited to see them again at Shaky Knees next month.0 -
I will say that if Pearl Jam is announced those will be some entertaining ass replies to readMakeUSmile said:
The MIA post on Instagram has everyone bitching about the price increase since last year. Looks like tickets went up $60 and that’s with the early bird pricing.PJNB said:
They are playing St Paul on Sep 2nd. The MIA festival is Sep 2-3.J Shandler said:I have it on a good source that PJ is in the Made in America festival. Not sure what day. Lineup will be announced within a week
It is also an 18hr drive away without stops....That post also has many people hoping /wishing for Travis Scott.0 -
It would be ironic if Greta Van Fleet is announced as the headliner as that will really be some entertaining ass replies to read.pjl44 said:
I will say that if Pearl Jam is announced those will be some entertaining ass replies to readMakeUSmile said:
The MIA post on Instagram has everyone bitching about the price increase since last year. Looks like tickets went up $60 and that’s with the early bird pricing.PJNB said:
They are playing St Paul on Sep 2nd. The MIA festival is Sep 2-3.J Shandler said:I have it on a good source that PJ is in the Made in America festival. Not sure what day. Lineup will be announced within a week
It is also an 18hr drive away without stops....That post also has many people hoping /wishing for Travis Scott.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20 -
Imagine buying tickets blindly with hopes of Travis Scott and they announce Pearl Jam?!? 🤣pjl44 said:
I will say that if Pearl Jam is announced those will be some entertaining ass replies to readMakeUSmile said:
The MIA post on Instagram has everyone bitching about the price increase since last year. Looks like tickets went up $60 and that’s with the early bird pricing.PJNB said:
They are playing St Paul on Sep 2nd. The MIA festival is Sep 2-3.J Shandler said:I have it on a good source that PJ is in the Made in America festival. Not sure what day. Lineup will be announced within a week
It is also an 18hr drive away without stops....That post also has many people hoping /wishing for Travis Scott.can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?0 -
pjl44 said:
Jhonkensy Shandler, you have either proven yourself to have the inside dope or your reputation shall be launched into orbitJ Shandler said:I have it on a good source that PJ is in the Made in America festival. Not sure what day. Lineup will be announced within a weekThis poster also said Pearl Jam was gonna play Citiizens Bank Park in 2018. That was a swing and a miss..Made in America hasn't had a guitar at the festival in 5 years, but maybe they are going back to the original mixed up format.0 -
on2legs said:
It would be ironic if Greta Van Fleet is announced as the headliner as that will really be some entertaining ass replies to read.pjl44 said:
I will say that if Pearl Jam is announced those will be some entertaining ass replies to readMakeUSmile said:
The MIA post on Instagram has everyone bitching about the price increase since last year. Looks like tickets went up $60 and that’s with the early bird pricing.PJNB said:
They are playing St Paul on Sep 2nd. The MIA festival is Sep 2-3.J Shandler said:I have it on a good source that PJ is in the Made in America festival. Not sure what day. Lineup will be announced within a week
It is also an 18hr drive away without stops....That post also has many people hoping /wishing for Travis Scott.
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New Pop Sunday is wildly underrated. Great album.pjl44 said:
I fly the Sponge flag hard right through New Pop Sundaysmile6680 said:
I can relate. Only a couple exceptions. Ben Harper at Mansfield in 98. I couldn't wait to hear him the second night. Sponge in the mid 90's. Both of them I had never heard a note from and liked what I heard right away. Ben Harper stuck. I didn't care about anything sponge put out after rotting pinate. There has been a couple more but not in this genre of music.Zod said:
I mean, for me to enjoy a concert I need to know the songs. If I go see a band I'm not familiar with the catalog it all sounds the same to me, and I'm less than impressed. I think as a result, its really hard for opening bands to impress me. One because everyone is there to see the headliner, and two because I'm often not familiar enough with the catalog. I made a rule years ago to never judge a band unless I'm seeing them as a headliner. That being said the rate times an opener has blown my mind (Pkypjfan said:
I was really looking forward to hearing GVF at B&B, and could not have been more unimpressed. Plus they went long, which took time away from PJ. If you look at the setlist, we missed Unthought Known because of that! GVF, know your place . . . you will simply be a footnote in years to come. Just be happy you were at the same festival - do a great set and get off the stage early!jamofpearls said:I must be in the minority, cause I had fun listening to GVF at B&B. I was past the crowd, chilling on a blanket. Excited to see them again at Shaky Knees next month.0
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