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andrew68andrew68 Posts: 1,804
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Fck'd up man.....$800 for a 'PJ Premium' for 10C members?  

i get it...it's a business...the hypocrisy however, is just shameful

pains me to say it...but PJ could learn a lot from Phish


Any new realizations... would have to wait...
Til he had more time,... more time...
Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
To himself... I'll see you on the other side...

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  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,207
    edited March 2022
    Here we go again.  Another one of these posts. 

    When will people start to understand that verified fan sales are NOT 10Club ticket sales? Verified fan has nothing to do with 10Club. 
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,450
    If a few jacked up prices means moderate prices for the many, I am allllll for it
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  • andrew68andrew68 Posts: 1,804
    JojoRice said:
    Here we go again.  Another one of these posts. 

    When will people start to understand that verified fan sales are NOT 10Club ticket sales? Verified fan has nothing to do with 10Club. 
    here you go again.....so in your mind 10C and PJ have NO say in this?  child please...it's a verified partnership with 10C/PJ
    Any new realizations... would have to wait...
    Til he had more time,... more time...
    Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
    To himself... I'll see you on the other side...
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,901
    Andrew which tickets are you after?
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • andrew68andrew68 Posts: 1,804
    100 Pacer said:
    Andrew which tickets are you after?
    staying local my man, flights are insane ...OTT, the HAMMER and TO !!
    Any new realizations... would have to wait...
    Til he had more time,... more time...
    Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
    To himself... I'll see you on the other side...
  • sfrdudersfrduder Posts: 263
    I hear you. It shouldn't be this hard or expensive to get tickets to your favorite band. Sad times. But im also guessing there will be a bunch of extras available within the days before the show. This happened to the EV solo shows. So dont panic! 
  • MA209067MA209067 Posts: 77
    There’s a “filter” option when buying tickets on TM that allows you to remove platinum seats and only show regular tickets. I understand in the scramble everyone is probably just selecting best available or quickly choosing on the map, but this is how things are handled now. Honestly, I found the whole process from 10 club lottery to VF today to be smooth and thoroughly explained beforehand. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,125
    I agree with your last sentence, but at the same time Phish broke up for years. 
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited March 2022
    JojoRice said:
    Here we go again.  Another one of these posts. 

    When will people start to understand that verified fan sales are NOT 10Club ticket sales? Verified fan has nothing to do with 10Club. 
    It’s a different  batch of tickets.  It’s TM tickets true. PJ allowed this, also true 

    they also announced this:In order to maintain low ticket prices and fan club accessibility, we will be releasing a limited number of premium tickets to the public at market rate price at a later date. 

    it’s  not fair to take the super expensive tickets out of context to the stated intent of having that offset lower price 10c tickets and/or to secure more fan club allocations.  If you look at it solely as a money grab, that’s only half the story 
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  • KM73780KM73780 Posts: 1,112
    If the cost is too much for you, ya don’t have to go. People seem to forget that skipping a concert is an option. 
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,901
    andrew68 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    Andrew which tickets are you after?
    staying local my man, flights are insane ...OTT, the HAMMER and TO !!
    Let me know if you can find me a GA for Ottawa? I will either have a great reserved or GA for you in Hamilton.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    I think that PJ and VF are related because the VF tickets (not the premium) were the same price as my lottery ticket cost, no matter where the seat was (Nashville).  
    I’m thinking the OP may have missed the lower price tickets and had to buy the higher. I agree that these two have a business relationship for sure so I believe the band (probably all bands) has a significant say in how things are handled. 
    I feel bad for those who are paying higher prices but I also believe it does what it’s intended, getting more 10C members in the door by controlling the majority of seats. 
  • mpedonempedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,945
    andrew68 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    Andrew which tickets are you after?
    staying local my man, flights are insane ...OTT, the HAMMER and TO !!

    From what I'm seeing, you can still get face value tickets for Ottawa and Hamilton. Toronto, though, yeah, you're down to Premium (don't buy them) or waiting for F2F.
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  • andrew68andrew68 Posts: 1,804
    100 Pacer said:
    andrew68 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    Andrew which tickets are you after?
    staying local my man, flights are insane ...OTT, the HAMMER and TO !!
    Let me know if you can find me a GA for Ottawa? I will either have a great reserved or GA for you in Hamilton.
    wicked cool...may have a lead on a GA or reserved Ott for you !
    Any new realizations... would have to wait...
    Til he had more time,... more time...
    Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
    To himself... I'll see you on the other side...
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,520
    PJ =/ 10c.

    Generally platinum tickets are the result of a promoter offering a guarantee to a band to play the show, then they need to raise enough revenue from the show to pay the band and earn themselves a profit.

    Platinum tickets are a way to earn more ticket revenue, which results in both the band and promoter making more.   TM makes more by proxy because their fees seem to be correlated to the cost of a ticket.

    I would have to think the band gave the ok for this.   It's possible they turn a blind eye, try to get as many tickets allocated to the 10c as possible, and leave the rest up to the promoter/tm, but given how the feel about ticketing, I have to imagine the gave an ok to do it.

    I don't blame the 10c, none of the 10c tickets were sold for platinum prices.   These are the non 10c tickets.
  • JP218404JP218404 Posts: 1,402
    andrew68 said:
    Fck'd up man.....$800 for a 'PJ Premium' for 10C members?  

    i get it...it's a business...the hypocrisy however, is just shameful

    pains me to say it...but PJ could learn a lot from Phish


    Can they? They got it too



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  • andrew68andrew68 Posts: 1,804
    JP218404 said:
    andrew68 said:
    Fck'd up man.....$800 for a 'PJ Premium' for 10C members?  

    i get it...it's a business...the hypocrisy however, is just shameful

    pains me to say it...but PJ could learn a lot from Phish


    Can they? They got it too



    i meant the way they do their fan tickets by mail 
    Any new realizations... would have to wait...
    Til he had more time,... more time...
    Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
    To himself... I'll see you on the other side...
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,207
    These new "Platinum" tickets definitely do suck.  With the rising costs of everything lately I'm not surprised they have them.  If it means being able to offer more 10Club seats at better prices then I'm all for it.  
    "I got memories, I got shit"

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  • mattcozmattcoz Posts: 2,202
    Cropduster-80 said:
    JojoRice said:
    Here we go again.  Another one of these posts. 

    When will people start to understand that verified fan sales are NOT 10Club ticket sales? Verified fan has nothing to do with 10Club. 
    It’s a different  batch of tickets.  It’s TM tickets true. PJ allowed this, also true 

    they also announced this:In order to maintain low ticket prices and fan club accessibility, we will be releasing a limited number of premium tickets to the public at market rate price at a later date. 

    it’s  not fair to take the super expensive tickets out of context to the stated intent of having that offset lower price 10c tickets and/or to secure more fan club allocations.  If you look at it solely as a money grab, that’s only half the story 
    Well said.
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,901
    andrew68 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    andrew68 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    Andrew which tickets are you after?
    staying local my man, flights are insane ...OTT, the HAMMER and TO !!
    Let me know if you can find me a GA for Ottawa? I will either have a great reserved or GA for you in Hamilton.
    wicked cool...may have a lead on a GA or reserved Ott for you !
    Ottawa GA or nuthin’!

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    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,935
    I know in my household, expenses rarely go down from year to year.  They usually go up.  So we need to earn the same or hopefully more than previous years.  

    The band is no different.  They are all accustomed to a certain amount of revenue coming in each year and I imagine they want to meet or exceed that each year without being hoggish about it. So they either have to play more shows at the same prices or play fewer shows but increase prices.  

    If the cost of making huge amount of tickets available to the fan club at below market rates is to allow the promoter to sell select seats at premium then I’m ok with it.  I wish tickets were still $19 each but it is what it is. 
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  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,616
    on2legs said:
    I know in my household, expenses rarely go down from year to year.  They usually go up.  So we need to earn the same or hopefully more than previous years.  

    The band is no different.  They are all accustomed to a certain amount of revenue coming in each year and I imagine they want to meet or exceed that each year without being hoggish about it. So they either have to play more shows at the same prices or play fewer shows but increase prices.  

    If the cost of making huge amount of tickets available to the fan club at below market rates is to allow the promoter to sell select seats at premium then I’m ok with it.  I wish tickets were still $19 each but it is what it is. 
    All of that. And hell, the lawn tix for Camden were super cheap. Take what ya can get, folks.
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