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mrussel1 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:I don't think Hunter wants to do it publicly either, it was his excuse not to testify. You think he wants to talk about his drug habits and spending hundreds of thousands on prostitutes to the public? Its not like this all happened a lifetime ago, its just a few years he admitted to using cocaine daily and spending an unaccounted $million + in cash..
Now I don't think it means anything about how his dad is connected. I just don't think he wanted to testify and that was his out.
But they won't, because this is a manufactured scandal.
I doubt the IRS typically looks the other way on not paying millions in taxes. I got served at work for not paying like $400 in taxes because I cashed out some investments to pay a medical bill and forgot to include it on my taxes, and that was months after I had already paid it. I was pretty pissed to be getting served at work for something I already paid. Can only imagine how hard they go after $1 million.
Now I know that doesn't mean Joe is involved.
The GOP should call him on his bluff and have him testify publically and prove to us once and for all that this isn't a manufactured scandal, like Hillary's emails, and the Ukraine bio labs, and Hunter's server in Ukraine among others.
How do you entertain such blatant nonsense?
Now I agree the GOP only cares and wants to make it public story because of who he is. They aren't so determined to back up the IRS on anyone else, I agree with that. And that they are trying to use this to tie into Joe. But that doesn't change the fact he spent millions in cash and didn't pay taxes on it and probably doesn't want to talk publicly about his sex life and his spending habits. There's a difference between writing a book about an addiction you overcame, and answering questions on how you spend hundreds of thousands on prostitutes.
The GOP should call his bluff and do an open hearing. I doubt he really wants to. And the GOP won't because it does allow them to continue the story of "what do you have to hide by not complying?" story and holding him in contempt.
So, trying to understand your second paragraph... after yesterday's press conference, your assertion is that GOP only cares and wants to make this a public story because of who he is, but they won't take him up on his offer call him on his bluff to testify publically so they can perpetuate the myth that he refuses to comply? Is that right?
Do you agree with the repub strategy? Do you think it’s sound? Do you believe Hunter is “hiding something?”
We all seem to be in agreement that the GOP is acting in bad faith here, but if one also believes Hunter's bluffing, one can continue to entertain and perpetuate the "Biden Crime Family" narrative.
Regarding his testimony, Hunter will need to plead the Fifth on most every question that has to do with his gun and tax charges. He is under indictment and confirming these charges will eliminate his ability to negotiate a plea deal.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Gern Blansten said:mrussel1 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:I don't think Hunter wants to do it publicly either, it was his excuse not to testify. You think he wants to talk about his drug habits and spending hundreds of thousands on prostitutes to the public? Its not like this all happened a lifetime ago, its just a few years he admitted to using cocaine daily and spending an unaccounted $million + in cash..
Now I don't think it means anything about how his dad is connected. I just don't think he wanted to testify and that was his out.
But they won't, because this is a manufactured scandal.
I doubt the IRS typically looks the other way on not paying millions in taxes. I got served at work for not paying like $400 in taxes because I cashed out some investments to pay a medical bill and forgot to include it on my taxes, and that was months after I had already paid it. I was pretty pissed to be getting served at work for something I already paid. Can only imagine how hard they go after $1 million.
Now I know that doesn't mean Joe is involved.
The GOP should call him on his bluff and have him testify publically and prove to us once and for all that this isn't a manufactured scandal, like Hillary's emails, and the Ukraine bio labs, and Hunter's server in Ukraine among others.
How do you entertain such blatant nonsense?
Now I agree the GOP only cares and wants to make it public story because of who he is. They aren't so determined to back up the IRS on anyone else, I agree with that. And that they are trying to use this to tie into Joe. But that doesn't change the fact he spent millions in cash and didn't pay taxes on it and probably doesn't want to talk publicly about his sex life and his spending habits. There's a difference between writing a book about an addiction you overcame, and answering questions on how you spend hundreds of thousands on prostitutes.
The GOP should call his bluff and do an open hearing. I doubt he really wants to. And the GOP won't because it does allow them to continue the story of "what do you have to hide by not complying?" story and holding him in contempt.
So, trying to understand your second paragraph... after yesterday's press conference, your assertion is that GOP only cares and wants to make this a public story because of who he is, but they won't take him up on his offer call him on his bluff to testify publically so they can perpetuate the myth that he refuses to comply? Is that right?
Do you agree with the repub strategy? Do you think it’s sound? Do you believe Hunter is “hiding something?”
We all seem to be in agreement that the GOP is acting in bad faith here, but if one also believes Hunter's bluffing, one can continue to entertain and perpetuate the "Biden Crime Family" narrative.
Regarding his testimony, Hunter will need to plead the Fifth on most every question that has to do with his gun and tax charges. He is under indictment and confirming these charges will eliminate his ability to negotiate a plea deal.
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Gern Blansten said:mrussel1 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:I don't think Hunter wants to do it publicly either, it was his excuse not to testify. You think he wants to talk about his drug habits and spending hundreds of thousands on prostitutes to the public? Its not like this all happened a lifetime ago, its just a few years he admitted to using cocaine daily and spending an unaccounted $million + in cash..
Now I don't think it means anything about how his dad is connected. I just don't think he wanted to testify and that was his out.
But they won't, because this is a manufactured scandal.
I doubt the IRS typically looks the other way on not paying millions in taxes. I got served at work for not paying like $400 in taxes because I cashed out some investments to pay a medical bill and forgot to include it on my taxes, and that was months after I had already paid it. I was pretty pissed to be getting served at work for something I already paid. Can only imagine how hard they go after $1 million.
Now I know that doesn't mean Joe is involved.
The GOP should call him on his bluff and have him testify publically and prove to us once and for all that this isn't a manufactured scandal, like Hillary's emails, and the Ukraine bio labs, and Hunter's server in Ukraine among others.
How do you entertain such blatant nonsense?
Now I agree the GOP only cares and wants to make it public story because of who he is. They aren't so determined to back up the IRS on anyone else, I agree with that. And that they are trying to use this to tie into Joe. But that doesn't change the fact he spent millions in cash and didn't pay taxes on it and probably doesn't want to talk publicly about his sex life and his spending habits. There's a difference between writing a book about an addiction you overcame, and answering questions on how you spend hundreds of thousands on prostitutes.
The GOP should call his bluff and do an open hearing. I doubt he really wants to. And the GOP won't because it does allow them to continue the story of "what do you have to hide by not complying?" story and holding him in contempt.
So, trying to understand your second paragraph... after yesterday's press conference, your assertion is that GOP only cares and wants to make this a public story because of who he is, but they won't take him up on his offer call him on his bluff to testify publically so they can perpetuate the myth that he refuses to comply? Is that right?
Do you agree with the repub strategy? Do you think it’s sound? Do you believe Hunter is “hiding something?”
We all seem to be in agreement that the GOP is acting in bad faith here, but if one also believes Hunter's bluffing, one can continue to entertain and perpetuate the "Biden Crime Family" narrative.
Regarding his testimony, Hunter will need to plead the Fifth on most every question that has to do with his gun and tax charges. He is under indictment and confirming these charges will eliminate his ability to negotiate a plea deal.
And Hunter's Ukraine server
And the Biden funded Ukraine biolabs.
etc etc etc
Hunter's laptop was the October surprise they promised, not unlike Comey's announcement of an investigation of Hillary . The only reason it didn't stick was because (for once) the media recognized it was bullshit. Fox fucking News turned it away it stunk so bad. Imagine that?
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Don't forget Uranium One! If Hillary won, the maga's would've tried to impeach her over that. Since she lost, nobody even remembers the stupid thing.
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The Juggler said:Don't forget Uranium One! If Hillary won, the maga's would've tried to impeach her over that. Since she lost, nobody even remembers the stupid thing.
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I have a friend, or had a friend, who spent most of 2015 and 2016 trying to convince me that the Uranium One story was the biggest sandal in the history of our country and it could eventually lead to the death of millions of people because we were just HANDING RUSSIA ALL OUR URANIUM!!!! The guy would not shut up about it. I'm sure there were millions who voted for Trump just like him. He hasn't mentioned it since Trump got elected...and neither has Sean Hannity.
Now, I haven't talked to him in a few years now but I bet if we did speak and I brought it up he wouldn't even know what I was talking about. He's probably forgotten about it by this point. And it's the same thing with this dumb laptop. If Biden would've lost all these magas would've moved on over to the next fake manufactured story.
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mace1229 said:I don't think Hunter wants to do it publicly either, it was his excuse not to testify. You think he wants to talk about his drug habits and spending hundreds of thousands on prostitutes to the public? Its not like this all happened a lifetime ago, its just a few years he admitted to using cocaine daily and spending an unaccounted $million + in cash..
Now I don't think it means anything about how his dad is connected. I just don't think he wanted to testify and that was his out."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Merkin Baller said:benjs said:mrussel1 said:benjs said:Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:I don't think Hunter wants to do it publicly either, it was his excuse not to testify. You think he wants to talk about his drug habits and spending hundreds of thousands on prostitutes to the public? Its not like this all happened a lifetime ago, its just a few years he admitted to using cocaine daily and spending an unaccounted $million + in cash..
Now I don't think it means anything about how his dad is connected. I just don't think he wanted to testify and that was his out.
But they won't, because this is a manufactured scandal.
I doubt the IRS typically looks the other way on not paying millions in taxes. I got served at work for not paying like $400 in taxes because I cashed out some investments to pay a medical bill and forgot to include it on my taxes, and that was months after I had already paid it. I was pretty pissed to be getting served at work for something I already paid. Can only imagine how hard they go after $1 million.
Now I know that doesn't mean Joe is involved.
The GOP should call him on his bluff and have him testify publically and prove to us once and for all that this isn't a manufactured scandal, like Hillary's emails, and the Ukraine bio labs, and Hunter's server in Ukraine among others.
How do you entertain such blatant nonsense?
Now I agree the GOP only cares and wants to make it public story because of who he is. They aren't so determined to back up the IRS on anyone else, I agree with that. And that they are trying to use this to tie into Joe. But that doesn't change the fact he spent millions in cash and didn't pay taxes on it and probably doesn't want to talk publicly about his sex life and his spending habits. There's a difference between writing a book about an addiction you overcame, and answering questions on how you spend hundreds of thousands on prostitutes.
The GOP should call his bluff and do an open hearing. I doubt he really wants to. And the GOP won't because it does allow them to continue the story of "what do you have to hide by not complying?" story and holding him in contempt.
As you said though, for cases like this where the individual had no clearance to secure info, why shouldn't that be entertained?
It's all about narratives and the greater narrative here is the "Biden crime family", a manufactured narrative intended to act as a foil to the blatant corruption of the trumps.
2024 is going to be so much fun."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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good lord the last 2.5 pages of this thread have made me even dumber..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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the guy has said on several occasions he wants to only testify publicly. why would anybody not believe him and take it at his word?
i am trying to understand how someone could think that by him saying this that he is trying to get out of testifying at all?
bluffing, lol. what a masterful gambit, sir."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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The Juggler said:I have a friend, or had a friend, who spent most of 2015 and 2016 trying to convince me that the Uranium One story was the biggest sandal in the history of our country and it could eventually lead to the death of millions of people because we were just HANDING RUSSIA ALL OUR URANIUM!!!! The guy would not shut up about it. I'm sure there were millions who voted for Trump just like him. He hasn't mentioned it since Trump got elected...and neither has Sean Hannity.
Now, I haven't talked to him in a few years now but I bet if we did speak and I brought it up he wouldn't even know what I was talking about. He's probably forgotten about it by this point. And it's the same thing with this dumb laptop. If Biden would've lost all these magas would've moved on over to the next fake manufactured story.0 -
mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:I have a friend, or had a friend, who spent most of 2015 and 2016 trying to convince me that the Uranium One story was the biggest sandal in the history of our country and it could eventually lead to the death of millions of people because we were just HANDING RUSSIA ALL OUR URANIUM!!!! The guy would not shut up about it. I'm sure there were millions who voted for Trump just like him. He hasn't mentioned it since Trump got elected...and neither has Sean Hannity.
Now, I haven't talked to him in a few years now but I bet if we did speak and I brought it up he wouldn't even know what I was talking about. He's probably forgotten about it by this point. And it's the same thing with this dumb laptop. If Biden would've lost all these magas would've moved on over to the next fake manufactured story.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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gimmesometruth27 said:the guy has said on several occasions he wants to only testify publicly. why would anybody not believe him and take it at his word?
i am trying to understand how someone could think that by him saying this that he is trying to get out of testifying at all?
bluffing, lol. what a masterful gambit, sir.0 -
mace1229 said:gimmesometruth27 said:the guy has said on several occasions he wants to only testify publicly. why would anybody not believe him and take it at his word?
i am trying to understand how someone could think that by him saying this that he is trying to get out of testifying at all?
bluffing, lol. what a masterful gambit, sir.
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gimmesometruth27 said:the guy has said on several occasions he wants to only testify publicly. why would anybody not believe him and take it at his word?
i am trying to understand how someone could think that by him saying this that he is trying to get out of testifying at all?
bluffing, lol. what a masterful gambit, sir.
If he pleads the 5th then they can call him guilty like they do with everyone else that pleads the 5th except for tRump and his magats.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:the guy has said on several occasions he wants to only testify publicly. why would anybody not believe him and take it at his word?
i am trying to understand how someone could think that by him saying this that he is trying to get out of testifying at all?
bluffing, lol. what a masterful gambit, sir.
If he pleads the 5th then they can call him guilty like they do with everyone else that pleads the 5th except for tRump and his magats.
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Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:the guy has said on several occasions he wants to only testify publicly. why would anybody not believe him and take it at his word?
i am trying to understand how someone could think that by him saying this that he is trying to get out of testifying at all?
bluffing, lol. what a masterful gambit, sir.
If he pleads the 5th then they can call him guilty like they do with everyone else that pleads the 5th except for tRump and his magats.
there is a saying that says "never ask a question that you do not already know the answer to." the gop would probably ask a bunch of questions and look stupid like the senate committee investigating the corleones in the godfather part 2."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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mace1229 said:gimmesometruth27 said:the guy has said on several occasions he wants to only testify publicly. why would anybody not believe him and take it at his word?
i am trying to understand how someone could think that by him saying this that he is trying to get out of testifying at all?
bluffing, lol. what a masterful gambit, sir.
why would someone offer to testify publicly if they really do not want to testify at all? it does not make sense to me.
based on the fact that he a: wrote a book, b: has gone on the record multiple times offering public testimony and c: is already under criminal investigation and facing huge fines and potential jail, what does he have to lose?
the gop wants private testimony so they can twist his words and bully him. that is the only reason they want private questioning. if you were hunter biden, would you give them that opportunity? i sure as hell would not. they want to destroy my reputation and my father's reputation for the last 5 years? do it publicly, or shut up."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 said:mace1229 said:gimmesometruth27 said:the guy has said on several occasions he wants to only testify publicly. why would anybody not believe him and take it at his word?
i am trying to understand how someone could think that by him saying this that he is trying to get out of testifying at all?
bluffing, lol. what a masterful gambit, sir.
why would someone offer to testify publicly if they really do not want to testify at all? it does not make sense to me.
based on the fact that he a: wrote a book, b: has gone on the record multiple times offering public testimony and c: is already under criminal investigation and facing huge fines and potential jail, what does he have to lose?
the gop wants private testimony so they can twist his words and bully him. that is the only reason they want private questioning. if you were hunter biden, would you give them that opportunity? i sure as hell would not. they want to destroy my reputation and my father's reputation for the last 5 years? do it publicly, or shut up.0
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