a clip for criticism

exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
edited March 2007 in Musicians and Gearheads
http://brehell.ca/greg/audio/clips/clip.mp3

just a song i'm working on.

i tried really hard but it just feels like i can't get into the pocket for soloing. i always feel like i'm ahead of the beat. probably because i'm struggling just to play cleanly.

and it's not like i'm playing anything complicated.

any advice or feedback? i've always struggled with this.

oh and it's the casino on the neck pup, through a BD-2 into the blues. jr. :) it's a little muddy but that's my engineering, not the gear's fault.
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  • armanHammerarmanHammer Posts: 471
    I really like it.. sounds fine the way it is.
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  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    exhausted wrote:
    http://brehell.ca/greg/audio/clips/clip.mp3

    just a song i'm working on.

    i tried really hard but it just feels like i can't get into the pocket for soloing. i always feel like i'm ahead of the beat. probably because i'm struggling just to play cleanly.

    and it's not like i'm playing anything complicated.

    any advice or feedback? i've always struggled with this.

    oh and it's the casino on the neck pup, through a BD-2 into the blues. jr. :) it's a little muddy but that's my engineering, not the gear's fault.

    When you play the little short notes....I can hear that you're trying to play cleanly.....It doesn't sing as good as that little ditty could.....maybe relax those parts a little....

    But....

    Sounds sweet! I like the tone, and the rhythm!
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    thanks guys.

    i tried for another hour to get it tighter but i just can't.

    depressing.
  • BeavBeav Posts: 223
    exhausted wrote:
    thanks guys.

    i tried for another hour to get it tighter but i just can't.

    depressing.

    I know a lot of times when I'm trying to get something right and I'm doing it over and over, I just get frustrated. It ends up feeling like work, which sucks the life right out of it. Maybe it'd help to put it down for a bit and come back when the mood strikes you. Sounds good anyway.
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  • Drew263Drew263 Posts: 602
    I thought it sounded good.
  • NovawindNovawind Posts: 836
    Great creamy tone, don't change it. I didn't notice anything weird about the tempo. I think most of us are just really overcritical of our own playing.
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  • Sounds great, the quality is pretty good!
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    you asked for a crtisism and so i shall give ya!

    haha, only joking. i liked it, sounds good, it's got this kind of summer feel to it.

    if i had to say something that i didn't like, then i'd say there are some notes that you play abruptly or something...... maybe they have to be played that way i don't know but to my ears it's best if those notes could be played a bit smoother.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    why not change the run, you've got some more legato towards the end, sounds great with it flowing.

    Just try some more legato runs with it I think you'll like it more. A glissando or some pulls or drags continue the orignial thought and simply cut out the staccato that's tough. or slow that run down a ton and play it for about an hour and you'll get it. It might sound cool with a slide too if you can do that.

    Sounds cool to me. I love the tone of casinos, I'm still stuck on finding an ES125 or 135 thin body.

    that beatleesque slap back echo sounds great.


    Good stuff Greg.
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  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    thanks folks. i'm still trying. different runs etc. still can't find anything i'm happier with.

    in the mean time the rest of the song is done except i haven't written words or a solid melody yet. dammit. i know once i start singing over it i'll really be unhappy.

    oh well, i found an analogman'ed small stone today for cheap and immediately did a cool little background track with it so not a total loss.
  • I think it sounds good.
    The lead may be a little rushed. I think that happens when you know the music and write it all, because you subconsciously know that the beat is there.
    It's a relaxed song and I don't think the lead really needs to be tight in the beat.

    I got good at playing behind the beat a bit by relaxing and not worrying about playing WITH the next beat, but to listen to the drum and bass beat hit, then let my guitar enter just a bit after that, for a relaxed feel, like reggae music. It takes a bit of work to relax!

    It's a good song, by the way, and the tone IS really nice! Another great Exhausted song in the works! :cool:
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  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    well, the good news is i got a take that i'm happy with. the bad new is that, since it's late at night, it's done with the POD.

    here's the whole song in rough mix with no vocals yet. as such, it's kind of boring but it's only 3.5 minutes so....

    http://brehell.ca/greg/audio/clips/gntg.mp3
  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    exhausted wrote:
    well, the good news is i got a take that i'm happy with. the bad new is that, since it's late at night, it's done with the POD.

    here's the whole song in rough mix with no vocals yet. as such, it's kind of boring but it's only 3.5 minutes so....

    http://brehell.ca/greg/audio/clips/gntg.mp3

    Brilliant!
  • ianvomsaalianvomsaal Posts: 1,224
    Sounds good - keep playing dude.
    Here's a quick hint - don't over-think your solos (remember, bends should be poignant, but not overdone - don't over-bend your bends).
    Also, for clean accurate playing try to alternate pick as much as you can.
    A compression pedal may help even out your notes - I use a boss CS-3.

    Here's a tip for helping with your time fluctuations:
    Play with a metronome on a slower beat like 72bpm - try working on scales or modes at that tempo - try to play every note in time (one note per beat), and only raise the tempo when you can play through the scale/mode cleanly and accurately at that tempo.

    I can send you the Mode diagrams that I give my students for soloing, if you're interested (7 modes, one for each note of the scale).

    When I was in music school I had to play ascending and descending chromatic scales (all alternate picked) at 192bpm (4 notes per beat) while reading Shakespeare - it was an exercise to get my hands working in unison, and help me build independence, and it helped me learn to separate my head from my hands. You can always do a similar exercise to get your hands working well together (but I'd recommend starting at a slower tempo to start with). Just play 4-notes per string E-A-D-G-B-E-E-B-G-D-A-E starting on the 1st fret (up and down), then slide down one fret and continue the scale now starting on the 2nd fret, ect, ect.
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  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    actually yeah, any diagrams or something to guide practice would probably be helpful.

    i've never had any guitar training so i don't have any sort of practice routine which is unfortunately fairly obvious in my playing.

    i've never had, and never will have, fast hands most likely. couldn't play piano very fast either though i took lessons for a long time. but it would be nice to have some form.
  • ianvomsaalianvomsaal Posts: 1,224
    No problem, I'll send over the Scales & Modes Diagram that I give my students (in JPEG).
    Each one is numbered, representing the place in the scale it can be found.
    Each key has a certain amount of #'s or b's (sharps or flats).
    For instance:
    C-Maj has none ( 0 )
    D-Maj has 2 (F# and C#),
    E-Maj has 4 (F#, C#, G#, D#)
    etc, etc, etc . . . . .
    So lets say we want to know what we can play in the Key of E-Major.
    First we think about E-Major's key signature (4 sharps F#, C#, G#, D#).
    Therefore the scale for E-Maj is:
    E - F# - G# - A - B - C# - D# - E
    Every time you get to a note that's sharp in the key signature you make it sharp.
    Soooo . . . as long as you know what's sharp (or flat) in each key signature, and as long as you know the order of the MODES, you know what you can play.
    It just becomes a simple plug and play.
    Therefore in E-Major you can play:
    E Ionian/Major,
    F# Dorian,
    G# Phrygian,
    A Lydian,
    B Mixolydian,
    C# Aeolian/Minor,
    D# Locrian

    This was just an example, but I hope this helps explain how to figure out what to play for each key signature. Let me know if this helps.
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  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    thank you very much.
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