It didn't really say too much bad about the record. I think 6.7 is fine for this record. It isn't great...at...all. It is good. But reserve the 8-10's for more deserving records.
Leeds 2006, London 2007, Hartford 2008, London Shepherds Bush 2009, London O2 2009, Dublin 2010, London Hyde Park 2010, Amsterdam 1 2012, Amsterdam 2 2012, Berlin 1 2012, EV solo London 30/7/2012, Berlin 2014, Stockholm 2014, Milton Keynes 2014, Amsterdam 1 2018, London 1 2018, London 2 2018, EV solo Dublin 2019, London 1 2022, London 2 2022, New York City 2022
If they gave riot act a 4.9 which is absurd, they really must have liked earthling at a 6.7
It’s hard for me to look at a rating by itself but once it’s in context then I get a better idea. They rate most PJ really low so this rating must have something to do with it not sounding as much like PJ
There's literally no rationale behind the scores that Pitchfork gives out. Plus, Pitchfork is a brand and since they're a brand they have a very specific way of approaching things like reviews. Everything they do stinks of whatever random person in their army of writers/reviewers looking for validation. That way, if they're "lucky," they can move on to write self-indulgent garbage for outlets like Vice.
I'm 40 so I'm smack in the middle of the Pitchfork generation. I came of age when they were a serious cultural force in music and will admit they are partially responsible for helping a lot of music get the attention it deserved. They've always, always, always, been a pretentious, self-righteous, "I'm so much cooler than you," outlet.
It's how they came to prominence and it's somehow something they still lean into.
I actually find it hilarious that people still pay attention to anything Pitchfork has to say as they cling to any sense of relevance they still might have.
Its always funny how p4k lives rent free in so many music fans heads. Its no different than any other publication and unless you were a fan of Jet, they haven't really written many pretentious pieces over the past 15 years. Most of the time, its just hungry freelancers. Plus its just 1 persons opinion and an editorials staffs score.
Pitchfork is pitchfork. They’re very Predictable —Radiohead, LCD Soundsystem, pop and hip hop are guaranteed 8.8’s and higher (fair in a lot of cases) but I think everyone knows that.
If PJ or EV released something that qualified for a high score this forum probably wouldn’t even like the album. It makes me laugh tho how they’ve “corrected” a lot of poor scores for bands that turned into revered bands.
Pitchfork is pitchfork. They’re very Predictable —Radiohead, LCD Soundsystem, pop and hip hop are guaranteed 8.8’s and higher (fair in a lot of cases) but I think everyone knows that.
If PJ or EV released something that qualified for a high score this forum probably wouldn’t even like the album. It makes me laugh tho how they’ve “corrected” a lot of poor scores for bands that turned into revered bands.
I think a lot of publications have drastically corrected a few Radiohead albums in particular. I thought I remembered kid a in particular confused a lot of them initially
I know sometimes it takes me a really long time to really understand an album so I give anyone the benefit of the doubt on revisions years after the fact
Say what you want about the collective tastes of Pitchfork's writers (pretty predictable), but they remain a great resource for covering a wide swath of music. If you go there looking for validation that your own tastes are "good" (whatever that would mean), don't read any review site, let alone Pitchfork. But because they write about so much music - regardless of what they say about said music - its great place to find new stuff.
Don't worry so much that their writers don't love your favorite band the way you do. Who cares.
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2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2 2018-06-18 London 1 2018-08-18 Wrigley 1 2018-08-20 Wrigley 2 2022-09-16 Nashville 2023-08-31 St. Paul 2023-09-02 St. Paul 2023-09-05 Chicago 1 2023-08-31 Wrigley 2 2023-09-15 Fenway 1
LOL. We all said the same thing basically. Great minds think alike.
1998-06-30 Minneapolis
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2 2018-06-18 London 1 2018-08-18 Wrigley 1 2018-08-20 Wrigley 2 2022-09-16 Nashville 2023-08-31 St. Paul 2023-09-02 St. Paul 2023-09-05 Chicago 1 2023-08-31 Wrigley 2 2023-09-15 Fenway 1
Say what you want about the collective tastes of Pitchfork's writers (pretty predictable), but they remain a great resource for covering a wide swath of music. If you go there looking for validation that your own tastes are "good" (whatever that would mean), don't read any review site, let alone Pitchfork. But because they write about so much music - regardless of what they say about said music - its great place to find new stuff.
Don't worry so much that their writers don't love your favorite band the way you do. Who cares.
Amen! I actually read pitchfork once a month or so and I really have checked out and liked some of their Best New Music albums over the years. But….the above is the truth. They’re good for finding new bands but you have to trust your own tastes.
I read pitchfork daily. Its the best way to stay up on whats current/hot. I find so much new and interesting music there, including tons of my favorite artists.
If you look at it as a music discovery outlet, its fantastic.
Say what you want about the collective tastes of Pitchfork's writers (pretty predictable), but they remain a great resource for covering a wide swath of music. If you go there looking for validation that your own tastes are "good" (whatever that would mean), don't read any review site, let alone Pitchfork. But because they write about so much music - regardless of what they say about said music - its great place to find new stuff.
Don't worry so much that their writers don't love your favorite band the way you do. Who cares.
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Leeds 2006, London 2007, Hartford 2008, London Shepherds Bush 2009, London O2 2009, Dublin 2010, London Hyde Park 2010, Amsterdam 1 2012, Amsterdam 2 2012, Berlin 1 2012, EV solo London 30/7/2012, Berlin 2014, Stockholm 2014, Milton Keynes 2014, Amsterdam 1 2018, London 1 2018, London 2 2018, EV solo Dublin 2019, London 1 2022, London 2 2022, New York City 2022
It's how they came to prominence and it's somehow something they still lean into.
I actually find it hilarious that people still pay attention to anything Pitchfork has to say as they cling to any sense of relevance they still might have.
Read it like it deserves to be read - as a joke.
Don't worry so much that their writers don't love your favorite band the way you do. Who cares.
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
2022-09-16 Nashville
2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
2023-08-31 Wrigley 2
2023-09-15 Fenway 1
LOL. We all said the same thing basically. Great minds think alike.
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
2022-09-16 Nashville
2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
2023-08-31 Wrigley 2
2023-09-15 Fenway 1
If you look at it as a music discovery outlet, its fantastic.
There are different reviewers reviewing different albums...