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Songs better live vs. studio and vice versa (only arbitrary, keep it civil!)

bmurray06bmurray06 Austin, Texas Posts: 155
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Bear in mind, I'm not going to complain if I hear any of these songs live or in studio. Sometimes with band's noise babies, though, there's a difference. At least we listen to a band that 99% does better live than studio.

Better Studio Version: Rearviewmirror. Don't get me wrong, love hearing this at any show. On the flipside, Eddie was pressuring Dave A. so much toward the end that you can literally hear the frustration come out with the throwing of the sticks. PURE EMOTION that hasn't always translated in live versions.   Honorable mention: U. It's catchy and it just has the sharp and warm Yield session feel from that time.

Better Live Version: Even Flow. I feel this song gets better live year after year. The studio version is slow and doesn't do it justice. I'll still listen to it from Ten, but every time I do I'm secretly thinking of a live version. Honorable mention: Nothing as it Seems. I dig listening to all of Binaural, but it's taken to a completely different level when PJ are on stage playing it.

Great Live & Studio (apples & oranges): Immortality, Given To Fly, Present Tense & I Got Shit. Nuff Said.

Again, y'all are entitled to your opinions, so let a healthy discussion begin
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,513
    Without thinking too hard…

    Better Studio: Infallible, Sleight of Hand 

    Better Live: Present Tense, Corduroy, 1/2 full, Crazy Mary 

    also depends what decade or year of Ed vocals we are basing it on, but these hold up imo across the whole time since release
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,548
    Save You better live.
    DOTC better live
    Lukin better live.
  • Falling DownFalling Down Posts: 821
    The best of the better studio:

    In My Tree, Force of Nature, Whoever Said 

    The best of the better live:

    Habit, You Are, Insignificance 

    Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
    Toronto 03, 06, 11
    Ottawa 05, 11
    Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
    Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
    Costa Rica 11
    London (Ont.), Hartford 13
    Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
    EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)

  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    Falling Down said:
    The best of the better studio:

    In My Tree, Force of Nature, Whoever Said 

    The best of the better live:

    Habit, You Are, Insignificance 
    Can't argue with this at all.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    Studio "Breath" blows away all versions after 1995. 
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  • DissidentRival74DissidentRival74 Six One Five Posts: 150
    I Got Shit is top of my list for better studio vs. live
    Others that come to mind: Breath and All Those Yesterdays

    As far as live vs studio: i prefer pretty much all of their songs live, but the two that "surprised" me the most when i heard them live in person were All Night and Let the Records play.  
    "I'm only civil because I don't know any swear words."
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,494
    For me, 99.9% of the songs are better live. One song that I do not love live is light years, they seem to struggle with the tempo at times. 
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,398
    Almost all their songs are better live but some of the older songs have new interpretations live. Majority of Ten for me is older live > studio > newer live.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,548
    Of the Girl live is better.
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Of the Girl live is better.
    Oh man, that one was recorded binaurally though. So much atmosphere on that one. Have you listened to the PJ20 instrumental version lately? 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,548
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Of the Girl live is better.
    Oh man, that one was recorded binaurally though. So much atmosphere on that one. Have you listened to the PJ20 instrumental version lately? 
    Have not.  I am not a fan of Binaural at all but Of The Girl is good, live it's even better.

    Know what, it's my white whale I am chasing live.  Never got it in person yet...
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    tempo_n_groove said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Of the Girl live is better.
    Oh man, that one was recorded binaurally though. So much atmosphere on that one. Have you listened to the PJ20 instrumental version lately? 
    Have not.  I am not a fan of Binaural at all but Of The Girl is good, live it's even better.

    Know what, it's my white whale I am chasing live.  Never got it in person yet...
    I was lucky to hear it in St.Louis in 2000 and again in Kansas City in 2010. Both great performances! Grab your best set of headphones and have a listen to that instrumental version! 

    https://open.spotify.com/track/2c6XFgD2kvNjJoxmilRRJK?si=ce916e9757f94ee9

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  • reyrey Monmouth County, NJ Posts: 285
    Wishlist - studio is better than live.  Not only because he can never get the lyrics right live but the studio version just sounds better overall.
  • droptheleash9droptheleash9 Posts: 1,440
    Generally, pretty much all of their stuff is better live. There are a couple that feel like almost completely different songs live.

    Better Live: Elderly Woman Behind the Counter In A Small Town, Corduroy, Yellow Ledbetter, Present Tense, Hard to Imagine
    Better Studio: Getaway, Faithful, Brother, Off He Goes, All or None 
  • GibsonGibson Toronto Posts: 2,654
    edited January 2022
    Of what I'm not seeing mentioned...

    Studio: Indifference

    Live: Immortality

    Indifference seems to lose its deepness/darkness/eeriness when performed live (although it's still an incredible tune) and Immortality live comes across with a feeling of intensity that I just can't describe.
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  • Kearn5yKearn5y Ireland Posts: 2,971
    Better Studio: Smile, Sleight of Hand, Hard to Imagine, Hold On. Need to play the last 2 more often.
    Better Live: Yellow Ledbetter, Pendulum

    Off the Girl is equally brilliant live and studio
    Kearnsy
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,708
    Most of my PJ listening originates from PJ radio on SiriusXM when I am driving.  It always sounds weird to me when they play a studio track since I am now so used to hearing mostly live versions.
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    Gibson said:
    Of what I'm not seeing mentioned...

    Studio: Indifference

    Live: Immortality

    Indifference seems to lose its deepness/darkness/eeriness when performed live (although it's still an incredible tune) and Immortality live comes across with a feeling of intensity that I just can't describe.
    Can you imagine if they went a different route with the studio solo for Immortality? I love the LP version don't get me wrong, but good lord, I could listen to just about every live version of that song from 1995 on. 
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,384
    Live: Porch

    Studio: Yellow Ledbetter
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,555
    edited January 2022
    DissidentRival74 said:
    I Got Shit is top of my list for better studio vs. live
    Others that come to mind: Breath and All Those Yesterdays

    As far as live vs studio: i prefer pretty much all of their songs live, but the two that "surprised" me the most when i heard them live in person were All Night and Let the Records play.  
    I Got Id was the first to come to mind. Top 10 studio song for me. Just okay live.
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    mace1229 said:
    DissidentRival74 said:
    I Got Shit is top of my list for better studio vs. live
    Others that come to mind: Breath and All Those Yesterdays

    As far as live vs studio: i prefer pretty much all of their songs live, but the two that "surprised" me the most when i heard them live in person were All Night and Let the Records play.  
    I Got Id was the first to come to mind. Top 10 studio song for me. Just okay live.
    I Got ID! Ed, Jack, NEIL YOUNG, and Brendan O' Brien. Now that's a super group! 
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  • bmurray06bmurray06 Austin, Texas Posts: 155
    mace1229 said:
    DissidentRival74 said:
    I Got Shit is top of my list for better studio vs. live
    Others that come to mind: Breath and All Those Yesterdays

    As far as live vs studio: i prefer pretty much all of their songs live, but the two that "surprised" me the most when i heard them live in person were All Night and Let the Records play.  
    I Got Id was the first to come to mind. Top 10 studio song for me. Just okay live.
    I will say I Got Id sounded great at Ohana live and on the Touring Band 2000 DVD
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    bmurray06 said:
    mace1229 said:
    DissidentRival74 said:
    I Got Shit is top of my list for better studio vs. live
    Others that come to mind: Breath and All Those Yesterdays

    As far as live vs studio: i prefer pretty much all of their songs live, but the two that "surprised" me the most when i heard them live in person were All Night and Let the Records play.  
    I Got Id was the first to come to mind. Top 10 studio song for me. Just okay live.
    I will say I Got Id sounded great at Ohana live and on the Touring Band 2000 DVD
    Yes to both. What an awesome surprise when the opening chords were played at Ohana. It's also one of my favorite PJ songs to play on guitar.
    I LOVE MUSIC.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    mfc2006 said:
    bmurray06 said:
    mace1229 said:
    DissidentRival74 said:
    I Got Shit is top of my list for better studio vs. live
    Others that come to mind: Breath and All Those Yesterdays

    As far as live vs studio: i prefer pretty much all of their songs live, but the two that "surprised" me the most when i heard them live in person were All Night and Let the Records play.  
    I Got Id was the first to come to mind. Top 10 studio song for me. Just okay live.
    I will say I Got Id sounded great at Ohana live and on the Touring Band 2000 DVD
    Yes to both. What an awesome surprise when the opening chords were played at Ohana. It's also one of my favorite PJ songs to play on guitar.
    Very similar to NY's Cinnamon Girl. Also fun to play! 
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  • bmurray06bmurray06 Austin, Texas Posts: 155
    mfc2006 said:
    bmurray06 said:
    mace1229 said:
    DissidentRival74 said:
    I Got Shit is top of my list for better studio vs. live
    Others that come to mind: Breath and All Those Yesterdays

    As far as live vs studio: i prefer pretty much all of their songs live, but the two that "surprised" me the most when i heard them live in person were All Night and Let the Records play.  
    I Got Id was the first to come to mind. Top 10 studio song for me. Just okay live.
    I will say I Got Id sounded great at Ohana live and on the Touring Band 2000 DVD
    Yes to both. What an awesome surprise when the opening chords were played at Ohana. It's also one of my favorite PJ songs to play on guitar.
    Samesies. Try learning it on the ukulele as well. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,727
    no way and all those yesterdays are much better studio, for some reason they can't nail these two live.  
    porch and blood are both better live. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    bmurray06 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    bmurray06 said:
    mace1229 said:
    DissidentRival74 said:
    I Got Shit is top of my list for better studio vs. live
    Others that come to mind: Breath and All Those Yesterdays

    As far as live vs studio: i prefer pretty much all of their songs live, but the two that "surprised" me the most when i heard them live in person were All Night and Let the Records play.  
    I Got Id was the first to come to mind. Top 10 studio song for me. Just okay live.
    I will say I Got Id sounded great at Ohana live and on the Touring Band 2000 DVD
    Yes to both. What an awesome surprise when the opening chords were played at Ohana. It's also one of my favorite PJ songs to play on guitar.
    Samesies. Try learning it on the ukulele as well. 
    Challenge accepted!
    I LOVE MUSIC.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,676
    Studio over live:
    RearViewMirror  - not bad live but absolutely killer studio
    I am Mine -  just never seemed to work live for me - too many guitars maybe
    Gone - really liked the song on studio version but haven't heard a good live version yet



    better live than studio (most songs to me but a few that stand out to me):
    Inside Job - killer live. just ok studio for me
    Do the Evolution - can't get into the studio version
    Not for You - not bad studio but love it live.
    Present Tense - one of the best live in my opinion
    Nothing as it Seems - again not bad studio but really comes across great live to me
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,593
    edited January 2022
    Get_Right said:
    For me, 99.9% of the songs are better live. One song that I do not love live is light years, they seem to struggle with the tempo at times. 
    I feel similarly.   Like them both ways but almost always prefer live versions
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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,902
    Better Live
    Not for you  first time hearing it was live on a bootleg and I never felt Vitalogy did it justice

    RVM mainly the drums going bat shit at the end with strobes

    Elderly women. With the crowd it is unreal

    Black. Unplugged or electic. Fuck yes

    Habit,  ledbetter, presnt tense, supersonic, just breathe, and all night, BUSHLEAGUER, Alive, Lightning Bolt, Grievance,  Got Some, Unthogjtknown, life wasted,  WWS, Inside Job, STBC, Betterman, Immortality, Release 


      Studio preferred:
    Go, In Hiding, Who You Are, Garden, In My Tree, Hard To Imagine,  You Are, DTE,  Infallible, Comeback, satans bed. WMA
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