Does 180gram vinyl matter?

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  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 12,023
    I have a primus 200g seas of cheese. It's solid. May be a bit excessive.
  • halv
    halv Posts: 717
    No.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I only know of Neil Young using 200g. But don’t own any. Would love to feel the weight. 
    I have a couple of Rush remasters on 200G. They sound amazing but no idea if the weight has any bearing on that. But they sure feel good when you pull them out of the sleeve. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited February 2023
    Ukelele Songs felt like 200 gram when I played it yestweday (skipped though :( )But I guess I was not used to 180 after all the 80s kiss-albums on as low grams as possible
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    No.
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I'm bumping this to ask another question --

    -- is 180 gram or not a factor when you decide to buy a LP? Or isn't that a factor in the end o f you picking it up?
    Not a real factor.  If something is avail in 180, great.  But if it's only in 140, that doesn't dissuade me.  The lineage, mastering, engineer and pressing plant are all way more important to the quality.  If you are worried about warping, get a record clamp.  They solve all sorts of problems. 
    Agreed!
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I'm bumping this to ask another question --

    -- is 180 gram or not a factor when you decide to buy a LP? Or isn't that a factor in the end o f you picking it up?
    Not a real factor.  If something is avail in 180, great.  But if it's only in 140, that doesn't dissuade me.  The lineage, mastering, engineer and pressing plant are all way more important to the quality.  If you are worried about warping, get a record clamp.  They solve all sorts of problems. 
    I am getting frustrated with the consistent warping of new 180g vinyl. It is actually dissuading me from purchasing them and looking for lower weight vinyl which is easier to flatten using my vinyl flat. 
    Flattening 180g vinyl is time consuming and quite frankly, not often successful. I ended up creating some (what sounds like) homemade nonfill on my copy of Pharoah Sanders Karma. Only noticeable in between songs. Paid $50 CDN for that record, and it comes warped. Tired of paying top dollar for a defective product. 

    The most confusing part, 180g vinyl was supposed to eliminate the warping issues. 
    I've heard that a lot, especially on the Hoffman music forums.  And that surprised me because I have a few older (mostly 80's) mildly dish-warped LPs that are standard 140 gram, but I don't think I've ever had a warped 200 gram LP.  I must be very lucky that way.
    Loujoe said:
    I have a primus 200g seas of cheese. It's solid. May be a bit excessive.

    Yeah, I have a couple.  Seems like overkill to me.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Loujoe said:
    I have a primus 200g seas of cheese. It's solid. May be a bit excessive.
    Good hunk of cheese
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 12,023
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Loujoe said:
    I have a primus 200g seas of cheese. It's solid. May be a bit excessive.
    Good hunk of cheese
    Mmmhhhmm. Can't wait for you to see FFB. Will be thrilling. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,225
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Loujoe said:
    I have a primus 200g seas of cheese. It's solid. May be a bit excessive.
    Good hunk of cheese

    RUSH's reissues are 200 gram slabs
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Loujoe said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Loujoe said:
    I have a primus 200g seas of cheese. It's solid. May be a bit excessive.
    Good hunk of cheese
    Mmmhhhmm. Can't wait for you to see FFB. Will be thrilling. 
    You damn rights LJ! Can’t wait. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    What's the most grams an album has been? What's the record?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    No.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I'm bumping this to ask another question --

    -- is 180 gram or not a factor when you decide to buy a LP? Or isn't that a factor in the end o f you picking it up?

    Not a factor at all. The weight of a record has never impacted my decision on whether I'd buy an album or not, and in my experience, it makes no difference in terms of sound - some lightweight records sound spectacular, especially from the old days.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,954
    Yes.
    It doesn't impact my decision, but I do have some records from the 90s (the OP of Down on the Upside) that warped, and i'm not sure how.   The extra thickness reduces warping, but it's not a dealbreaker.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    edited February 2023
    No.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What's the most grams an album has been? What's the record?

    30,000 kilos:
    Behold the worlds largest vinyl record - The Vinyl Factory

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • monkeewrench
    monkeewrench Posts: 949
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I'm bumping this to ask another question --

    -- is 180 gram or not a factor when you decide to buy a LP? Or isn't that a factor in the end o f you picking it up?
    Not a real factor.  If something is avail in 180, great.  But if it's only in 140, that doesn't dissuade me.  The lineage, mastering, engineer and pressing plant are all way more important to the quality.  If you are worried about warping, get a record clamp.  They solve all sorts of problems. 

    Unless you have a Rega TT - a clamp is useless on a Rega TT if the record is 180g.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Yes.
    monkeewrench said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I'm bumping this to ask another question --

    -- is 180 gram or not a factor when you decide to buy a LP? Or isn't that a factor in the end o f you picking it up?
    Not a real factor.  If something is avail in 180, great.  But if it's only in 140, that doesn't dissuade me.  The lineage, mastering, engineer and pressing plant are all way more important to the quality.  If you are worried about warping, get a record clamp.  They solve all sorts of problems. 

    Unless you have a Rega TT - a clamp is useless on a Rega TT if the record is 180g.
    Is your spindle too short?  I've been telling you for years that 8" is not what you think it is.  

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