Official EV Earthling Tour Lottery & Verified Fan Freak Out Thread

ChrisdM

I hadn't bought a ticket through TM in a long time, so was unfamiliar with what exactly Official Platinum tickets are. I just read the TM help page with the details on it... Man, that sounds really shitty.
https://help.ticketmaster.com/s/article/What-are-Official-Platinum-Seats?language=en_US
"...similar to how airline tickets and hotel rooms are sold. The goal is to give the most passionate fans fair and safe access to the best tickets, while enabling artists and other people involved in staging live events to price tickets closer to their true market value."

I'm sure this has already been discussed at length and am late to the party on this topic, but am bummed to read about this practice.

ruffdog

Hopped Up said:

ruffdog said:

What were the cheapest seats for Chicago on the Verified sale? Just curious as I didn't get verified so can't see pricing, but do see some Gallery tix available. Would LOVE to get my hands on those!

Appears Gallery tix for Verified Fan presale are $129.50 plus fees.  Ouch, that's steep for a seat that high up.  Auditorium has amazing acoustics, but that's still far away.  Looked at my 2008 receipt for EV there and it was $88 for decent balcony seats.

I get it that it's a rare show, but yeah that is steep for a seat that high up. That being said, if anyone has a pair for face value on Night 1 or 2, please consider helping a local Chicago fan out (me and my wife). I'd consider trading my 10c N1 single seat in row Y for a pair on either night...as long as we are working in a face value (not platinum) structure (I NEVER buy or sell over face).  

Hopped Up

What's annoying is that the Platinum prices are above what you can pay on StubHub so TM's algorithm isn't reflecting true market values.  Oh, well, there's 8,000 seats over the 2 nights in Chicago so I expect prices will come down closer to February, either on TM or on StubHub.  Still lots of pairs for night 2 on TM at the inflated Platinum prices (Stubhub has rear balcony for night 2 at $300 each after fees while TM is still over $400 each + fees in balcony).

Hopped Up

Any idea from previous onsales on this tour if the face value singles ever get released from the Verified Fan pool?  I got waitlisted and seems like the VF folks have all had an hour to scoop up these singles so wonder if they'll be put in the general onsale or if I have any hope of getting off the Waitlist.

ddeschler

Anyone have a VF code they don't plan to use?  Still some singles left.

ruffdog

Hopped Up said:

Any idea from previous onsales on this tour if the face value singles ever get released from the Verified Fan pool?  I got waitlisted and seems like the VF folks have all had an hour to scoop up these singles so wonder if they'll be put in the general onsale or if I have any hope of getting off the Waitlist.

I've only seen Platinum besides a few VF that popped up closer to on sale time. Don't hold your breath.

Abe Froman

MBLCRC row J through lottery.  Costly, but should be a good time!

OceansJenny

Hopped Up said:

ruffdog said:

What were the cheapest seats for Chicago on the Verified sale? Just curious as I didn't get verified so can't see pricing, but do see some Gallery tix available. Would LOVE to get my hands on those!

Appears Gallery tix for Verified Fan presale are $129.50 plus fees.  Ouch, that's steep for a seat that high up.  Auditorium has amazing acoustics, but that's still far away.  Looked at my 2008 receipt for EV there and it was $88 for decent balcony seats.

Stubhub will have that seat for $300. Whether they can sell it at that price is another story.

ddeschler

There's still a single available 3 hrs after the sale began, but I can't get it because I was put on the "wait list" for VF.  Denied in the 10C sale, and can't get a VF code.  And can't get off this pretend wait list, even though there's still a ticket there.  What a terrible system!  Being in bed with these TM scumbags is just dirty. 

Hopped Up

Amazing how many of the balcony seats were classified as Platinum.  Bottom pic is the last one so they appear to be adding to the Platinum seats.  Annoying that those on Waitlist never get a crack at seats at normal price when so many tickets are classified as Platinum (and which are priced higher than StubHub so don't even sell on day tickets go onsale).

Hopped Up

Pair in Middle Balcony for Chicago Night 2 on TM is $1,100 but on StubHub similar pair is $600.  So stupid that they allocate so many to Platinum pricing that isn't market based.  Chicago Night 1 also has middle balcony on StubHub also for $600/pair.  I imagine it's a LiveNation decision and they're just hoping to rope some people in at exorbitant prices who either aren't aware of or don't trust StubHub, but these onsales have gotten really silly with so many seats classified as "Platinum" which doesn't even include any in Orchestra (which thankfully appear to mostly be allocated to 10C).

ChrisdM

Hopped Up said:

Amazing how many of the balcony seats were classified as Platinum.  Bottom pic is the last one so they appear to be adding to the Platinum seats.  Annoying that those on Waitlist never get a crack at seats at normal price when so many tickets are classified as Platinum (and which are priced higher than StubHub so don't even sell on day tickets go onsale).

Yep... A total cash grab from TM. It's like they're saying, "How can we get even more money out of these seats?"
More should have gone at face value to VF/waitlist folks than put into Platinum Seats. Not cool.

Bentleyspop

ChrisdM said:

Hopped Up said:

Amazing how many of the balcony seats were classified as Platinum.  Bottom pic is the last one so they appear to be adding to the Platinum seats.  Annoying that those on Waitlist never get a crack at seats at normal price when so many tickets are classified as Platinum (and which are priced higher than StubHub so don't even sell on day tickets go onsale).

Yep... A total cash grab from TM. It's like they're saying, "How can we get even more money out of these seats?"
More should have gone at face value to VF/waitlist folks than put into Platinum Seats. Not cool.

TM gets a fee. Usually 20%.
The bulk of the ticket income goes to the promoter and the artist. In this case Eddie Vedder.

Zod

Damn, I just had an upgrade in my cart. Night 1 seattle tickets for $400 USD, which was cheaper than the $500USD I paid for row 30ish.  TM cart kicked me out at the end because it said I exceeded the limit for that night. I guess I ordered the first pair using my cc on my wife's TM account.  System seems pretty clever :(

Plat system jacked them up to 755 after I failed

Maybe it's for the best.  Getting a bad feeling these shows won't happen or I'll have a super hard time crossing the border.

tdawe

A handful more insanely overpriced Platinum tickets available for both NYC nights. 

tschav

And a few in the second row for both Chicago shows @ $1110 after fees

Eddieredder

Bentleyspop said:

ChrisdM said:

Hopped Up said:

Amazing how many of the balcony seats were classified as Platinum.  Bottom pic is the last one so they appear to be adding to the Platinum seats.  Annoying that those on Waitlist never get a crack at seats at normal price when so many tickets are classified as Platinum (and which are priced higher than StubHub so don't even sell on day tickets go onsale).

Yep... A total cash grab from TM. It's like they're saying, "How can we get even more money out of these seats?"
More should have gone at face value to VF/waitlist folks than put into Platinum Seats. Not cool.

TM gets a fee. Usually 20%.
The bulk of the ticket income goes to the promoter and the artist. In this case Eddie Vedder.

Its all of these things. But you have to consider platinum seats are also a way to subsidize the other seats (VF and fan club). Also consider they lose the resale revenue (which has to be huge).

Also consider that TM and the promoter are generally one in the same these days. They might also own the venue too. So thats three shares of $ to the same company.

The overall cost of events needs to back out one way or another. Cost = Band fee + TM + venue + promoter + misc

No resale $? Fan club pricing? VF pricing? Its going to balance out.  

Bentleyspop

Eddieredder said:

Bentleyspop said:

ChrisdM said:

Hopped Up said:

Amazing how many of the balcony seats were classified as Platinum.  Bottom pic is the last one so they appear to be adding to the Platinum seats.  Annoying that those on Waitlist never get a crack at seats at normal price when so many tickets are classified as Platinum (and which are priced higher than StubHub so don't even sell on day tickets go onsale).

Yep... A total cash grab from TM. It's like they're saying, "How can we get even more money out of these seats?"
More should have gone at face value to VF/waitlist folks than put into Platinum Seats. Not cool.

TM gets a fee. Usually 20%.
The bulk of the ticket income goes to the promoter and the artist. In this case Eddie Vedder.

Its all of these things. But you have to consider platinum seats are also a way to subsidize the other seats (VF and fan club). Also consider they lose the resale revenue (which has to be huge).

Also consider that TM and the promoter are generally one in the same these days. They might also own the venue too. So thats three shares of $ to the same company.

The overall cost of events needs to back out one way or another. Cost = Band fee + TM + venue + promoter + misc

No resale $? Fan club pricing? VF pricing? Its going to balance out.  

Pricing does not happen in a vacuum. 
The artist has to sign off on pricing.

Complaints need to be spread to...

Artist
Promoter 
TM
Venue
Etc

OceansJenny

They are trying to cash in on last minute Xmas presents. 

Wait until after the holidays and I bet there will be people needing to sell singles/pairs.

JOEJOEJOE

TM just added more platinum seats for Los Angeles....very close seats ranging from $700 to $955 in the first ten rows.  Sucks that they are taking the fun out of checking for face value ticket releases.