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Infrastructure Bill Discussion

brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619

A "duh" moment.  If you build a thread, they will come.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/06/joe-biden-infrastructure-bill-democrats-monumental-step-forward

Biden hails ‘monumental step forward’ as Democrats pass infrastructure bill

The president will sign $1tn package into law after House ended months-long standoff by approving bipartisan deal

Joe Biden saluted a “monumental step forward as a nation” on Saturday, after House Democrats finally reached agreement and sent a $1tn infrastructure package to his desk to be signed, a huge boost for an administration which has struggled for victories.

“This is a blue-collar blueprint to rebuild America,” Biden said, “and it’s long overdue.”

There was also a setback, however, as Democrats postponed a vote on an even larger bill. That 10-year, $1.85tn spending plan to bolster health, family and climate change programmes, known as Build Back Better, was sidetracked after centrists demanded a cost estimate from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). Biden said he was confident he could get it passed.

Walking out to address reporters at the White House, the president began with a joke at the expense of his predecessor, Donald Trump.

“Finally, it’s infrastructure week,” he said.


more at link


And from Heather Cox Richards letter this evening, no, Republicans, it is NOT "socialism":


Lincoln, who first articulated the principles of the Republican Party, and under whom the party invented the American income tax, the “legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves---in their separate, and individual capacities.” Those things included, he wrote, “public roads and highways, public schools, charities, pauperism, orphanage, estates of the deceased, and the machinery of government itself.”



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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    OK, fine then.  Don't talk about it! 
    The first person to post here owes me a brand new copy of any vinyl LP of my choice.  Why?  Because I said so!  :lol: 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    Nanner, nanner.  I was the first one to post here.  I get to buy myself a new LP! 
    :joy:
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 9,536
    I’ll comment.  I have no idea whats in it...its probably load with pork barrel spending.

     But I’ll say this.  If the bill does include mass investment in electrified rail whether it be high speed or not.

    If it does not, then I guess Greta and her friends are right...Its just talk


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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    Annnnnnnd there off....
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  • static111static111 Posts: 2,944
    We need to update for sure and I hope there are already plans in place to expand green energy and rails.  Hopefully it doesn't become a money sink that results in a few patched potholes and bridges to nowhere.  I am for now very hopeful that it is going to be a great program that does what it has been sold to us as doing. Updating the infrastructure and created good paying jobs.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,220
    aside from the usual roads and bridge replacements, whats critical in this bill is the monies for beginning to update water infrastructure and expansion of broadband to rural communities
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    static111 said:
    We need to update for sure and I hope there are already plans in place to expand green energy and rails.  Hopefully it doesn't become a money sink that results in a few patched potholes and bridges to nowhere.  I am for now very hopeful that it is going to be a great program that does what it has been sold to us as doing. Updating the infrastructure and created good paying jobs.

    I'm concerned about this possibly being a money sink as well.  On the plus side, it will create jobs, make badly needed repairs in transportation, terribly old and crumbling power grid in much of the country, hopefully ground power stations to avoid the disastrous  results of a Carrington type event, and improve rail service. 
    Improving and refurbishing existing railroads is, I believe, one of the most important aspects of this spending bill.  We hear all this talk about global warming yet do little to slow it down.  Here's a chance to do something positive in that direction.  Railroads use the least amount of energy per weight and distance measurements than any other form of transportation.  Rails systems are far more efficient energy-wise than trucking, automotive and shipping.  A revitalized rail system makes tons of sense and I hope the powers that be recognize this. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    mickeyrat said:
    aside from the usual roads and bridge replacements, whats critical in this bill is the monies for beginning to update water infrastructure and expansion of broadband to rural communities

    Yes!  And I understand some of the money will be used for Great Lakes restoration.  Good thing!
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  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 23,893
    Jeez, are you five? Give people a chance to think, process, etc.

    As far as creating jobs…am I missing something, or aren’t we already at a shortage of employees? Do more jobs need to be created, or existing ones tweaked?

    I take pretty much every promise from a politician and these so called amazing bills with a shitload of salt. 

    Hopefully the money isn’t wasted. Then again, we can always print more :lol:
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    edited November 7
    hedonist said:
    Jeez, are you five? 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 9,536
    brianlux said:
    Annnnnnnd there off....
    Lmao...
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,220


    WASHINGTON (AP) — The $1 trillion infrastructure plan that now goes to President Joe Biden to sign into law has money for roads, bridges, ports, rail transit, safe water, the power grid, broadband internet and more.

    The House passed the bipartisan plan Friday night and Biden said Saturday he will hold a signing ceremony when lawmakers return from a week’s recess.

    The new law promises to reach almost every corner of the country. It’s a historic investment that the president has compared to the building of the transcontinental railroad and Interstate Highway System. The White House is projecting that the investments will add, on average, about 2 million jobs per year over the coming decade.

    The bill cleared the House on a 228-206 vote, ending weeks of intraparty negotiations in which liberal Democrats insisted the legislation be tied to a larger, $1.75 trillion social spending bill — an effort to press more moderate Democrats to support both.

    The Senate passed the legislation on a 69-30 vote in August after rare bipartisan negotiations, and the House kept that compromise intact. Thirteen House Republicans voted for the bill, giving Democrats more than enough votes to overcome a handful of defections from progressives.

    Here’s a breakdown of the bill:

    ROADS AND BRIDGES

    The bill would provide $110 billion to repair the nation’s aging highways, bridges and roads. According to the White House, 173,000 total miles or nearly 280,000 kilometers of America’s highways and major roads and 45,000 bridges are in poor condition. And the almost $40 billion for bridges is the single largest dedicated bridge investment since the construction of the national highway system, according to the Biden administration.

    PUBLIC TRANSIT

    The $39 billion for public transit in the legislation would expand transportation systems, improve accessibility for people with disabilities and provide dollars to state and local governments to buy zero-emission and low-emission buses. The Transportation Department estimates that the current repair backlog is more than 24,000 buses, 5,000 rail cars, 200 stations and thousands of miles of track and power systems.

    PASSENGER AND FREIGHT RAIL

    To reduce Amtrak’s maintenance backlog, which has worsened since Superstorm Sandy nine years ago, the bill would provide $66 billion to improve the rail service’s Northeast Corridor (457 miles, 735 km), as well as other routes. It’s less than the $80 billion Biden — who famously rode Amtrak from Delaware to Washington during his time in the Senate — originally asked for, but it would be the largest federal investment in passenger rail service since Amtrak was founded 50 years ago.

    ELECTRIC VEHICLES

    The bill would spend $7.5 billion for electric vehicle charging stations, which the administration says are critical to accelerating the use of electric vehicles to curb climate change. It would also provide $5 billion for the purchase of electric school buses and hybrids, reducing reliance on school buses that run on diesel fuel.

    INTERNET ACCESS

    The legislation’s $65 billion for broadband access would aim to improve internet services for rural areas, low-income families and tribal communities. Most of the money would be made available through grants to states.

    MODERNIZING THE ELECTRIC GRID

    To protect against the power outages that have become more frequent in recent years, the bill would spend $65 billion to improve the reliability and resiliency of the power grid. It would also boost carbon capture technologies and more environmentally friendly electricity sources like clean hydrogen.

    AIRPORTS

    The bill would spend $25 billion to improve runways, gates and taxiways at airports and to improve terminals. It would also improve aging air traffic control towers.

    WATER AND WASTEWATER

    The legislation would spend $55 billion on water and wastewater infrastructure. It has $15 billion to replace lead pipes and $10 billion to address water contamination from polyfluoroalkyl substances — chemicals that were used in the production of Teflon and have also been used in firefighting foam, water-repellent clothing and many other items.

    PAYING FOR IT

    The five-year spending package would be paid for by tapping $210 billion in unspent COVID-19 relief aid and $53 billion in unemployment insurance aid some states have halted, along with an array of smaller pots of money, like petroleum reserve sales and spectrum auctions for 5G services.


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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 6,434
    Here's the issue I have with this bill and why I haven't commented on it. I really don't know what is in it, and I don't think anyone does. I've seen the same numbers posted above, but that only totals around $450 billion. SO where's the other 750 billion? I just think its dumb to pass a bill thats 2700 pages when I assume no one read it all. 
    Maybe it is all good things, but this is also when stupid money gets spent and people wonder why and its gets pointed back to a foot note in a bill. 
    Its not just this bill, but I don't understad why its common practice to pass such large bills with the expectation that everyone who is voting hasn't even read it. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,046
    I’ll admit I don’t know all the details, but this first infrastructure bill seems like the no brainer.

    If we are still bitching about infrastructure after it’s spent then I’ll have a problem 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,201
    mickeyrat said:
    aside from the usual roads and bridge replacements, whats critical in this bill is the monies for beginning to update water infrastructure and expansion of broadband to rural communities
    maybe flint can finally get potable water.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,220
    mace1229 said:
    Here's the issue I have with this bill and why I haven't commented on it. I really don't know what is in it, and I don't think anyone does. I've seen the same numbers posted above, but that only totals around $450 billion. SO where's the other 750 billion? I just think its dumb to pass a bill thats 2700 pages when I assume no one read it all. 
    Maybe it is all good things, but this is also when stupid money gets spent and people wonder why and its gets pointed back to a foot note in a bill. 
    Its not just this bill, but I don't understad why its common practice to pass such large bills with the expectation that everyone who is voting hasn't even read it. 

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3684

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 6,434
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here's the issue I have with this bill and why I haven't commented on it. I really don't know what is in it, and I don't think anyone does. I've seen the same numbers posted above, but that only totals around $450 billion. SO where's the other 750 billion? I just think its dumb to pass a bill thats 2700 pages when I assume no one read it all. 
    Maybe it is all good things, but this is also when stupid money gets spent and people wonder why and its gets pointed back to a foot note in a bill. 
    Its not just this bill, but I don't understad why its common practice to pass such large bills with the expectation that everyone who is voting hasn't even read it. 

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3684

    That link doesn’t really do much. You can’t summarize 2700 pages into a couple bullet points.
    Everything in it may be great. I’m just not a fan of the practice of huge bills where almost no one has read it when they vote. Did this bill really need to be 2700 pages? If not, what is being snuck in?  If it does, then maybe chunk it into a few bills they can actually read.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    mace1229 said:
    Here's the issue I have with this bill and why I haven't commented on it. I really don't know what is in it, and I don't think anyone does. I've seen the same numbers posted above, but that only totals around $450 billion. SO where's the other 750 billion? I just think its dumb to pass a bill thats 2700 pages when I assume no one read it all. 
    Maybe it is all good things, but this is also when stupid money gets spent and people wonder why and its gets pointed back to a foot note in a bill. 
    Its not just this bill, but I don't understad why its common practice to pass such large bills with the expectation that everyone who is voting hasn't even read it. 

    I have to admit, with this bill I am a bit running on faith.  That said, I have no doubt some of this money will be wasted.  It's government and government is not particularly well known for good budgeting practices.  If government budgeted as well as some of us do (not to brag, but myself included) it would go a lot better.  But here's the thing: they're going to spend the money anyway.  And if they spend it on things that improve life for us and provide jobs and maybe some clean water for folks, I'd rather see them over spend on things like that than over-spend on bombs and space wars and rockets to Mars and other such crap. 
    And if they blow this one, it's going to come back on the Democrats and I don't think they want that to happen.  My guess, this well help many people, and many people will be happier.  That's my hope anyway. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 29,172
    It’s really not that difficult to see what’s in the bill. All you need to do is spend a little time utilizing the transparent method our congress puts out there for you to do so. Micky posted a link and within 5 minutes I could see where the money goes and how much. Do I know all the ins and outs of every reference and what strings are attached? No, of course not. That requires me to be an engaged citizen and do more reading and research, all available online. You could also call your representatives and ask them to send you a list of how much and what for for your state. Interns love putting that together. Or, relying upon the media, both fake news and social, and maybe being misinformed or remaining ignorant. Choices. Effort. Engagement. Attention. Excuses. Lack of or abundance of, depending, is what’s wrong with this country.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3684/text

    Forest Service and Fish and Game are getting $20-$30M (Mid $20s to mid $30s) each a year for several years. States are getting block grants for transportation infrastructure. S.D. is getting $2.6B despite their complete congressional delegation voting against the bill. That money should be slow walked.

    Point being, bottom line, if you really want to know what’s in the bill, you can find out. It’s not that difficult.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 6,434
    edited November 10
    It’s really not that difficult to see what’s in the bill. All you need to do is spend a little time utilizing the transparent method our congress puts out there for you to do so. Micky posted a link and within 5 minutes I could see where the money goes and how much. Do I know all the ins and outs of every reference and what strings are attached? No, of course not. That requires me to be an engaged citizen and do more reading and research, all available online. You could also call your representatives and ask them to send you a list of how much and what for for your state. Interns love putting that together. Or, relying upon the media, both fake news and social, and maybe being misinformed or remaining ignorant. Choices. Effort. Engagement. Attention. Excuses. Lack of or abundance of, depending, is what’s wrong with this country.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3684/text

    Forest Service and Fish and Game are getting $20-$30M (Mid $20s to mid $30s) each a year for several years. States are getting block grants for transportation infrastructure. S.D. is getting $2.6B despite their complete congressional delegation voting against the bill. That money should be slow walked.

    Point being, bottom line, if you really want to know what’s in the bill, you can find out. It’s not that difficult.
    I don’t see how unless you read the 2700 pages you’ll know all the ins and outs of the plan. I’m not saying that makes it bad, just said I don’t like how that seems to be normal for government. Pass giant bills that people don’t read. I think Brian said it well. It’s government, so some of it will be wasted. We just have to have faith most of it won’t.

    And I completely disagree with withholding funds for districts who’s representatives voted against it. They still pay taxes and fund the government. Just because their representative disagreed with how to spend money doesn’t mean their infrastructure should suffer. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 29,225
    NYC and Amtrak will see a bunch of this money.  Fixing 100yo tunnels and building a new one.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,201
    people seem to think that bridges and roads build and repair themselves.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 29,225
    people seem to think that bridges and roads build and repair themselves.
    That $20 bill that you pay every time you go over the Varazano is supposed to do that actually.

    The 2 million commuters a day that pay $2.50 for a ride in the subway, same thing.

    How much money gets syphoned into peoples pockets is anyone's guess.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,220

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 29,225
    mickeyrat said:

    This guy is spot on for the numbers from what I've read.

    On The Squad voting against it?  optics aren't good but they are being 100% honest w their constituents on "why" they voted against it.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    How strange that nothing has been said here today about the signing of the infrastructure bill.  Ah!  But now there has been.

    This is going to do a number of things beside starting to fix a very crumbly infrastructure.  It will help get clean water to more folks.  Clean up a lot of pollution.  Create lots of new jobs.  And maybe, just maybe, give people fewer things to bitch about. 
    Yeah, I know, Trumpsters will still complain.  But with things rolling better, they're going to start to look weak and be easier to ignore.  Especially if you live in a blue town and not a red one like mine. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 29,225
    brianlux said:
    How strange that nothing has been said here today about the signing of the infrastructure bill.  Ah!  But now there has been.

    This is going to do a number of things beside starting to fix a very crumbly infrastructure.  It will help get clean water to more folks.  Clean up a lot of pollution.  Create lots of new jobs.  And maybe, just maybe, give people fewer things to bitch about. 
    Yeah, I know, Trumpsters will still complain.  But with things rolling better, they're going to start to look weak and be easier to ignore.  Especially if you live in a blue town and not a red one like mine. 
    Brian I mentioned earlier that a bunch of this money is going to Amtrak and the Subways here.  There will be a lot of work for people in the City and good paying Union jobs.  This won't effect our company for 2 years down the road but we will surely have some part of it when it does.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 35,619
    brianlux said:
    How strange that nothing has been said here today about the signing of the infrastructure bill.  Ah!  But now there has been.

    This is going to do a number of things beside starting to fix a very crumbly infrastructure.  It will help get clean water to more folks.  Clean up a lot of pollution.  Create lots of new jobs.  And maybe, just maybe, give people fewer things to bitch about. 
    Yeah, I know, Trumpsters will still complain.  But with things rolling better, they're going to start to look weak and be easier to ignore.  Especially if you live in a blue town and not a red one like mine. 
    Brian I mentioned earlier that a bunch of this money is going to Amtrak and the Subways here.  There will be a lot of work for people in the City and good paying Union jobs.  This won't effect our company for 2 years down the road but we will surely have some part of it when it does.

    Excellent!  I am hoping some funds will be put to use refurbishing some of our existing cargo railway systems as well as people transit.  One of the smartest things we could do for both our economy and environment would be to revitalize our rail systems.  There is so much logic in doing this.  It should be a major priority be it gets very little mention.
    In any case, I'm glad to hear you mass transit systems will get a boost!
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 29,225
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    How strange that nothing has been said here today about the signing of the infrastructure bill.  Ah!  But now there has been.

    This is going to do a number of things beside starting to fix a very crumbly infrastructure.  It will help get clean water to more folks.  Clean up a lot of pollution.  Create lots of new jobs.  And maybe, just maybe, give people fewer things to bitch about. 
    Yeah, I know, Trumpsters will still complain.  But with things rolling better, they're going to start to look weak and be easier to ignore.  Especially if you live in a blue town and not a red one like mine. 
    Brian I mentioned earlier that a bunch of this money is going to Amtrak and the Subways here.  There will be a lot of work for people in the City and good paying Union jobs.  This won't effect our company for 2 years down the road but we will surely have some part of it when it does.

    Excellent!  I am hoping some funds will be put to use refurbishing some of our existing cargo railway systems as well as people transit.  One of the smartest things we could do for both our economy and environment would be to revitalize our rail systems.  There is so much logic in doing this.  It should be a major priority be it gets very little mention.
    In any case, I'm glad to hear you mass transit systems will get a boost!
    So that article I owe you?  On the radio it mentioned building better aqueducts so the water isn't lost in the ground and more of it actually travels where it needs to go.  So they would build proper pipe/concrete travelways for the water.
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