Dead Man

dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
Okay, so I have always thought that this was one of the coolest songs on 'Lost Dogs'. I love how it's another one of those songs that is just Eddie and it gives off such a cool, melancholy like feel with it's monotone sound. I just fell in love with it.
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  • sj.brodiesj.brodie Posts: 468
    couldn't agree more, this song sounds so eerie when Ed does a pre-show performance of it. Here's a link (scroll down to number 418)

    http://www.f4kin-up.net/fullmp3.asp?P=8

    Ed at his intense best!
  • beautiful and sad song.

    hey, i'm not american, and i feel incredibly amazed about the american laws on the death penalty - this is, i'm against the capital punishment in all cases.
    so i'd like to read about your (american or non-american) points of view on this subject...



    sorry for the bad english... please correct anything wrong...
    Real People have no Colour
    Real Love has no Gender
    Real Beliefs have no Religion

    Real Human Beings don't Hate. Please don't Discriminate.
  • yeah...the song is so sad but soooooo powerful! I just love it!
    En mi vida,
    el oscuro me mantiene
    cuando yo te vi
    en la lluvia me prometiste tu sangre

    Estrella de la mañana
    Samael te persigo a ti
    y si me quedo sin alas
    ademas me muero por ti
  • beautiful and sad song.

    hey, i'm not american, and i feel incredibly amazed about the american laws on the death penalty - this is, i'm against the capital punishment in all cases.
    so i'd like to read about your (american or non-american) points of view on this subject...



    sorry for the bad english... please correct anything wrong...

    Can't say that I share the same views, but it is a pretty cool song.
    Oh he fills it up with the love of a girl...
  • et21et21 Posts: 112
    If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.
    I surfaced and all of my being was enlightened.
  • korbykorby Posts: 298
    have you ever done anything wrong ? and needed forgivness, but was unforgiving ?

    so i dub the the unforgiven
    its ok
  • JamalJamal Posts: 2,115
    et21 wrote:
    If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.
    Murder vs. manslaughter

    There is quite a big difference.
    Surf little waves big... Charge big waves hard

    - Antwerp '06, Nijmegen '07, Werchter '07
  • et21 wrote:
    If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.


    I disagree. This would mean: spread the wave of aggression to the world...
    I find it hypocritical that the American courtrooms stipulate ''In God We Trust'' on the one hand and on the other execute sb as if he/she isn't one of a God's creatures and thus ignore ''Thou Shall Not Kill'' command. It seems illogical. My moral codex doesn't approve of killing people no matter what they did.
    En mi vida,
    el oscuro me mantiene
    cuando yo te vi
    en la lluvia me prometiste tu sangre

    Estrella de la mañana
    Samael te persigo a ti
    y si me quedo sin alas
    ademas me muero por ti
  • Yes!! It's totally immoral to be in the service of society and representing justice and yet... killing people . No matter what they've done. I think no one has the authority to kill another living thing. And the people who do probably need some kind of support, there's no way a healthy, sane person would harm someone just because, and those who are not healthy and sane should get some help.
    And about that taxes... crap... What about those you're paying and which are being used to finance the war in Iraq? I mean, I'm not an expert on that subject, but I'm smart enough to understand that it's not a war for freedom. And you're paying for it. You're paying your government to kill innocent people who happen to live in a pretty rich country when it comes to oil. What's better, to pay for a genocide or to pay for one murderer (or whatever) who may deserve a second chance?
    Real People have no Colour
    Real Love has no Gender
    Real Beliefs have no Religion

    Real Human Beings don't Hate. Please don't Discriminate.
  • McShadeMcShade Posts: 156
    et21 wrote:
    If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.

    I know that this is a sensitive matter, but I really don't agree with your point of view. What you're saying is "an eye for an eye". Will that lead to something good?
    Personally, sometimes I hear and see things that just make me think that someone shoud be "getting a taste of their own medicine". But that that's what goes through my mind, humans have feelings of rage, of revenge, of anger. It doesn't make it correct, though.
    So, I really don't think that should be an institution in the judicial system
  • ForestBrainForestBrain Posts: 460
    beautiful and sad song.

    hey, i'm not american, and i feel incredibly amazed about the american laws on the death penalty - this is, i'm against the capital punishment in all cases.
    so i'd like to read about your (american or non-american) points of view on this subject...



    sorry for the bad english... please correct anything wrong...
    I'm against it because the same people killing the guy are murderers. AND no person has the right to kill another. I've always thought a good idea would be to take all of the murderers and put them on an inescapable island. Dreaming, I know. But it sounds like the fairest idea.
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • peepspeeps Posts: 79
    sj.brodie wrote:
    couldn't agree more, this song sounds so eerie when Ed does a pre-show performance of it. Here's a link (scroll down to number 418)

    http://www.f4kin-up.net/fullmp3.asp?P=8

    Ed at his intense best!

    haha holy shit. i can't believe that site still exists.
  • I've always loved this song,.. easily one of my favorite lost dogs.
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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    Oh my, they dropped the leash.



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    "Make our day"
  • About the song, I actually didn't like it at first. A while ago I started listening to it, and I think it's amazing. Eddie's voice is incredible.

    About the death penalty, I think that when you kill someone, with every intention of doing so, you deserve to die. If you kill someone by accident or with the intention of harming, but not killing, I don't think death penalty is the answer. But if someone kills in cold blood for no good reason, it is what that person deserves.
    "Don't ever let the truth get it the way of telling a good story"
  • blue rosesblue roses Posts: 49
    yeah...the song is so sad but soooooo powerful! I just love it!
    which one of us doesn't like good and powerful sad songs
    ı love eddie vedder'voice
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I disagree. This would mean: spread the wave of aggression to the world...
    I find it hypocritical that the American courtrooms stipulate ''In God We Trust'' on the one hand and on the other execute sb as if he/she isn't one of a God's creatures and thus ignore ''Thou Shall Not Kill'' command. It seems illogical. My moral codex doesn't approve of killing people no matter what they did.

    If we're gonna quote the Bible and all ... what about "an eye for an eye?"

    ps -- I like the song, though.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • If we're gonna quote the Bible and all ... what about "an eye for an eye?"

    ps -- I like the song, though.

    I haven't read the entire Bible, you probably haven't read it too. It's the easiest thing to do to use a quote without at least checking out its context. But what I remember from religious studies (when I was still in the elementary school lol) is that these 10 commands are like God's law, cannot get higher from that.
    En mi vida,
    el oscuro me mantiene
    cuando yo te vi
    en la lluvia me prometiste tu sangre

    Estrella de la mañana
    Samael te persigo a ti
    y si me quedo sin alas
    ademas me muero por ti
  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    The song is based on the film Dead Man Walking, and bearing that in mind the sparse lyrics in this song are incredible.

    Regardless of opinions for or against the death penalty (including eds), he manages to portray the insignificance, hopelessness and meaninglessness of the actions of a man (from his point of view) waiting to die for crimes he's committed. its disturbingly hopeless and somber.


    "The settling of my every step, inching off of the earth
    is magnified, by the things i've done, the thing that i've become

    Every lift of my hand. coffee cup & back,
    is magnified, by the things i've done, the things ive seen, the things ive caused
    i'm a dead man walking

    the hammer that i once brought down now hovers over me
    casts a shadow, a cross onto me

    the hallways are all mocking me
    what i've become
    they're all mocking me
    i'm a dead man walking
    a dead man walking
    a dead man walking

    i'm a dead man walking
    a dead man walking
    a dead man walking"
  • et21 wrote:
    If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.
    Don't you think about the pain of the families and friends of the murderer? Why add sorrow to sorrow? The victim's family is already fucked up, why screw another family?
    Inhumane is taking somebody's life, justice cannot do that!
    "Come on people now, smile on your brother and everybody get together, try to love one another right now!!!!"
    "You my friend, I will defend and if we change, well I love you anyway"
    "I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine, I AM MINE"
  • lephtylephty Posts: 770
    you know whats funny? from my experience, most people that are pro-life are also pro-execution...

    and it also seems that pro-choice people tend to be against execution...
  • lephty wrote:
    you know whats funny? from my experience, most people that are pro-life are also pro-execution...

    and it also seems that pro-choice people tend to be against execution...

    Great Point !! How odd.

    I don't really know how I feel about execution..... but miscarriages of justice happen.
  • NothingW.NothingW. Posts: 19
    I disagree. This would mean: spread the wave of aggression to the world...
    I find it hypocritical that the American courtrooms stipulate ''In God We Trust'' on the one hand and on the other execute sb as if he/she isn't one of a God's creatures and thus ignore ''Thou Shall Not Kill'' command. It seems illogical. My moral codex doesn't approve of killing people no matter what they did.

    it's like Eddie ironically says: I can kill cause in God I trust...
    Cause the man of the hour is taking his final bow
    Goodbye for now.
  • dustdust Posts: 133
    Life is sacred, there is no justification for capital punishment.
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