Dead Man

dcfaithful

Okay, so I have always thought that this was one of the coolest songs on 'Lost Dogs'. I love how it's another one of those songs that is just Eddie and it gives off such a cool, melancholy like feel with it's monotone sound. I just fell in love with it.

sj.brodie

couldn't agree more, this song sounds so eerie when Ed does a pre-show performance of it. Here's a link (scroll down to number 418)

http://www.f4kin-up.net/fullmp3.asp?P=8

Ed at his intense best!

I.m.Still.Alive

beautiful and sad song.

hey, i'm not american, and i feel incredibly amazed about the american laws on the death penalty - this is, i'm against the capital punishment in all cases.
so i'd like to read about your (american or non-american) points of view on this subject...



sorry for the bad english... please correct anything wrong...

ezekiels_oblivion

yeah...the song is so sad but soooooo powerful! I just love it!

Androgynous Mind

I.m.Still.Alive wrote:

beautiful and sad song.

hey, i'm not american, and i feel incredibly amazed about the american laws on the death penalty - this is, i'm against the capital punishment in all cases.
so i'd like to read about your (american or non-american) points of view on this subject...



sorry for the bad english... please correct anything wrong...

Can't say that I share the same views, but it is a pretty cool song.

et21

If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.

korby

have you ever done anything wrong ? and needed forgivness, but was unforgiving ?

so i dub the the unforgiven

Jamal

et21 wrote:

If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.

Murder vs. manslaughter

There is quite a big difference.

ezekiels_oblivion

et21 wrote:

If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.

I disagree. This would mean: spread the wave of aggression to the world...
I find it hypocritical that the American courtrooms stipulate ''In God We Trust'' on the one hand and on the other execute sb as if he/she isn't one of a God's creatures and thus ignore ''Thou Shall Not Kill'' command. It seems illogical. My moral codex doesn't approve of killing people no matter what they did.

I.m.Still.Alive

Yes!! It's totally immoral to be in the service of society and representing justice and yet... killing people . No matter what they've done. I think no one has the authority to kill another living thing. And the people who do probably need some kind of support, there's no way a healthy, sane person would harm someone just because, and those who are not healthy and sane should get some help.
And about that taxes... crap... What about those you're paying and which are being used to finance the war in Iraq? I mean, I'm not an expert on that subject, but I'm smart enough to understand that it's not a war for freedom. And you're paying for it. You're paying your government to kill innocent people who happen to live in a pretty rich country when it comes to oil. What's better, to pay for a genocide or to pay for one murderer (or whatever) who may deserve a second chance?

McShade

et21 wrote:

If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.

I know that this is a sensitive matter, but I really don't agree with your point of view. What you're saying is "an eye for an eye". Will that lead to something good?
Personally, sometimes I hear and see things that just make me think that someone shoud be "getting a taste of their own medicine". But that that's what goes through my mind, humans have feelings of rage, of revenge, of anger. It doesn't make it correct, though.
So, I really don't think that should be an institution in the judicial system

ForestBrain

I.m.Still.Alive wrote:

beautiful and sad song.

hey, i'm not american, and i feel incredibly amazed about the american laws on the death penalty - this is, i'm against the capital punishment in all cases.
so i'd like to read about your (american or non-american) points of view on this subject...



sorry for the bad english... please correct anything wrong...

I'm against it because the same people killing the guy are murderers. AND no person has the right to kill another. I've always thought a good idea would be to take all of the murderers and put them on an inescapable island. Dreaming, I know. But it sounds like the fairest idea.

peeps

sj.brodie wrote:

couldn't agree more, this song sounds so eerie when Ed does a pre-show performance of it. Here's a link (scroll down to number 418)

http://www.f4kin-up.net/fullmp3.asp?P=8

Ed at his intense best!

haha holy shit. i can't believe that site still exists.

Pearl Jam and toast

I've always loved this song,.. easily one of my favorite lost dogs.

Outshined90

About the song, I actually didn't like it at first. A while ago I started listening to it, and I think it's amazing. Eddie's voice is incredible.

About the death penalty, I think that when you kill someone, with every intention of doing so, you deserve to die. If you kill someone by accident or with the intention of harming, but not killing, I don't think death penalty is the answer. But if someone kills in cold blood for no good reason, it is what that person deserves.

blue roses

ezekiels_oblivion wrote:

yeah...the song is so sad but soooooo powerful! I just love it!

which one of us doesn't like good and powerful sad songs
ı love eddie vedder'voice

slightofjeff

ezekiels_oblivion wrote:

I disagree. This would mean: spread the wave of aggression to the world...
I find it hypocritical that the American courtrooms stipulate ''In God We Trust'' on the one hand and on the other execute sb as if he/she isn't one of a God's creatures and thus ignore ''Thou Shall Not Kill'' command. It seems illogical. My moral codex doesn't approve of killing people no matter what they did.

If we're gonna quote the Bible and all ... what about "an eye for an eye?"

ps -- I like the song, though.

ezekiels_oblivion

slightofjeff wrote:

If we're gonna quote the Bible and all ... what about "an eye for an eye?"

ps -- I like the song, though.

I haven't read the entire Bible, you probably haven't read it too. It's the easiest thing to do to use a quote without at least checking out its context. But what I remember from religious studies (when I was still in the elementary school lol) is that these 10 commands are like God's law, cannot get higher from that.

JordyWordy

The song is based on the film Dead Man Walking, and bearing that in mind the sparse lyrics in this song are incredible.

Regardless of opinions for or against the death penalty (including eds), he manages to portray the insignificance, hopelessness and meaninglessness of the actions of a man (from his point of view) waiting to die for crimes he's committed. its disturbingly hopeless and somber.


"The settling of my every step, inching off of the earth
is magnified, by the things i've done, the thing that i've become

Every lift of my hand. coffee cup & back,
is magnified, by the things i've done, the things ive seen, the things ive caused
i'm a dead man walking

the hammer that i once brought down now hovers over me
casts a shadow, a cross onto me

the hallways are all mocking me
what i've become
they're all mocking me
i'm a dead man walking
a dead man walking
a dead man walking

i'm a dead man walking
a dead man walking
a dead man walking"

Tizoffthechain

et21 wrote:

If someone kills someone, they deserve to die to. No questions asked. They do something bad, guess what, something bad happens to you. Why make us pay taxpayer money more for your jail time ? What is inhumane about that? I will never understand that.

Don't you think about the pain of the families and friends of the murderer? Why add sorrow to sorrow? The victim's family is already fucked up, why screw another family?
Inhumane is taking somebody's life, justice cannot do that!

lephty

you know whats funny? from my experience, most people that are pro-life are also pro-execution...

and it also seems that pro-choice people tend to be against execution...