you know. messages that are that deep about the meaning of the lyrics in some rock song. people r gonna start calling you nuts. they already tell me that
I dunno. I remember reading something Ed said about not wanting to do the album. He'd rather be surfing. There's something about this song that tells me he did the work.
well since were on the topic. im going throught the worst time in my life. i ignored problems in the past and now they have bottled up and im dealing with everything . its overwhelming. i cant sleep, eat. i been looking for answers, praying if you will. seems the people who know more things from an outsiders prospective are maby akward about not interviening soon enough. i guess nobody thought this problem would end up so serious. and the people who dont know, tell me im a crazy. paranoid or something. well she is gone from my life now. i dont know if she can come back
Well Korby, don't worry, at the end of it everything will be OK
Back on topic - this song seems to me like an assault on fundamentalist religion and moral absolutism, a very prevalent phenomenon going on in the world right now :(
Maybe Eddie proposes athiesm at the answer, the line "But God is nowhere,.. to be found conveniently". The fact that god doesn't exist would stem all this fucking violence!
Well Korby, don't worry, at the end of it everything will be OK
Back on topic - this song seems to me like an assault on fundamentalist religion and moral absolutism, a very prevalent phenomenon going on in the world right now :(
Maybe Eddie proposes athiesm at the answer, the line "But God is nowhere,.. to be found conveniently". The fact that god doesn't exist would stem all this fucking violence!
Is he atheist??
The beauty of the song, on that front, is that it lets you form your own answer. I agree with the believers that it is a prayer, even though I'm an atheist.
If Eddie Vedder is an atheist then why would he write a song that is a prayer? I believe that Eddie Vedder is a christian personally, because he believes in all the basic christian valuse, Love, Hope, Peace. God should not be mixed in with politics, because then you get clueless christians voting for Bush, who claims to stand for christian values (like bombing Iraq hospitals and schools....the idiot) instead of thinking about what God would want... which is to not have a war. Leave your hatred, on the cross...thats my favorite line from any song ever written, because thats what christianity is supposed to be about.
In the "Live at the Garden" DVD Eddie says "Faith in something bigger" then later (as not to offend any atheists) he says "I said faith in something bigger, but i don't know about that, it's faith that its all going to work out"...which I believe to be the same thing as faith in something bigger, other wise how can you have faith it will work out?
I've got tons of thoughts on this song, which lyrically is probably my favorite on Avocado. I'll stick with this one for now though:
I love the imagery in "falling up somehow."
It brings to mind two things: The Christian belief in the rapture, in which God will literally one day suck the faithful up into the heavens. And it also brings to mind a core belief in jihadist Islam, that those killed in defense of Muhammed (including suicide bombers) are immediately transported to heaven.
And I love the narrator's (ed's) advice to to these people: Do come down with the living, and let what is living love.
In ed's view, apparently, the people perpetrating this war should care less about heaven, and more about Earth.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
God should not be mixed in with politics, because then you get clueless christians voting for Bush, who claims to stand for christian values (like bombing Iraq hospitals and schools....the idiot) instead of thinking about what God would want... which is to not have a war. Leave your hatred, on the cross...thats my favorite line from any song ever written, because thats what christianity is supposed to be about.
i personally don't believe in any religion...it's man-made..
but i definately agree with the above statement.
It Also about people who would put themselves and others in harm or bad situations because thier faith tells them." over moral ground" do come down
Others agree that people shouldnt stay in hopeless situations for thier faith. Sometimes its better to walk away.
What do you say ?
thinking positive is always the best but sometimes ı feel like life is too bad to think positive especially mine
but this is my favorite in the new album
without putting too much into analyzing the rest of the song(tho a lot of your interpretations are great) i must say the last part, both musically and eds voice from the "calling out"-part and til the end of the song kinda calms me down.. i love the song and especially that last part, i dunno why, but it really has a calming effect on me. like when im really mad or something that part is awesome. anyone who gets me? might be silly, its so short but thats what i feel anyway. now ive rambled on for too long ...sorry,
"those undecided needend have faith to be free
and those misguided (religious folk), there was a plan for them to be
now you got both sides
claiming kiling in God's name
but God is nowhere to be found conveniantly"
"Ransom paid the Devil, he whispers pleasing words.
Triumphant are the angels if they can get there first."
Have you ever seen the movie the Devil's Advocate. After Al's speech he said Vanity is my favorite sin. Its saying the same thing, God is absent. But yet places demands of forgiveness so he can forgive?? Thy shall never place anyone before me. If that's not vanity then what is. And because of that vanity the original message was changed, to faith. And that is why it went wrong. Walk the walk before you talk the talk. You have visions of falling up somehow.
Please don't misunderstand me I believe in a higher power but I have to believe in myself to find it.
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I dunno. I remember reading something Ed said about not wanting to do the album. He'd rather be surfing. There's something about this song that tells me he did the work.
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Back on topic - this song seems to me like an assault on fundamentalist religion and moral absolutism, a very prevalent phenomenon going on in the world right now :(
Maybe Eddie proposes athiesm at the answer, the line "But God is nowhere,.. to be found conveniently". The fact that god doesn't exist would stem all this fucking violence!
Is he atheist??
The beauty of the song, on that front, is that it lets you form your own answer. I agree with the believers that it is a prayer, even though I'm an atheist.
I don't know if Eddie is.
Actually, I think he is.
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I love the imagery in "falling up somehow."
It brings to mind two things: The Christian belief in the rapture, in which God will literally one day suck the faithful up into the heavens. And it also brings to mind a core belief in jihadist Islam, that those killed in defense of Muhammed (including suicide bombers) are immediately transported to heaven.
And I love the narrator's (ed's) advice to to these people: Do come down with the living, and let what is living love.
In ed's view, apparently, the people perpetrating this war should care less about heaven, and more about Earth.
for the least they could possibly do
i personally don't believe in any religion...it's man-made..
but i definately agree with the above statement.
but this is my favorite in the new album
me 3
thats so deep
just like:
"those undecided needend have faith to be free
and those misguided (religious folk), there was a plan for them to be
now you got both sides
claiming kiling in God's name
but God is nowhere to be found conveniantly"
Triumphant are the angels if they can get there first."
Please don't misunderstand me I believe in a higher power but I have to believe in myself to find it.
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