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33 1/3 vs 45 LPS

mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
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given a choice between the two on a given lp title , which would you choose and why?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    33 1/3 (unless I win the lottery).
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    brianlux said:
    33 1/3 (unless I win the lottery).

    so your main consideration is price?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    P.S.  I assume we're talking LPs, right?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    brianlux said:
    P.S.  I assume we're talking LPs, right?

    well it IS in the title.. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    P.S.  I assume we're talking LPs, right?

    well it IS in the title.. 

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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    Assuming 45 will be synonymous with better audio quality, 45. 


  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    so what I am looking at initially is the AP Remastered reissue of SRV The Sky Is Crying.

    They have the 45 rpm in stock. 180 gram vinyl.

    discogs has a 200 gram 33 1/3 version put out at the same time. because its resell its inflated.

    this title, between the 2 sites both would cost the same.

    So just questioning why I would want a 45 rpm LP over the 33 1/3 for this and future purchases.. 
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl Posts: 10,909
    mickeyrat said:
    so what I am looking at initially is the AP Remastered reissue of SRV The Sky Is Crying.

    They have the 45 rpm in stock. 180 gram vinyl.

    discogs has a 200 gram 33 1/3 version put out at the same time. because its resell its inflated.

    this title, between the 2 sites both would cost the same.

    So just questioning why I would want a 45 rpm LP over the 33 1/3 for this and future purchases.. 
    the only 45 LP I have is the Foo Fighters Wasting Light. Every time I put it on I forget to change the speed until after the record starts. Every damn time!
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    GlowGirl said:
    mickeyrat said:
    so what I am looking at initially is the AP Remastered reissue of SRV The Sky Is Crying.

    They have the 45 rpm in stock. 180 gram vinyl.

    discogs has a 200 gram 33 1/3 version put out at the same time. because its resell its inflated.

    this title, between the 2 sites both would cost the same.

    So just questioning why I would want a 45 rpm LP over the 33 1/3 for this and future purchases.. 
    the only 45 LP I have is the Foo Fighters Wasting Light. Every time I put it on I forget to change the speed until after the record starts. Every damn time!

    hmm, hadnt considered that potential.Already thought of flipping records sooner...
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    A 45 cut is going to sound slightly better on amazing systems. If your system is ok to good, then go with whatever speed you would rather play them at. 
  • jerparker20jerparker20 Posts: 2,501
    I’m not a fan of 45 LPs at all.

    I will generally avoid them at all costs. I believe I only own two 45 LPs out of 350+ records. I don’t care if the audio quality is better. I’m not that big of an audiophile. I find having to flip a record after 1 maybe two tracks and remembering to have to change the speed on the turntable to be a hassle. Same can be said for my take on 7” 45s.


  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    I have the 45 In Rainbows album and I like it a bunch.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    There is one good reason I would not want very many 45 RPM LPs:  Having to lift the platter and change the belt from 33 1/3 to 45 on my Project Carbon Debut.  It's bad enough that I have to do that with 7" singles (and  some 12" singles), but since I mostly listen to LPs, that would get old fast. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    Belt changing is my only issue as well. Especially since there is a cover over the belt drive where I would change it. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    But I have to say, if flipping records, regardless if its every 10-15 (for 45rpm) minutes or every 15-22 (for 33), is an issue, perhaps spinning records isn't your right medium for listening.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    Tim Simmons said:
    But I have to say, if flipping records, regardless if its every 10-15 (for 45rpm) minutes or every 15-22 (for 33), is an issue, perhaps spinning records isn't your right medium for listening.

    "Flipping" a record (turning the record over, as opposed to reselling it), that is one of the rituals and joys of listening to an LP!
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    agreed
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 669
    I'm no expert, but 45s sound better on my Pro-ject. Takes 3 seconds to change the speed. 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    https://youtu.be/lM7H0ooV_o8

    ...on the, 45!
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,587
    I bought Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning which was on 12" vinyl but at 45pm.   Super annoying when there's only 2 songs per side.. lol.  So much record flipping.   I eventually bought the regular versions :)
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 23,306
    I think QOTSA Like Clockwork was a 12/45
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,523
    33 1/3

    Changing sides too often suck.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    AW124797 said:
    I'm no expert, but 45s sound better on my Pro-ject. Takes 3 seconds to change the speed. 

    Is that a newer Project?  With mine, you have to lift the platter off.  My hands are not so steady these days so I have to hold my breath and con-cen-trate!  :lol:
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  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 669
    edited September 2021
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    I'm no expert, but 45s sound better on my Pro-ject. Takes 3 seconds to change the speed. 

    Is that a newer Project?  With mine, you have to lift the platter off.  My hands are not so steady these days so I have to hold my breath and con-cen-trate!  :lol:
    It's about 2 years old. I'm very happy with it. I guess I got lucky when the time came to upgrade, most new quality vinyl players had exposed belt mechanism (if I remember right). Also, I think I've read somewhere that 45 LPs are cut at slower speed, therefore, better quality pressings. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    I'm no expert, but 45s sound better on my Pro-ject. Takes 3 seconds to change the speed. 

    Is that a newer Project?  With mine, you have to lift the platter off.  My hands are not so steady these days so I have to hold my breath and con-cen-trate!  :lol:
    It's about 2 years old. I'm very happy with it. I guess I got lucky when the time came to upgrade, most new quality vinyl players had exposed belt mechanism (if I remember right). Also, I think I've read somewhere that 45 LPs are cut at slower speed, therefore, better quality pressings. 

    Good to know about the exposed belt.  I'll keep that in mind if I ever get around to replacing my TT.
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,050
    GlowGirl said:
    mickeyrat said:
    so what I am looking at initially is the AP Remastered reissue of SRV The Sky Is Crying.

    They have the 45 rpm in stock. 180 gram vinyl.

    discogs has a 200 gram 33 1/3 version put out at the same time. because its resell its inflated.

    this title, between the 2 sites both would cost the same.

    So just questioning why I would want a 45 rpm LP over the 33 1/3 for this and future purchases.. 
    the only 45 LP I have is the Foo Fighters Wasting Light. Every time I put it on I forget to change the speed until after the record starts. Every damn time!
    I have a different album, but the same. Every time!
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  • MedozKMedozK Posts: 9,209
    45s do have better sound, the flipping every 12 minutes can get old. So those cancel out, the biggest negative I think about when getting a 45 is that if it is an album I am very familiar with I hate how the sequencing is messed up by having to fiip or change records. One that comes to mind immediately is Marvin Gaye's What's Going On... the sequence is totally messed up by now having gaps where there shouldn't be.... so If I am happy with the 33, I probably don't seek out the 45.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    MedozK said:
    45s do have better sound, the flipping every 12 minutes can get old. So those cancel out, the biggest negative I think about when getting a 45 is that if it is an album I am very familiar with I hate how the sequencing is messed up by having to fiip or change records. One that comes to mind immediately is Marvin Gaye's What's Going On... the sequence is totally messed up by now having gaps where there shouldn't be.... so If I am happy with the 33, I probably don't seek out the 45.

    Just make them bigger.  Problem solved!
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