Gabby Petito

Merkin Baller

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

Gern Blansten

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I was just reading an article on the parents...apparently the prosecutor said that it would be too difficult to prosecute them based on the lack of evidence.

I assume this is because the parents could both plead the fifth and since the conversations between them and Brian (who is dead) cannot be proven there is basically nowhere to go with it. The article said that Brian staying with them and them driving him around is not illegal since he lived with them and would normally do that anyway.

That's why I wonder if one of the angles of the civil suit relates to possibly gaining evidence. But I'm no attorney so I could be completely off base.

Honestly though....I remember back to before Gabby's body was found (and before Brian was dead) and seeing footage of the parents out in their garden fucking around, etc. How could a normal human being continue to do normal daily chores with all that shit going down? At that point they knew that Brian was hiding in the swamp.

Merkin Baller

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I was just reading an article on the parents...apparently the prosecutor said that it would be too difficult to prosecute them based on the lack of evidence.

I assume this is because the parents could both plead the fifth and since the conversations between them and Brian (who is dead) cannot be proven there is basically nowhere to go with it. The article said that Brian staying with them and them driving him around is not illegal since he lived with them and would normally do that anyway.

That's why I wonder if one of the angles of the civil suit relates to possibly gaining evidence. But I'm no attorney so I could be completely off base.

Honestly though....I remember back to before Gabby's body was found (and before Brian was dead) and seeing footage of the parents out in their garden fucking around, etc. How could a normal human being continue to do normal daily chores with all that shit going down? At that point they knew that Brian was hiding in the swamp.

On September 1st he returned to his parents' house alone in Gabby's van. 

On September 10th his mother blocked her mother on her phone and facebook. 


The Laundries are f'ing ghouls. 

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.

Seems like you're outnumbered.

I would make those fuckers think about what they did every single day for the rest of their fucking lives. They aren't doing this for money obviously.

It doesn't bother me if I'm outnumbered and I get why you'd want to make someone suffer but it's just vengeful/vendetta at the end of the day and you think that would male you feel better but it won't.

Maybe it’s to make the shit bag parents an example so that the next set of shit bag parents think twice and do the right thing and not be so shitty?

 I’d imagine if it was your loved one who was murdered, you’d be whistling a different tune.

I have already stated I would not want to drag it on.  Reliving that pain over and over again would be insanity to me.

tempo_n_groove

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

yet you keep dragging this thread out....

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

yet you keep dragging this thread out....

Do you still beat your wife?  Everyone keeps asking questions on why and how yet when I answer I get this... Sure.

Merkin Baller

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

It's a position you're entitled too, and one not only empathetic for the Laundries' situation, but also very forgiving of their apparent complicity in helping their son cover up his crime and to evade justice. 

This position is also completely devoid of empathy for the Petitos, specifically in regards to what the Laundries put them through.

tempo_n_groove

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

It's a position you're entitled too, and one not only empathetic for the Laundries' situation, but also very forgiving of their apparent complicity in helping their son cover up his crime and to evade justice. 

This position is also completely devoid of empathy for the Petitos, specifically in regards to what the Laundries put them through.

My empathy towards the petitos is letting it go and not moving on any further.  Both their kids are dead, there aren't any winners from this.  

Merkin Baller

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

It's a position you're entitled too, and one not only empathetic for the Laundries' situation, but also very forgiving of their apparent complicity in helping their son cover up his crime and to evade justice. 

This position is also completely devoid of empathy for the Petitos, specifically in regards to what the Laundries put them through.

My empathy towards the petitos is letting it go and not moving on any further.  Both their kids are dead, there aren't any winners from this.  

I understand. You've made your position clear.

I guess in the end I'm just surprised that helping to cover up a murder isn't universally seen as a bad thing for which people should be held accountable. 

mickeyrat

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

It's a position you're entitled too, and one not only empathetic for the Laundries' situation, but also very forgiving of their apparent complicity in helping their son cover up his crime and to evade justice. 

This position is also completely devoid of empathy for the Petitos, specifically in regards to what the Laundries put them through.

My empathy towards the petitos is letting it go and not moving on any further.  Both their kids are dead, there aren't any winners from this.  

that's how you define empathy?

sounds more like get the fuck over it to me.

Merkin Baller

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

It's a position you're entitled too, and one not only empathetic for the Laundries' situation, but also very forgiving of their apparent complicity in helping their son cover up his crime and to evade justice. 

This position is also completely devoid of empathy for the Petitos, specifically in regards to what the Laundries put them through.

My empathy towards the petitos is letting it go and not moving on any further.  Both their kids are dead, there aren't any winners from this.  

that's how you define empathy?

sounds more like get the fuck over it to me.

Yeah... it's not an empathetic position for the Petitos considering all they've been through. 

I could understand Tempo's stance if the Laundries turned their son away when he came home alone in Gabby's van, but they didn't. They took him on a vacation and ignored the pleas of her parents who knew there was something terribly wrong. I guess Tempo and I disagree on whether or not it's ok to help a family member cover up for a murder they committed. 


I've beaten this dead horse enough though. People are entitled to their opinions whether or not I understand them. 

Gern Blansten

I just couldn't take that position (fuck it just let them get away with it) unless I was actually in their shoes. And I hope I'm never in their shoes.

mace1229

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

It's a position you're entitled too, and one not only empathetic for the Laundries' situation, but also very forgiving of their apparent complicity in helping their son cover up his crime and to evade justice. 

This position is also completely devoid of empathy for the Petitos, specifically in regards to what the Laundries put them through.

Maybe I'd feel very different if I had a loved one murdered, but I don't understand how he evaded justice, I always thought having them knock themselves off would be exactly the justice I want. I wouldn't have to go through a trial, learn all the details I'd rather not know, and making the guy so scared he takes his own life seems better than a trial and sentence to me. 

Merkin Baller

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

It's a position you're entitled too, and one not only empathetic for the Laundries' situation, but also very forgiving of their apparent complicity in helping their son cover up his crime and to evade justice. 

This position is also completely devoid of empathy for the Petitos, specifically in regards to what the Laundries put them through.

Maybe I'd feel very different if I had a loved one murdered, but I don't understand how he evaded justice, I always thought having them knock themselves off would be exactly the justice I want. I wouldn't have to go through a trial, learn all the details I'd rather not know, and making the guy so scared he takes his own life seems better than a trial and sentence to me. 

I guess it comes down to being able to step outside of your own lived experience and trying to see things from someone else's point of view... AKA empathy. 

Gern Blansten

The question that I would want to know as a parent would be "did Brian's parents help him manufacture an excuse". 

His journal referred to Gabby falling and he basically had to put her out of her misery. It almost seems like something you would come up with in a brainstorming session....with your parents.

Halifax2TheMax

"Justice delayed is justice denied."

Merkin Baller

Gern Blansten said:

The question that I would want to know as a parent would be "did Brian's parents help him manufacture an excuse". 

His journal referred to Gabby falling and he basically had to put her out of her misery. It almost seems like something you would come up with in a brainstorming session....with your parents.

I would love to hear a plausible reason as to why the Laundries might cut off all communication w/ the Petitos 10 days after their son arrived home without her in her van if they DIDN'T know he killed her. 


That people are more sympathetic to the Laundries here than the Petitos is beyond fucked up. 

I get it. people like to be contrarian, but sometimes the unpopular opinion is unpopular for a good reason. 

mace1229

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

It's a position you're entitled too, and one not only empathetic for the Laundries' situation, but also very forgiving of their apparent complicity in helping their son cover up his crime and to evade justice. 

This position is also completely devoid of empathy for the Petitos, specifically in regards to what the Laundries put them through.

Maybe I'd feel very different if I had a loved one murdered, but I don't understand how he evaded justice, I always thought having them knock themselves off would be exactly the justice I want. I wouldn't have to go through a trial, learn all the details I'd rather not know, and making the guy so scared he takes his own life seems better than a trial and sentence to me. 

I guess it comes down to being able to step outside of your own lived experience and trying to see things from someone else's point of view... AKA empathy. 

Empathy has nothing to do with it. I'm just saying for me personally, that would feel like justice. I can't know for sure, and neither can you, until it happens to someone in your family. That isn't lacking empathy. That's just how I feel. 

Merkin Baller

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Gabby lived with them for over a year....and they did everything they could to help Brian get away

I don't think if they told them, if they even knew, that it would have made a difference.  The family would still be suing everyone anyways.  No matter what happens and whom they sue, they will never be whole again.  I mean that with empathy.

If you had empathy, you wouldn't be assuming the worst of the victim's family and the best of the murderer's family, who by all appearances are complicit in helping their son escape justice. 


This is quite the hill to die on, Tempo. 

I'm fine with it too. Justice is served in my eyes and nobody wins.

Do you not think Laundrie's parents, if it turns out knew about the murder should face consequences for helping their son hide, or do they get a pass because he's their son? 

I'm not sure what the law is on that so it's not up to me.  Not sure if there is a child/son privilege?

Weak. 

You Know my position, whyd you ask?

You're giving a pass to murderer's family who by all accounts added to the suffering of the victim's family who you're simultaneously assuming the worst of. 

It's a f'ed up position to take knowing what we know about this situation, that's why I asked.

Their son is dead, their daughter is dead. There is no winners here.  Not seeing what good perusing this any further is going to help in healing anyone.  At this point it's revenge.

I'm hard pressed to think you or anyone else here wouldn't want revenge for someone killing their daughter, prolonging that suffering and / or robbing them from seeing their daughter's killer face justice. Would it bring her back? Of course not, but that doesn't mean the Petitos don't deserve whatever justice they can still get.  

This is going to drag on for the rest of their lives regardless. They will never get over this. They will never find peace. With that in mind I can't think of one good reason why the Petitos shouldn't go after the people who helped their daughter's killer hide and prolonged their suffering. They were robbed multiple times over. 

Why does the empathy you mentioned yesterday extend only to the Laundries' plight, but not the Petitos'? The latter are the victims here, not the former. 

Their daughter was killed and they were denied the opportunity to see her killer face justice, and no... him killing himself isn't justice. He took the easy way out and never had to answer for what he did. That isn't justice, Tempo and you know it. 

Harboring a fugitive is a crime, and no... there's no federal exemption for family (apparently there is in the state of Florida, but I have to wonder if that extends to murderers). Why you think the Laundries shouldn't be held accountable for their actions is beyond me. 

I would not want to drag this on another day if I were any of them.  Previously mentioned on why.

It's a position you're entitled too, and one not only empathetic for the Laundries' situation, but also very forgiving of their apparent complicity in helping their son cover up his crime and to evade justice. 

This position is also completely devoid of empathy for the Petitos, specifically in regards to what the Laundries put them through.

Maybe I'd feel very different if I had a loved one murdered, but I don't understand how he evaded justice, I always thought having them knock themselves off would be exactly the justice I want. I wouldn't have to go through a trial, learn all the details I'd rather not know, and making the guy so scared he takes his own life seems better than a trial and sentence to me. 

I guess it comes down to being able to step outside of your own lived experience and trying to see things from someone else's point of view... AKA empathy. 

Empathy has nothing to do with it. I'm just saying for me personally, that would feel like justice. I can't know for sure, and neither can you, until it happens to someone in your family. That isn't lacking empathy. That's just how I feel. 

You may want to reevaluate your understanding of empathy. 

Or don't, and keep making my point for me, I don't care.