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  • GibsonGibson TorontoPosts: 2,055

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  • Matts3221Matts3221 Posts: 612
    Matts3221 said:
    Zod said:
    Out of context, what concerts would go you go see?

    I found PJ tickets were still on the cheaper end compared to their peers (Veteran rock acts who can sell out Arena/Stadiums).   The whole industry (prior to Covid) was experience skyrocketing ticket costs.   PJ's prices went up, but not near as much as some other bands.  What I paid to see GNR and the Stones was ludicrous :)

    PJ are the only band i'd go see in an arena/stadium. I don't know why i give them a pass but i wouldn't see anyone else somewhere that holds more than maybe 2000-3000 people. i want to SEE the band, not a sea of people. 

    Same , I would never want to see a band in a Boston venue any larger than House Of Blues and I would prefer something smaller like The Sinclair , Middle East Downstairs or Paradise. I give PJ a pass on those but they are the only band I do that with.
    exactly. mid east downstairs? i want to see pj UPstairs haha. i'm in full agreement though. 


    Upstairs holds 187 people I think , I was at least giving it Downstairs since that holds roughly 600.

    Yes I would take Upstairs as well.

  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 18,645
    Matts3221 said:
    Matts3221 said:
    Zod said:
    Out of context, what concerts would go you go see?

    I found PJ tickets were still on the cheaper end compared to their peers (Veteran rock acts who can sell out Arena/Stadiums).   The whole industry (prior to Covid) was experience skyrocketing ticket costs.   PJ's prices went up, but not near as much as some other bands.  What I paid to see GNR and the Stones was ludicrous :)

    PJ are the only band i'd go see in an arena/stadium. I don't know why i give them a pass but i wouldn't see anyone else somewhere that holds more than maybe 2000-3000 people. i want to SEE the band, not a sea of people. 

    Same , I would never want to see a band in a Boston venue any larger than House Of Blues and I would prefer something smaller like The Sinclair , Middle East Downstairs or Paradise. I give PJ a pass on those but they are the only band I do that with.
    exactly. mid east downstairs? i want to see pj UPstairs haha. i'm in full agreement though. 


    Upstairs holds 187 people I think , I was at least giving it Downstairs since that holds roughly 600.

    Yes I would take Upstairs as well.

    Still pouring one out for T.T. the Bear's.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • NoloadNoload Monticello, GeorgiaPosts: 1,373
    mcgruff10 said:
    pthomn said:
    getting old sucks
    Yeah I definitely think that is a big part of it.  Also the combination of a big crowd, the pain in the ass parking, the long lines for everything and being in a GA crowd for the first time all adds to it.   I said to my wife last night, "how sad is it that I'm actually looking forward to shn being over."  She agreed with me.  

    Hopefully I'll be more fired up with for the Spring arena tour.  
    I think it's a combo of everything..age, recycled material/merch, festivals, awful communication and some reflective disinterest i.e., if they're not that into it, why should I be?  I'm not sure, but I feel some of this as well.  I'm wondering if I'm going to have to throw in some merch to unload my Encore Weekend wristband :)
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  • Matts3221Matts3221 Posts: 612

    I can see all the different perspectives on here. In the Boston area we of course get a lot more shows. I was upset just a little with Fenway 2018 vs 2016 because of curfew and starting later than I would have liked.

    I honestly think this is mostly Covid and everyone is fucking tired of it , lets just be honest. Also these are festival shows not just PJ shows so going in you know it will not be as long.

    Also crowds , no thanks , barley could stand them before and hate them even more now. That said I am hoping for a full 2022 tour and fingers crossed hopeful that less cases , move vaccinations will make me feel much better about going into a large crowd.

    Also I don't travel for shows anymore , in the Boston area I would head down to Hartford for a PJ show at the XL Center but that is really about it.

    20 years ago I remember getting up at 6 in the morning to drive out to Rochester NY for a local hardcore show and then drove right back later that night getting home around 6am. The idea of doing that now just seems exhausting.

    Hope everyone going to SHN has a blast this weekend , I think everything is going to go away once PJ takes the stage and everyone not there is going to be pouring over the setlist later that night or the next morning.


     

  • Matts3221Matts3221 Posts: 612
    dankind said:
    Matts3221 said:
    Matts3221 said:
    Zod said:
    Out of context, what concerts would go you go see?

    I found PJ tickets were still on the cheaper end compared to their peers (Veteran rock acts who can sell out Arena/Stadiums).   The whole industry (prior to Covid) was experience skyrocketing ticket costs.   PJ's prices went up, but not near as much as some other bands.  What I paid to see GNR and the Stones was ludicrous :)

    PJ are the only band i'd go see in an arena/stadium. I don't know why i give them a pass but i wouldn't see anyone else somewhere that holds more than maybe 2000-3000 people. i want to SEE the band, not a sea of people. 

    Same , I would never want to see a band in a Boston venue any larger than House Of Blues and I would prefer something smaller like The Sinclair , Middle East Downstairs or Paradise. I give PJ a pass on those but they are the only band I do that with.
    exactly. mid east downstairs? i want to see pj UPstairs haha. i'm in full agreement though. 


    Upstairs holds 187 people I think , I was at least giving it Downstairs since that holds roughly 600.

    Yes I would take Upstairs as well.

    Still pouring one out for T.T. the Bear's.


    Saw Wesley Willis there in 2001 I want to say.

    Bosstones played a surprise show there a week before it closed and I was lucky enough to score a ticket. Seeing a show there you basically felt like you were in the band.

    So many great shows in the 90's at those places along with Axis , Avalon , Bills Bar , Mama Kin , Cambridge VFW hall. So many more I am forgetting.

  • I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 9,377
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    PJ
    2013 Worcester 1 & 2
    2016 Quebec, Toronto 2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 2
    2018 Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Seattle 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway 1&2 

    EV
    2017 Firenze, Taormina 1 & 2
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYCPosts: 25,212
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    severed hand thirteen

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 25,717
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Night two fenway 2016 was one of my favorite shows.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 6,084
    edited September 14
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Night two fenway 2016 was one of my favorite shows.  
    Likewise. 

    They really did take it to another level that night. 
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 9,377
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Night two fenway 2016 was one of my favorite shows.  
    Likewise. 

    They really did take it to another level that night. 
    It was another level for me. Crowd and the band just came together for a perfect night. 
    PJ
    2013 Worcester 1 & 2
    2016 Quebec, Toronto 2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 2
    2018 Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Seattle 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway 1&2 

    EV
    2017 Firenze, Taormina 1 & 2
  • kotton_crownkotton_crown Posts: 204
    edited September 14
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Just checked the site to look at the set lists and strangely enough, besides being completely out of order for me, they count each tag as a separate song for the 2016 shows which they don’t do for the 2018 shows.  So really only two extra songs.
    Post edited by kotton_crown on
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 7,908
    edited September 14
    I’m here for the merch baby
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 25,717
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Night two fenway 2016 was one of my favorite shows.  
    Likewise. 

    They really did take it to another level that night. 
    It was another level for me. Crowd and the band just came together for a perfect night. 
    Totally agree!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 9,377
    edited September 14
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Just checked the site to look at the set lists and strangely enough, besides being completely out of order for me, they count each tag as a separate song for the 2016 shows which they don’t do for the 2018 shows.  So really only two extra songs.
    Lets go a little deeper here. Time on and off the stage. Look at those start times in 2018. Also 2hrs 40 mins both nights. 2016 we got 2hrs 50 mins  and 3hrs 13 mins. Fenway 2 2016 was 33 minutes longer than the 2018 shows. 

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway
    Boston, MA
    Aug 05, 2016
    Show One

    Walk On Music: Baba O’Riley
    Band Onstage: 7:40
    Band Offstage: 10:30

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway
    Boston, MA
    Aug 07, 2016
    Show Two

    Walk On Music: Pendulumorphosis 7:33
    Band Onstage:07:34
    Band Offstage:10:47

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway Park
    Boston, MA
    Show One
    September 02, 2018
    Set List

    Walk On Music: Aye Davanita (from Vitalogy album)

    Band Onstage: 7:56
    Band Offstage: 10:36

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway Park
    Boston, MA
    Show Two
    September 04, 2018


    Walk On Music: Aye Davanita (from Vitalogy album)

    Band Onstage: 7:50
    Band Offstage: 10:31


    PJ
    2013 Worcester 1 & 2
    2016 Quebec, Toronto 2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 2
    2018 Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Seattle 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway 1&2 

    EV
    2017 Firenze, Taormina 1 & 2
  • D-RodD-Rod Posts: 1,103
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Night two fenway 2016 was one of my favorite shows.  
    Likewise. 

    They really did take it to another level that night. 
    It was another level for me. Crowd and the band just came together for a perfect night. 
    Totally agree!
    I also agree with your two agreements 
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    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016......Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    202?.....Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec City, Hamilton 
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 9,377
    edited September 14
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Night two fenway 2016 was one of my favorite shows.  
    Likewise. 

    They really did take it to another level that night. 
    It was another level for me. Crowd and the band just came together for a perfect night. 
    Totally agree!
    I also agree with your two agreements 
    Do you have Seattle Night Two at the top Drod or do you have Fenway night 2 ahead of it? Fenway for me. 
    Post edited by PJNB on
    PJ
    2013 Worcester 1 & 2
    2016 Quebec, Toronto 2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 2
    2018 Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Seattle 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway 1&2 

    EV
    2017 Firenze, Taormina 1 & 2
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 25,717
    PJNB said:
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Night two fenway 2016 was one of my favorite shows.  
    Likewise. 

    They really did take it to another level that night. 
    It was another level for me. Crowd and the band just came together for a perfect night. 
    Totally agree!
    I also agree with your two agreements 
    Seattle Night Two Drod or do you have Fenway night 2 ahead of it? Fenway for me. 
    I'd put fenway 2 right after toronto 1, 2011.  Could be a top five show for me.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJNB said:
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Just checked the site to look at the set lists and strangely enough, besides being completely out of order for me, they count each tag as a separate song for the 2016 shows which they don’t do for the 2018 shows.  So really only two extra songs.
    Lets go a little deeper here. Time on and off the stage. Look at those start times in 2018. Also 2hrs 40 mins both nights. 2016 we got 2hrs 50 mins  and 3hrs 13 mins. Fenway 2 2016 was 33 minutes longer than the 2018 shows. 

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway
    Boston, MA
    Aug 05, 2016
    Show One

    Walk On Music: Baba O’Riley
    Band Onstage: 7:40
    Band Offstage: 10:30

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway
    Boston, MA
    Aug 07, 2016
    Show Two

    Walk On Music: Pendulumorphosis 7:33
    Band Onstage:07:34
    Band Offstage:10:47

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway Park
    Boston, MA
    Show One
    September 02, 2018
    Set List

    Walk On Music: Aye Davanita (from Vitalogy album)

    Band Onstage: 7:56
    Band Offstage: 10:36

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway Park
    Boston, MA
    Show Two
    September 04, 2018


    Walk On Music: Aye Davanita (from Vitalogy album)

    Band Onstage: 7:50
    Band Offstage: 10:31


    Fair point. I just remember feeling that same frustration in 2016, mostly towards the fans that were still filling in.  But I do remember the hype around Fenway ‘18 going into it because, if I remember correctly, the showtime was listed as 6:30 instead of the 7:00 showtime that was listed on all the other ball park shows and people were speculating a monster show.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 15,281
    Fenway 2 2016 and Wrigley 2013 were the two best ballpark shows I was at. Seattle 2 2018 is probably third.
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  • JH6056JH6056 Posts: 2,012
    I was still excited in 2018, excited enough to buy tix for, travel, everythng for 4 shows in 2 cities. But I was definitely slowing down myself and just wasn't sure how *I* would be at those 2018 shows.

    And then Seattle 2 happened.  And I was like "Fuck it, if I band I first saw in '93 and have seen 50+ times over the years can play one of the very best shows I've ever seen them do 25 yrs later, I'm in when I can be in. I'm attending when I can attend."

    Wasn't thinking I'd make it to SHN (also wasn't sure I was ready for a festival but Newport Folk Fest cured me of that worry in July), but the goddesses have been generous and off we go this weekend.  I think with Covid and 18 months to appreciate all that came before (while being terrified abotu what was going on in the moment, politically and health-wise), I approach this weekend cautiously, optimistically, open-ly, and mainly focusing on being fucking grateful me & loved ones have made it this far through this pandemic and that other things I value greatly are mostly out of the worst crisis mode they were in a year ago.

    So hopefully I can only be pleasantly surprised, if not blown away, from this starting place....

    Not saying it's for everyone, just chiming in with where I am right now. 

    Love to you all, wherever you are on your PJ journeys!
  • JH6056JH6056 Posts: 2,012
    Yefa said:
    I wasn’t planning to go to SHN until a short time ago. An old Pearl Jam buddy from MA (I am in CT) and I texted about it.  He was going and a friend of his had a spare to sell.  He offered to drive and I decided to go.  I am excited to see them again.  It will be my 100th time seeing Pearl Jam.  A music friend from NJ and his wife are seeing their first PJ show.  I am excited for them too.  As for merch...I am not the biggest collector but have bought my share of PJ merch.  Not once have I missed any PJ music because I was in a merch line.  I don’t understand anyone who would do that.
    Happy 100th show this weekend!!
  • JH6056JH6056 Posts: 2,012
    vedpunk said:
    vedpunk said:
    Here comes the name calling...must have stricken some nerves...and I'm insecure?  I'm just talking like everyone else.  We can still like the band right?  Sorry I don't agree with your pessimistic viewpoints.  Must be some sad lives.  I encourage you to take a walk.  Get some fresh air. The calm app is actually really useful if you prefer technology.
    Do you actually read what you write versus other people?   I would read it loud.  By the way, you named yourself punk.  So I don’t know that it falls under name calling.  
    Do you think about what you write before you push send?  You are burned out but wish the band did this and did that and were more like another band.  Pick a side, it's very confusing.  It's fine if you don't like the band anymore. Leave the forum to the fans and people excited to go to the shows.  
    I'm just gonna guess that in your real life, everything is not as simple or "black or white" as "Either you're stoked for all that PJ does" or "you're done with the band and should leave the board".  

    There is SO MUCH ROOM in between those 2 ends of the spectrum. Real people might even go from one extreme to another over the course of a week depending on what is happening in their lives and how they're looking at their next show.

    Sorry you're so confused by real people expressing real questions, real uncertainty, or real certainty that they are NOT excited or they are excited. Most of us live lives with layers, moods, waves going up and down on many many fronts.  And 18 months of a deadly once-in-a-lifetime (we all hope!) pandemic gives you a some time to reflect too.  And maybe evolve or realize some things you didn't realize before.

    I come out on the end of "grateful and excited to have chance to see the 1st show since 2018", but I have all the patience and understanding in the world for anyone feeling less psyched or totally over it.  Not sure why it would offend anyone.  "Real fans" evolve or ask questions or can not like something, absolutely does NOT make them less of a fan although they may feel less of a fan and that's cool too.

    Enjoy your ongoing enthusiasm, hopefully enjoy the next shows you go to whenever those are.  And maybe relax and accept that this fanbase has NEVER been made up of anything but humans. In all our flawed, beautiful, amazing, frustrating combos & complexities. <3
  • YefaYefa Posts: 1,096
    JH6056 said:
    Yefa said:
    I wasn’t planning to go to SHN until a short time ago. An old Pearl Jam buddy from MA (I am in CT) and I texted about it.  He was going and a friend of his had a spare to sell.  He offered to drive and I decided to go.  I am excited to see them again.  It will be my 100th time seeing Pearl Jam.  A music friend from NJ and his wife are seeing their first PJ show.  I am excited for them too.  As for merch...I am not the biggest collector but have bought my share of PJ merch.  Not once have I missed any PJ music because I was in a merch line.  I don’t understand anyone who would do that.
    Happy 100th show this weekend!!
    Thank you!  I hope you enjoy the festival as well.
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NYPosts: 2,105
    edited September 14
    on2legs said:
    If anyone with Baltimore tickets is burnt out, I will be happy to relieve your burden and attend the show for you. Just saying…
    :p write me down for that as well!
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  • PJNB said:
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Just checked the site to look at the set lists and strangely enough, besides being completely out of order for me, they count each tag as a separate song for the 2016 shows which they don’t do for the 2018 shows.  So really only two extra songs.
    Lets go a little deeper here. Time on and off the stage. Look at those start times in 2018. Also 2hrs 40 mins both nights. 2016 we got 2hrs 50 mins  and 3hrs 13 mins. Fenway 2 2016 was 33 minutes longer than the 2018 shows. 

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway
    Boston, MA
    Aug 05, 2016
    Show One

    Walk On Music: Baba O’Riley
    Band Onstage: 7:40
    Band Offstage: 10:30

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway
    Boston, MA
    Aug 07, 2016
    Show Two

    Walk On Music: Pendulumorphosis 7:33
    Band Onstage:07:34
    Band Offstage:10:47

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway Park
    Boston, MA
    Show One
    September 02, 2018
    Set List

    Walk On Music: Aye Davanita (from Vitalogy album)

    Band Onstage: 7:56
    Band Offstage: 10:36

    Pearl Jam
    Fenway Park
    Boston, MA
    Show Two
    September 04, 2018


    Walk On Music: Aye Davanita (from Vitalogy album)

    Band Onstage: 7:50
    Band Offstage: 10:31


    Fair point. I just remember feeling that same frustration in 2016, mostly towards the fans that were still filling in.  But I do remember the hype around Fenway ‘18 going into it because, if I remember correctly, the showtime was listed as 6:30 instead of the 7:00 showtime that was listed on all the other ball park shows and people were speculating a monster show.
    It's no longer on their twitter timeline (that I can find at least), but I'm pretty certain they sent out something the afternoon of Fenway 1 in '18 about getting into your seat on time for the show, which only added to the hype. 
  • mfc2006mfc2006 PDX--->KCPosts: 34,467
    JH6056 said:
    vedpunk said:
    vedpunk said:
    Here comes the name calling...must have stricken some nerves...and I'm insecure?  I'm just talking like everyone else.  We can still like the band right?  Sorry I don't agree with your pessimistic viewpoints.  Must be some sad lives.  I encourage you to take a walk.  Get some fresh air. The calm app is actually really useful if you prefer technology.
    Do you actually read what you write versus other people?   I would read it loud.  By the way, you named yourself punk.  So I don’t know that it falls under name calling.  
    Do you think about what you write before you push send?  You are burned out but wish the band did this and did that and were more like another band.  Pick a side, it's very confusing.  It's fine if you don't like the band anymore. Leave the forum to the fans and people excited to go to the shows.  
    I'm just gonna guess that in your real life, everything is not as simple or "black or white" as "Either you're stoked for all that PJ does" or "you're done with the band and should leave the board".  

    There is SO MUCH ROOM in between those 2 ends of the spectrum. Real people might even go from one extreme to another over the course of a week depending on what is happening in their lives and how they're looking at their next show.

    Sorry you're so confused by real people expressing real questions, real uncertainty, or real certainty that they are NOT excited or they are excited. Most of us live lives with layers, moods, waves going up and down on many many fronts.  And 18 months of a deadly once-in-a-lifetime (we all hope!) pandemic gives you a some time to reflect too.  And maybe evolve or realize some things you didn't realize before.

    I come out on the end of "grateful and excited to have chance to see the 1st show since 2018", but I have all the patience and understanding in the world for anyone feeling less psyched or totally over it.  Not sure why it would offend anyone.  "Real fans" evolve or ask questions or can not like something, absolutely does NOT make them less of a fan although they may feel less of a fan and that's cool too.

    Enjoy your ongoing enthusiasm, hopefully enjoy the next shows you go to whenever those are.  And maybe relax and accept that this fanbase has NEVER been made up of anything but humans. In all our flawed, beautiful, amazing, frustrating combos & complexities. <3
    Very well said!
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  • Matts3221Matts3221 Posts: 612
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    I remember Fenway ‘16 being the same with the hard 10:30 curfew and going on late with people still filling into their seats.
    Night 1 that was the case. Night 2 they blew past the curfew and played until 10:47
    # of songs per shows:

    8/5/16: 32
    8/7/16: 35
    9/2/18: 30
    9/4/18: 30

    Seven more songs in 2016
    Night two fenway 2016 was one of my favorite shows.  
    Likewise. 

    They really did take it to another level that night. 
    It was another level for me. Crowd and the band just came together for a perfect night. 
    Totally agree!


    Take me back to that night please.

    Thought I would be out of town so never got tickets.

    Wife surprised me three hours before the show and just hopped into the car to Fenway.

    Not thinking I was going and then seeing them was one thing , the show was just a whole other level of band and crowd firing on all cylinders.


  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NYPosts: 2,105
    Sometimes getting one or more of the epic shows can sour the regular ones.

    I remember not being hyped after DC ‘08 and wondering if I should rethink my priorities. Looking back I had a good streak with VFC Reading ‘04, Philly ‘05, 3 stops of the 2006 tour and then Vic and Lolla ‘07. A regular show in ‘08 just wasn’t the same caliber. I saw Ed solo but didn’t see the band again until 2013. I missed a lot of good shows in between.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18
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