Corduroy

boxwine_in_hellboxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
One of their greatest songs in my opinion but the title of this song has somewhat baffled me. What's your interpretation? Why is the the song titled this and what is the meaning?
one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    I assumed the song is about fame. Corduroy was the jacket that Ed wore and was mass produced.
  • JamalJamal Posts: 2,115
    Corduroy's the poor man's velvet ...
    correct me if I'm wrong

    so I guess this can somehow be related to it
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  • RyeGuyRyeGuy Posts: 215
    its all about rebellion and wanting to do everything yourself with no help from others.

    "I'll take the varmits path"
    "you can buy but can't put on my clothes"
    "rather starve then eat your bread"
    "Makes much more sense to live in the present tense." Ed Ved

    "No one cares about climbing stairs, Nothing at the top no more." Chris Cornell
  • RockMan wrote:
    its all about rebellion and wanting to do everything yourself with no help from others.

    "I'll take the varmits path"
    "you can buy but can't put on my clothes"
    "rather starve then eat your bread"

    I know what the song's meaning is, I just can't figure out why it's called Corduroy?
    one foot in the door
    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
    -The Replacements-
  • cutback wrote:
    I assumed the song is about fame. Corduroy was the jacket that Ed wore and was mass produced.

    That makes sense, that's sort of what I thought but thanks for reconfirming it for me. I think at one time some company actually had a model of shorts called "The Vedder".
    one foot in the door
    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
    -The Replacements-
  • RyeGuyRyeGuy Posts: 215
    I know what the song's meaning is, I just can't figure out why it's called Corduroy?


    my bad i didn't fully read your question.

    Curdoroy could be a reference to a band from london that was popular in the early 90's
    "Makes much more sense to live in the present tense." Ed Ved

    "No one cares about climbing stairs, Nothing at the top no more." Chris Cornell
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    One of their greatest songs in my opinion but the title of this song has somewhat baffled me. What's your interpretation? Why is the the song titled this and what is the meaning?

    read this somewhere, eddie used to wear a brown corduroy jacket that he got from a thrift store/salvation army, etc. and at the height of the commercialization of the whole "grunge" era, copies of the jacket were being mass produced and sold in department stores.

    hence, "they can buy but can't put on my clothes"
  • RyeGuyRyeGuy Posts: 215
    Dollpartz wrote:
    read this somewhere, eddie used to wear a brown corduroy jacket that he got from a thrift store/salvation army, etc. and at the height of the commercialization of the whole "grunge" era, copies of the jacket were being mass produced and sold in department stores.

    hence, "they can buy but can't put on my clothes"



    That makes sense. Mystery solved.
    "Makes much more sense to live in the present tense." Ed Ved

    "No one cares about climbing stairs, Nothing at the top no more." Chris Cornell
  • PJSEMPREPJSEMPRE Posts: 687
    Eddie explained the meaning of Corduroy during a great interview for The Onion in 2002.
    Here is the part where he talks about this song:

    O: To what degree do you think the tension of that time informed the music you were writing? Vitalogy is often cited as the pinnacle of Pearl Jam's power, and it's filled with songs about that tension.

    EV: I guess that was part of what was on our plate to write about at the time. Are you talking about a song like "Not For You"?

    O: "Corduroy" has always seemed like the most direct one.

    EV: Yeah, that song was based on a remake of the brown corduroy jacket that I wore. I think I got mine for 12 bucks, and it was being sold for like $650. [Laughs.] The ultimate one as far as being co-opted was that there was a guy on TV, predictably patterned, I guess, after the way I was looking those days, with long hair and an Army T-shirt. They put this new character on a soap opera, so there was a guy, more handsome than I, parading around on General Hospital. And the funny thing is, that guy was Ricky Martin. [Laughs.]

    "I guess for all of us, whatever our part in the band is, we're satisfying whatever our standards are these days, which are probably higher and more well-rounded than they were 10 years ago."

    Full interview: http://www.freewebs.com/pearljamstudy/06nov02onioninterview.htm
    Let's say knowledge is a tree, yeah.
    It's growing up just like me.
  • PJSEMPRE wrote:
    Eddie explained the meaning of Corduroy during a great interview for The Onion in 2002.
    Here is the part where he talks about this song:

    O: To what degree do you think the tension of that time informed the music you were writing? Vitalogy is often cited as the pinnacle of Pearl Jam's power, and it's filled with songs about that tension.

    EV: I guess that was part of what was on our plate to write about at the time. Are you talking about a song like "Not For You"?

    O: "Corduroy" has always seemed like the most direct one.

    EV: Yeah, that song was based on a remake of the brown corduroy jacket that I wore. I think I got mine for 12 bucks, and it was being sold for like $650. [Laughs.] The ultimate one as far as being co-opted was that there was a guy on TV, predictably patterned, I guess, after the way I was looking those days, with long hair and an Army T-shirt. They put this new character on a soap opera, so there was a guy, more handsome than I, parading around on General Hospital. And the funny thing is, that guy was Ricky Martin. [Laughs.]

    "I guess for all of us, whatever our part in the band is, we're satisfying whatever our standards are these days, which are probably higher and more well-rounded than they were 10 years ago."

    Full interview: http://www.freewebs.com/pearljamstudy/06nov02onioninterview.htm

    Good stuff. Thanks.
    one foot in the door
    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
    -The Replacements-
  • McShadeMcShade Posts: 156
    I've had the same question about the title also. now it makes sense...!

    thanks! :)
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    I didn't start paying much attention to this song until I heard it over and over again at concerts last year. It's a great concert song. I was trying to find the lyrics to Corduroy on tenclub.net, and then on Synergy, but the final parts may be open to interpretation. In fact . . . is that the point of the song?! Actually, I just read that the images of Eddie's teeth are a reflection of what Eddie was presenting in this song. Not of teeth, but as his health with his teeth, so his view of the world. Kindof creative way to project a feeling. I wished he'd put the lyrics in instead :)

    The song could be about a relationship between 1 or a million people, but what's with forcing the words to fit in a line?

    Example I'll pay it off in blood, let I be wed.

    I think this reflects an almost giving up in lyric writing, like words were just forced to fit, and it reflects an anxiety within the author. It's not smooth, and it stands out, which is what the song is about, eh? There are two main themes within the song; giving up, and fighting back. In fact, talking about giving up, there's the line

    I'm already cut up and half dead...
    I'll end up alone like I began...


    As I was just listening to it I noticed how the first part of the song is in complete opposition to the feeling in Given to Fly. In both songs there are challenges, but there is a cynicism, almost despair in the Corduroy lyrics. Also in Corduroy I'm sensing more and more a lack of time. Time is seen as tangible at this point because so many people grab pieces of the protagonist's stash. It's given a different value akin to food. The grating sounds within the music are like the grating of the hands of a clock, hurry hurry hurry.

    At the same time the protagonist or author challenges those that create the original challenge. The following is one of my favorite lines from the song:
    I take your entrance back

    We could all be silenced throughout a walk along a sidewalk, but within us there may be the fighting spirit of a lion. Even with this line
    I'll take the varmint's path
    I don't sense as much a giving up, as a willingness to go underground; for the protagonist to find his way of doing things even if all those ways are new to him. It's still on his terms. There is strength within the song.

    I sense annoyance, and a challenge to what is considered human. For instance, with the following line:
    you're finally here and I'm a mess
    If we are taught to be on time, and we think that is considerate, doesn't it challenge our perceptions of what is a good human if someone is late without apology? We have to take a step back, and re-evaluate if our safe haven is now just a bunch of bricks anyone could use.

    I feel sorry for the protagonist with the following line:
    I would rather run but I can't walk...
    If walking implies time, then there must be anxiety, somewhere to go or rather somewhere to be away from implied in the line.

    I heard this song a lot when the album first came out. Any song on Vitalogy makes me think of chills, windows without proper insulation, and cafes. I was always in cafes in Seattle, and I guess people in Seattle don't think they get cold because the windows are not insulated, just thin panes. What's interesting is that this song reminds me of that time full of chilled anxiety, and waiting waiting waiting. I had a couple jobs and either I was waiting for one to start, or just getting off one that ended, or waiting for a bus home in the chilled air. I didn't have anyone looking over my shoulder, in fact I didn't have anyone, but the discomfort of that time is mirrored in the memories of listening to this album which is full of discomfort.
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  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    "Fame" and how they dealt with it.
    The jacket represents all that Pearl jam disliked about being famous. People taking away parts of Eds individuality by trying to be just like him, and/or using Pearl Jam (mainly Ed in this one) for their own interests not at all realated to the message or artwork (selling 660 dollar jackets to make some designer rich because Ed wears one). I guess it can be pretty fucked up and hard to deal with as well when you go from being a gas station attendant to the hero and Idol of millions of people overnight. Mindblowing and confusing.
    The song is kinda like saying "fuck you" to everyone who hears it, and loves it.

    The waiting drove me mad...you're finally here and I'm a mess
    I take your entrance back can't let you roam inside my head (all the lyrics and issues associated with it on this album which almost killed the band)
    I don't want to take what you can give...
    I would rather starve than eat your bread...
    I would rather run but I can't walk...
    Guess I'll lie alone just like before...

    I'll take the varmint's path...oh, and I must refuse your test
    Push me and I will resist...this behavior's not unique
    I don't want to hear from those who know...
    They can buy, but can't put on my clothes...
    I don't want to limp for them to walk...
    Never would have known of me before...
    I don't want to be held in your debt...
    I'll pay it off in blood, let I be wed...
    I'm already cut up and half dead...
    I'll end up alone like I began...

    Everything has chains...absolutely nothing's changed
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
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