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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    I'm going to require my family to sing the anthem before we play Monopoly.  Or any other game.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,267
    edited February 2021
    Gern Blansten said:
    I'm going to require my family to sing the anthem before we play Monopoly.  Or any other game.

    about to shit. I think I can make it through. should stay seated though....
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Applaud this move -- I also think they need to kill the pledge of allegiance from schools.  The kids are meant to pledge allegiance to a flag, a country, and to do it "under God" every morning?

    I still fly a flag at my home.  We live in America and all that.
    Don't make our kids stand and salute a flag as a symbol of "liberty and justice for all" when it so clearly is not a country which supports this goal and 1,000,000% do not make the kids do it with anything to do with God in it. 

    I do stand and remove my cap when attending an event. 
    I do not, however, think we should be making public events routinely about saluting the flag. 

    To each their own -- no reason to make this a big public thing and to pretend we are all the same.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,335
    Just play America the Beautiful by Ray Charles and call it a day. And make sure you face away from Fme if the sun is out.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,378
    tempo_n_groove said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Applaud this move -- I also think they need to kill the pledge of allegiance from schools.  The kids are meant to pledge allegiance to a flag, a country, and to do it "under God" every morning?

    I still fly a flag at my home.  We live in America and all that.
    Don't make our kids stand and salute a flag as a symbol of "liberty and justice for all" when it so clearly is not a country which supports this goal and 1,000,000% do not make the kids do it with anything to do with God in it. 

    I do stand and remove my cap when attending an event. 
    I do not, however, think we should be making public events routinely about saluting the flag. 

    To each their own -- no reason to make this a big public thing and to pretend we are all the same.
    You should throw out all your money too  =)

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,482
    edited February 2021
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Well, in the first place it's such a horrid song.  It's hard as hell to sing well and even then it just sounds lame. 

    It's been suggested that “Lift Every Voice and Sing” AKA the “Black National Anthem” would make a better anthem.  If we have to have an anthem at all, it seems like a good choice to me.  That, or "Rocking in the Free World."



    Or you could have a national anthem that is all inclusive but one that recognizes 1st people’s as the true owners of your country and mine...

    our goddamn awful ugly flags need to be tossed with the national anthems...

    A Native American National anthem- that makes sense!
    At the risk of upsetting a lot of people, I'll say that doesn't make sense to me. People act like we're the only country to ever take over land. Yes, the way the natives were treated was horrible. Yes we should continue to improve education and life on reservations. But taking away our national anthem doesn't do any of that. And paints an image that we are this evil land when we are no different than anyone else.  There are thousands of years of history of conquering and enslaving the defeated people throughout the world. I'm not sure a single country exist today where the land wasn't previously occupied and taken over and the people killed or treated as slaves. America is not alone in this. So does everyone have to play all the national anthems of all the people they conquered before them, or just us?

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  • Out of My Mind and TimeOut of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333
    Hmm. And the NBA came in and said they have to play it. 

    "With NBA teams now in the process of welcoming back fans into their arenas, all teams will play the national anthem in keeping with longstanding league policy," Bass said.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Hmm. And the NBA came in and said they have to play it. 

    "With NBA teams now in the process of welcoming back fans into their arenas, all teams will play the national anthem in keeping with longstanding league policy," Bass said.
    Well that settles that.  There's only one NBA owner I can think of that would push back on that.  Oh....crap.

    I support Cuban's idea but it would probably have been wise to run it by the league.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I'll pass on the sports games AND the National Anthem 😎
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    edited February 2021
    Nothing says freedom of speech like forced patriotism. 

    With that being said, to paraphrase Bill Barr talking about Kaepernick in one of his standup specials - if you go up against the flag or the national anthem, you're going to lose 100% of the time, it doesn't matter how righteous your cause is. 

    EDIT - Bill Burr.... I haven't seen William Barr's standup yet. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    rgambs said:
    I'll pass on the sports games AND the National Anthem 😎
    ehh, go plant some kale...
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,566
    and how do you guys feel about McCready adding it to Yellow Ledbetter? Is that ok or is that needless as well?

    Personally I  can go either way on it at sporting events. If it isn't played it won't make a difference to me. If it is I will stand and respect it.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    pjhawks said:
    and how do you guys feel about McCready adding it to Yellow Ledbetter? Is that ok or is that needless as well?

    Personally I  can go either way on it at sporting events. If it isn't played it won't make a difference to me. If it is I will stand and respect it.
    How about him playing it before sporting events?  He does it at the end of YLB for Hendrix.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    pjhawks said:
    and how do you guys feel about McCready adding it to Yellow Ledbetter? Is that ok or is that needless as well?

    Personally I  can go either way on it at sporting events. If it isn't played it won't make a difference to me. If it is I will stand and respect it.
    I love McCready ending the night w/ YLB --> Anthem. I've seen it a handful of times, and it's my preferred way to see PJ close a show. 

    I'm with you on the last sentiment. I could take it or leave it, and when it's played I stand & remove my hat.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,613
    As a teacher I wish they would change the law about the pledge, we literally say it every single morning; it is so weird to me.  Maybe say it on Monday morning to start the week but every day is overkill to me.   I could go either way with the National Anthem at sporting events but I do wish they would drop God Bless America at Yanks games (not sure if all baseball teams play it). 
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,566
    mcgruff10 said:
    As a teacher I wish they would change the law about the pledge, we literally say it every single morning; it is so weird to me.  Maybe say it on Monday morning to start the week but every day is overkill to me.   I could go either way with the National Anthem at sporting events but I do wish they would drop God Bless America at Yanks games (not sure if all baseball teams play it). 
    you still do the pledge of allegiance?  that's pretty crazy to me. surprised that is still ongoing. even as a kid I found that a little weird to do.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pjhawks said:
    and how do you guys feel about McCready adding it to Yellow Ledbetter? Is that ok or is that needless as well?

    Personally I  can go either way on it at sporting events. If it isn't played it won't make a difference to me. If it is I will stand and respect it.
    How about him playing it before sporting events?  He does it at the end of YLB for Hendrix.
    I believe he’s done it before several Seattle MLB games as well.

    I can’t recall where, but I remember as a kid seeing my dad rise for the anthem, and thus doing it too. It (and the flag) meant much to him, given his WWII battles - among other things.

     Merlin, your comment about forced patriotism is spot-on. 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    edited February 2021
    mcgruff10 said:
    As a teacher I wish they would change the law about the pledge, we literally say it every single morning; it is so weird to me.  Maybe say it on Monday morning to start the week but every day is overkill to me.   I could go either way with the National Anthem at sporting events but I do wish they would drop God Bless America at Yanks games (not sure if all baseball teams play it). 
    I think most teams do God Bless America on Sundays.
    It's really, really difficult to stop doing something that's "patriotic" because it's always viewed as "so, you don't like America, anymore?"
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,613
    pjhawks said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    As a teacher I wish they would change the law about the pledge, we literally say it every single morning; it is so weird to me.  Maybe say it on Monday morning to start the week but every day is overkill to me.   I could go either way with the National Anthem at sporting events but I do wish they would drop God Bless America at Yanks games (not sure if all baseball teams play it). 
    you still do the pledge of allegiance?  that's pretty crazy to me. surprised that is still ongoing. even as a kid I found that a little weird to do.
    Yup every single day.  Maybe it s a New Jersey law? It s very robotic and cultish to me.  
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,856
    pjhawks said:
    and how do you guys feel about McCready adding it to Yellow Ledbetter? Is that ok or is that needless as well?

    Personally I  can go either way on it at sporting events. If it isn't played it won't make a difference to me. If it is I will stand and respect it.

    Yeah I really don't care either way.  When you think about it, it is pretty strange that it is played prior to every sporting event here.  But man it would be weird to go to a Blackhawks game at the UC and not hear the crowd go insane while the anthem is played.

    I just wish all the "patriots" who get all up in arms about the anthem stuff and associate it with disrespecting the military would have that same type of vitriol for the way our veterans are actually treated in this country.  Something that actually fucking matters and that we should be all up in arms over.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    I just wish all the "patriots" who get all up in arms about the anthem stuff and associate it with disrespecting the military would have that same type of vitriol for the way our veterans are actually treated in this country.  Something that actually fucking matters and that we should be all up in arms over.
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  • Out of My Mind and TimeOut of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333
    Yep. Nothing beats James Cornelison at Hawks games. Miss the UC. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. Nothing beats James Cornelison at Hawks games. Miss the UC. 
    He sings at a good tempo...we get him at Fuel games at least once a year
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,952
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. Nothing beats James Cornelison at Hawks games. Miss the UC. 
    Or Wayne Messmer at Wrigley.  It would be bizarre if they stopped playing it at Cubs games. 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,917
    Always felt America The Beautiful would’ve been a better national anthem. Just a better song. And it’s actually about the land and not just the flag like the star spangled banner is. They actually open WrestleMania with that every year. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i don't see the point of playing the national fucking anthem at a domestic sporting event. kind of stupid in my opinion.

    during a medal ceremony at the olympics? sure. but before a high school baseball game? nah.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    lol

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    Merkin Baller said:
    lol

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    tempo_n_groove said:
    rgambs said:
    I'll pass on the sports games AND the National Anthem 😎
    ehh, go plant some kale...
    Lol....
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i don't see the point of playing the national fucking anthem at a domestic sporting event. kind of stupid in my opinion.

    during a medal ceremony at the olympics? sure. but before a high school baseball game? nah.
    What’s even dumber is the NHL and playing the national anthem....nhl rosters are made up of players from many different countries...
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