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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    Merkin Baller said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I'd argue it's been the Republicans' logical evolution in their approach to basically everything over the last ~50 years..
    I should have said 40... many point to Reagan as being the turning point. 

    I'm no political expert, feel free to correct. 
    Yeah, I'm on a big Roger Ailes kick reading 'Loudest Voice in the Room', so I'm not saying you're wrong 'cause you're not. But Ailes and Nixon really stick out for me. Nixon was so fucking craven and I don't think he gets over the hump without Ailes.
    I need to read a lot more. 
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,143
    Does anyone else have nubs where fingernails once were? Holy cow, Georgia, way to go, win or loss!
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    Up by 17k with approx 17k in outstanding absentee military ballots which have until Friday to arrive
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,017
    Whoa!  Just woke up.  I'm seeing several of you here celebrating both wins for Dems in GA.  Great news that Warnock has won but I'm reading that the other election- Ossoff vs Perdue- is too close to call.  Celebrating too soon maybe?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    brianlux said:
    Whoa!  Just woke up.  I'm seeing several of you here celebrating both wins for Dems in GA.  Great news that Warnock has won but I'm reading that the other election- Ossoff vs Perdue- is too close to call.  Celebrating too soon maybe?
    ossoffs lead has grown overnight. slowly and not by much but grown none the less.

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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Whoa!  Just woke up.  I'm seeing several of you here celebrating both wins for Dems in GA.  Great news that Warnock has won but I'm reading that the other election- Ossoff vs Perdue- is too close to call.  Celebrating too soon maybe?
    ossoffs lead has grown overnight. slowly and not by much but grown none the less.

    Yeah, it's fucking over. So goddamn happy. 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,137
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I'd argue it's been the Republicans' logical evolution in their approach to basically everything over the last ~50 years..
    I should have said 40... many point to Reagan as being the turning point. 

    I'm no political expert, feel free to correct. 
    Yeah, I'm on a big Roger Ailes kick reading 'Loudest Voice in the Room', so I'm not saying you're wrong 'cause you're not. But Ailes and Nixon really stick out for me. Nixon was so fucking craven and I don't think he gets over the hump without Ailes.
    I need to read a lot more. 
    It's an awesome fucking book. It's thick - half the book is citations, really well researched. I had to put it down just because how big it is, but my wife wanted to watch a movie so we gave Bombshell a whirl. She liked it, and it wasn't that bad, and it made me pick up the book again.
    Thick? No, thank you!

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    brianlux said:
    Whoa!  Just woke up.  I'm seeing several of you here celebrating both wins for Dems in GA.  Great news that Warnock has won but I'm reading that the other election- Ossoff vs Perdue- is too close to call.  Celebrating too soon maybe?
    no....he's got it
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    Gern Blansten said:
    brianlux said:
    Whoa!  Just woke up.  I'm seeing several of you here celebrating both wins for Dems in GA.  Great news that Warnock has won but I'm reading that the other election- Ossoff vs Perdue- is too close to call.  Celebrating too soon maybe?
    no....he's got it
    Should end up winning by more than Biden's margin. Those 2022 elections are going to be tough to win if the GOP actually has someone less corrupt than Perdue and Loeffler to run against them. Hopefully what they do the next 2 years earns them votes, but like someone else mentioned, it seems people are entrenched as either republican or democrat with very little left in the middle; however, those middles may be the reason for the narrow wins. Basically they need to analyze the shit out of that 20,000 - 40,000 voter population and figure out how to keep them or flip them if they went the other way.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,017
    I've seen too many weird things happen in elections over the years.  I'm with y'all, but I'll celebrate when it's called.  Should be later this morning.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,762
    But will Perdue concede? Ever?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    brianlux said:
    Whoa!  Just woke up.  I'm seeing several of you here celebrating both wins for Dems in GA.  Great news that Warnock has won but I'm reading that the other election- Ossoff vs Perdue- is too close to call.  Celebrating too soon maybe?
    no....he's got it
    Should end up winning by more than Biden's margin. Those 2022 elections are going to be tough to win if the GOP actually has someone less corrupt than Perdue and Loeffler to run against them. Hopefully what they do the next 2 years earns them votes, but like someone else mentioned, it seems people are entrenched as either republican or democrat with very little left in the middle; however, those middles may be the reason for the narrow wins. Basically they need to analyze the shit out of that 20,000 - 40,000 voter population and figure out how to keep them or flip them if they went the other way.
    CNN or MSNBC had the voter registration demographics for Georgia on the screen last night by age bracket, race and registered party affiliations. Independent or non-affiliated was the largest of the dem, repub, Indy. Age wise, two categories that encompassed 24-56, I think. That’s the focus for the next two years. And Wornock and Ossoff are seated for 6 years, I think?
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    Warnock's race was a special since the shithead lady stepped in for someone else. He will have to run in another 2 years.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Warnock's race was a special since the shithead lady stepped in for someone else. He will have to run in another 2 years.
    Ahhhhhhhh, so he’s got work to do and let’s hope chuck and Nancy do the right things and help him out.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    Merkin Baller said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I'd argue it's been the Republicans' logical evolution in their approach to basically everything over the last ~50 years..
    I should have said 40... many point to Reagan as being the turning point. 

    I'm no political expert, feel free to correct. 
    I've always saw the 94 congress as the turning point. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    Arizona - and away....we go
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I'd argue it's been the Republicans' logical evolution in their approach to basically everything over the last ~50 years..
    I should have said 40... many point to Reagan as being the turning point. 

    I'm no political expert, feel free to correct. 
    I've always saw the 94 congress as the turning point. 

    Nixon, southern strategy. tge turning began there. Newt shut the door on governance and it became exclusively about powrt and upward wealth distribution
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495
    mrussel1 said:
    Arizona - and away....we go
    What happens next?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,017
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Arizona - and away....we go
    What happens next?

    What's up with AZ?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Arizona - and away....we go
    What happens next?

    bunch of talk. a vote. electors accepted. rinse and repeat.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I'd argue it's been the Republicans' logical evolution in their approach to basically everything over the last ~50 years..
    I should have said 40... many point to Reagan as being the turning point. 

    I'm no political expert, feel free to correct. 
    I've always saw the 94 congress as the turning point. 

    Nixon, southern strategy. tge turning began there. Newt shut the door on governance and it became exclusively about powrt and upward wealth distribution
    The southern strategy was to convert the solid south to the GOP.  Using race as a wedge wasn't new.  Nor was the South voting as a block.  In 94, the politics of personal destruction and eliminating compromise took root. I blame Newt and Rush.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Arizona - and away....we go
    What happens next?
    This is going to take forever if 5 states are objected. 
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    Bentleyspop said:
    But will Perdue concede? Ever?
    No, and I bet the fight it every way they possibly can, if for no other reason than to delay/reduce the time that the Senate can be filled.  Much like they did with Franken in 2008.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    edited January 2021
    Fucking Loeffler is objecting on behalf of Georgia. This is all just too fucking perfect.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    edited January 2021
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I'd argue it's been the Republicans' logical evolution in their approach to basically everything over the last ~50 years..
    I should have said 40... many point to Reagan as being the turning point. 

    I'm no political expert, feel free to correct. 
    I've always saw the 94 congress as the turning point. 

    Nixon, southern strategy. tge turning began there. Newt shut the door on governance and it became exclusively about powrt and upward wealth distribution
    The southern strategy was to convert the solid south to the GOP.  Using race as a wedge wasn't new.  Nor was the South voting as a block.  In 94, the politics of personal destruction and eliminating compromise took root. I blame Newt and Rush.

    without it, does newt eventually get sent to congress? as I said, the turn BEGAN there. Newt shut the door.
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Arizona - and away....we go
    What happens next?
    This is going to take forever if 5 states are objected. 
    Yep, bunch of grandstanding knowing it will go nowhere.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Arizona - and away....we go
    What happens next?
    This is going to take forever if 5 states are objected. 
    Two hours to debate each one.  Christ
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Arizona - and away....we go
    What happens next?

    What's up with AZ?
    They have an objection to the certification of electors by a rep and a senator so they are required to recess and discuss before returning. All show.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,965
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Arizona - and away....we go
    What happens next?
    This is going to take forever if 5 states are objected. 
    Two hours to debate each one.  Christ
    do they debate them all separately? i thought they took all objections and debated them as a whole. 
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    edited January 2021
    tbergs said:
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Arizona - and away....we go
    What happens next?

    What's up with AZ?
    They have an objection to the certification of electors by a rep and a senator so they are required to recess and discuss before returning. All show.
    And the senator isn't even from fucking Arizona (Cruz). 
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